To be happy that Jeremy Corbyn and Zarah Sultana are founding a new party.

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We need someone with backbone to put forward an alternative political viewpoint.

Very much this.

An alternative on the left, and proper left, is a good thing to hold Labour to account and stop then veering ever more to ‘Tory Lite-ish’. Corbyn isn’t it though.

@KimberleyClark lack of back bone led to brexit?
Corybn and his crew couldn't vote for remain because they were steadfast against imported labour which undermined the actual working class here in the UK.
I don't like corybn but at least they did seem to think about the old base of voters.

Yeah, the typical idiots and antisemites. Love a bit of racism, misogyny and terrorist oppression while claiming the moral high ground.

Thank you. Palestine was in their opening statement. I can't see how you can have a UK political party whose main focus is apparently on one aspect of foreign policy.

He'd been anti EU all his life, then when he was the Labour leader, all of a sudden pro Remain!

He was a puppet of pro EU Momentum. They put him there then he had to at least pretend to agree with them on the most major political decision of the post war era. So he decided to go on holiday. Momentum are now also fighting like rats in a sack.

Good points. I did laugh at his massive U turn on the EU, though!

What a line up. Would make a great comedy sketch.

As someone whose family fled to the UK for safety and freedom, it is very scary.

I hold corbyn responsible for brexit.

And i won't vote for a party that makes a country half way around the world its priority.

At thus rate I will be spoiling my vote at the next GE.

How hard is it to have a party that protects the most vulnerable in our society and fixes our housing and NHS problems through traditional left policies, while refusing identity politics and taking a tough stand on immigration?

Can’t be any worse than consocialists, Labour or Magic grandpa’s new party.

What racist about that?

Are you one of those that tries to shut people up by shouting racism at everything.

I am incredibly happy that there might be another Left wing party, but I worry they'll just get completely ignored and deplatformed like the Greens whilst that grifter Farage enjoys daily headlines as his billionaire backers make sure his propaganda machine is well oiled and funded.

Having said that mumsnet is probably not the place to ask (as a cross section of society) if you ever ask on here how much someone earns its always £200k, so I suspect the sort of people that are quite happy with the status quo parties. 😅

I don't give a shit if the Labour vote is split, they are literally Tories now. We need something else.

"Something else" isn't an elderly Brexiter.

Where are the millennial politicians for a new left?

The point is that it will be the final nail in Labour’s coffin. They have literally no chance of winning the next GE if their vote is in anyway split.

A splinter party pretty much guarantees they can’t win most seats. It also gives Reform and Conservative far more room for manoeuvre as clearly if Reform didn’t win an outright majority they would join Conservatives in a coalition.

Labour are in a strange position whereby they have a huge majority of seats based on the support of less than 20% of the electorate. That means the that even a modest drop in support is pretty much terminal for them. If they went from 20% down to say 16% they’d be wiped off the board.

Of course all this is a moot point if there is any sort of right of centre merger before the GE as the resulting party would win easily.

I suspect Reform and Conservative will wait until much nearer the date to decide what to do. If Reform are still clearly leading the polls they may refuse any sort of merger in the knowledge that a Reform led coalition would be the probable outcome. If the Reform/Conservative support is closer then a deal may be struck to ensure Labour are removed.

Whatever happens it is hard to see how Labour could possibly be in government after 2029.

Labour are toast anyway at the next GE. There could be a massive swing from Labour to Corbyn's party. The historical Tory voters won't be voting against Sunak either, so as long as the Tories have an electable leader at that time, their core voters could be back in the fold - if not, then yes Reform will keep their votes! I'd also expect quite a few Labour MP's jumping ship if Corbyn's party takes off. So it could be quite a two horse race between Corbyn and Reform ending up with some kind of coalition. You have to remember it's not just tory voters who swapped to Reform. A lot of "workers" who'd typically vote Labour are fed up as well and are primed and ready to vote Reform or Corbyn!

Islam isn't a race, it's an ideology.

There is already another left wing party. The party that Corbyn and his group of wannabe revolutionists should have represented the Socialist Labour Party

there policies are in line with Corbyn’s but of course he didn’t represent them because he never would have got a seat in parliament

he is an activist nothing more than that. And was a gift to the Tories, a gift to pro leavers (we all know his is anti EU) and his leadership was a great help for the Tories in 2019

Starmer had done a great job at quashing the far left of the party this is the best news he has had this week

Not sure about the best news for him. It’ll take some voters from Labour.

It would great to finally have one political party that supports Palestine. The PM is Islamophobic.

Yeah why doesn't Corbyn just hook up with the communist party?

But will also gain him some new voters who thought there were too many extreme left wingers in the Labour party.

Though as things stand at the moment, we don’t know how many Labour MPs actually will move to this party.

It could be an extremely small party, we’ll see.

to rid Labour of their left wing fraction is good need for any serious Labour leader

what loose a few hundred thousand votes at most maybe two seats at best

It won’t happen though which is a shame