I hate anti-vaxxers

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How can anyone in this day and age be an anti-vaxxer? London and West mids currently suffering from a meassls outbreak. DS is under 1 so cannot yet have vaccine, I know of someone whose 10momth old contracted measels as they were too young for vaccine.
Ridiculous that reckless and tardy parents are putting all our children at risk. Actually terrible.

Do you even know anything about all the work he has funded, or do you just dismiss it all because Moira on Facebook told you he eats babies?

I can tell from the way you’re responding to everyone that you feel you possess a superior intellect to the rest of us, but believe me that isn’t how you’re coming across.

I call bullshit on this.

And why would I care about how I’m coming across on a random online forum to strangers?

Ultimately, you do you. Have all of the jabs, eat all of the lab grown meat, why not get stung by a few of Bill Gates GMO mosquitoes too? Get behind all his wonderful projects that he most definitely won’t profit from… why not? His funded scientists say it’s safe so you’ll def be fine 👌🏽

Are you 12? Is this how you conduct conversations in your real life too? I’m out. Life is too short.

I wouldn't worry about AnxiousOCDMum, she thinks the best thing to do with smallpox (30 - 90% death rate) is to 'make people comfortable and let their bodies fight it'

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I am so sorry to hear that. It was a very troubling time. You don't know if she would have survived or not. There was reports coming out of people dying from COVID after getting the vaccine. Young healthy people died from it. When you look at the national health service they don't know their patients health or underlying health issues. I remember a fit footballer had a heart attack on the pitch live on Tele. The NHS won't check for any possible underlying issues in any of their patients unless necessary because it would cost to much money. I am not knocking the NHS but they are struggling and they don't have the money.

My mum passed away two years ago she had endometrial cancer. I had a smear test done the nurse told me I shouldn't get it I don't need to worry. How does she know that when they missed it in my mother. She had regular smear tests every 3 years and they missed it.

You are really coming across as completely ridiculous now. What a waste of your life

I am sorry for your loss, but smear tests don’t look for endometrial cancer.

Except when their choices contribute to an outbreak of measles. If you don’t want to be vaccinated, go and live on a remote island.

A child has died of measles at Alder Hey: Child in Liverpool dies after contracting measles – report | The Independent

How terrible! and so avoidable. Honestly fuck anti vaxxers.

At least schools should mandate vaccination. It's done all over the world. I know my cousins in India have to provide a vaccination record for their school going children. Spread is worst there.
Anti-vaxxers can home educate.

Your poor children.

I think people with this thought process a
have no right to live in a civilised society to be frank.

tough on their kids, what sort of education will they get from people who don’t/cant’/wont’t understand real research and statistics?
Perhaps unvaccinated kids - whether that’s through the obduracy of their parents or medical necessity - should be provided with online schooling as soon as an outbreak starts?

Vaccines on the whole prevent people being sick. When will the penny drop?
Im not going to respond to you again because you clearly have made up your mind to believe grifters instead of scientists and to paint the scientists as grifters.

When my DD went to work in Camp America , vaccines were mandatory and we had a nightmare proving she had chicken pox trying to get a titre test on a bank holiday weekend with less than a week to get results! I hadnt taken her to the gp as her brother had it the 2 weeks before, she even had a chicken pox scar on her face but that wasnt proof enough.

Sadly on top of the 3 children in Texas who recently died of measles a little girl has died in Alder Hey hospital.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8j1k3k44e2o#:~:text=Child%20dies%20at%20Alder%20Hey%20as%20measles%20cases%20surge&text=their%20vaccination%20status.-,It%20is%20thought%2017%20children%20have%20been%20treated%20at%20Alder,died%20aged%2010%20in%202023.

This entirely preventable death is on the heads of everybody who spreads anti vax rubbish and encourages other parents to believe the nonsense they have read online. Children should not be dying of measles in 2025.

I was extremely annoyed when I tried to get the chicken pox vaccine for my two in the Netherlands, and it was unavailable. I was given the runaround for weeks until in the end it was clear it wasn't going to get anywhere.

Apparently, so I was told, there was a debate in the govt and the view was that the cost of the vaccine nationwide would outweigh the cost of the small number of children who die of it. Talk about wrong scale of values, in a country that is very rich and can actually afford the vaccines in the first place.

Can I ask a question about childhood vaccines? I don't know when the MMR was first introduced but I was born in 1975. I had rubella when was a kid but I remember having the rubella injection when I was a teenager so does that mean I would have had the measles and mumps vaccinations separately?

I remember my Mum telling me I'd had everything except the whooping cough vaccine as there was a scare around it at the time but I'm not sure what that was back then!

Edited to add I know no one can tell me for certain, I'm just wondering how it worked.

The Measles vaccine was bought in 1968 catch up programme for those that hadnt had measles and at 12 months for babies. MMr was bought in 1988. I dont think mumps vaccine was ever routinely given before mmr.

Forgot to say Rubella was given to girls at secondary school, i was 13 or 14 when i was supposed to have it but i caught Rubella from my DM a month or so before.

tough on their kids, what sort of education will they get from people who don’t/cant’/wont’t understand real research and statistics?

I suspect that the vast majority of anti-vaxers will find that their commitment wavers once their children's unvaccinated state actually affects them. IE once they find that they cannot access free daytime childcare unless their children are immunised against the most dangerous infectious diseases.

For all people who are saying its no one else's business if they immunise their kids, it really is. Herd immunity is SO important. Especially for those who legitimately cannot have the vaccine or are too young.

Prior to the recent Alder Hey death, rhe last death from measles came from complications from when a child caught it when too young to be vaccinated. Her parents are strong advocates for getting vaccinated as herd immunity would have likely prevented her getting it.

When you chose not vaccinate your kids, its not just your own kids health you are risking.

I remember a fit footballer had a heart attack on the pitch live on Tele. The NHS won't check for any possible underlying issues in any of their patients unless necessary because it would cost to much money. I am not knocking the NHS but they are struggling and they don't have the money.

Sorry but no you didn't.

There have been cases of professional footballers having a sudden cardiac arrest.

This is normally an undiagnosed cardiomyopathy

There is a campaign to have young athletes screened with echocardiogram. That is not the NHS's job. Football clubs make enough profits to pay for the screening.

Depends.
A friend died in his sleep aged 20 back in the 80s. It was found that he had a genetic heart defect, they tested his sister for the same defect straight away. He had been perfectly healthy all of his life.

also back in the 70s a young lad walked off the pitch at my secondary school and died from a heart attack.