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To be happy that Jeremy Corbyn and Zarah Sultana are founding a new party.

319 replies

LancashireButterPie · 03/07/2025 21:30

We need someone with backbone to put forward an alternative political viewpoint.

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unsurewhattodoaboutit · 04/07/2025 01:35

Nope Corbyn apparently was a nightmare when he was leader. It was carnage. Now Reform have a way in. Farage will be rubbing his sweaty little palms together today.

LastTrainsEast · 04/07/2025 01:43

I think he should get a few more MPs as it won't be much fun with just him and Sultana.

Still they can go tours of the middle east together visiting their constituents and making new friends.

Valeriekat · 04/07/2025 01:51

SayLaveee · 03/07/2025 21:58

If they're standing for Palestine, TWAW and more immigration then im still a politically homeless left wing voter

British Communist Party?

Valeriekat · 04/07/2025 01:54

User37482 · 03/07/2025 23:35

Yeah love it the pro Iranian regime (blinding and whipping women who take their hijabs off) pro Russia (well yeah just that small biological attack on Uk soil) hezbollah (state within a state, undermining Lebanese democracy for decades, they’ve only just started sorting the banking and collecting weapons out now hezbollah have had their balls blown off) hamas (no elections for 17 years, enough said) pro destruction of UK military assets.

For people who get to vote or demonstrate without genuine risk, his supporters are uniquely fond of terrorists, oppressors and dictators.

Brilliant!

Jennps · 04/07/2025 01:55

Zahra Sultana grates on the public and Magic grandpa has zero credibility. In one sense, Two Tier will be glad to rid of them. In another sense they will have short lived period of splitting the Labour vote.

It just keeps getting better for Reform. This is another gift to them.

Zellycat · 04/07/2025 02:18

Redshoeblueshoe · 03/07/2025 21:37

Well splitting the Labour vote leaves the door wide open for Reform.
Is that what you actually want ?

Ole Jerry thinking it splits votes and forces Labour .+ Far Labour coalition and it’s his only chance to get back in any leadership position.

Labour would “need” his far lefties and he seems PM in sight for him.

He’s really disgusting person.

SpidersAreShitheads · 04/07/2025 02:32

LancashireButterPie · 03/07/2025 21:54

It breaks my heart to say this but I think Labour have become more right wing than the Tories are.

I am totally horrified at the cuts to disability payments for the most vulnerable people. I work in public services and see things getting worse not better.

I think that a more left wing presence is a good thing, to challenge, and hold Starmer accountable .

Completely fed up with being led by billionaires.

I'm no fan of what Labour is doing, but to say they're more right-wing than the Tories is a bit of a stretch.

Some things are getting worse because they're trying to fix the utter mess the Tories left, but not necessarily going about it the right way. But on the whole they are TRYING to fix things, but just making some bad decisions. The Tories made zero attempt to fix things, just propped up their rich pals. If I am being kind, at least Labour has an appetite to make things better which the Tories never truly did. That's not to say I'm not frustrated with Labour and their hamfisted attempts at sorting things out.

The proposed cuts to disability benefits by Labour were terrible. Cruel and unfair - and we're still not out of the woods with all of that just yet. But did you see what the Conservatives were proposing last year? They'd put forward a green paper where ALL disability benefits would be scrapped and a voucher scheme introduced instead. I don't even know where to start on how dehumanising that would be.....

It's a depressing state of affairs when this Labour party and its policies are the best option, but the Tories and Reform would be infinitely worse for our most vulnerable.

I think part of the problem is that Keir Starmer won by appealing to disenchanted Tory voters, and he's continuing with that. Hence the attacks on "benefit scroungers" and the comments about immigration - he knows those kinds of speeches and policies do well with those on the middle-right.

Corbyn makes an excellent activist but a terrible leader. His bullish refusal to condemn countries doing terrible things - eg/Russia - would not be helpful in a PM. He enjoys being oppositional for the sake of it. He may well be an excellent MP for his constituents but I don't think he is leader material.

Also, splitting the Labour vote hands an advantage to the Tories and Reform. Splitting the Tory vote helped Labour - Corbyn is just out to sabotage the party that chucked him out. The left desperately needs more unity, not more division.

caringcarer · 04/07/2025 02:42

I'm delighted Labour will split. Corbyn, and Sultana might be joined by Diane Abbot, John McDonnell or Nadia Whittome next. I'm wondering how many might join Corbyn. Maybe even Long Bailey.

SayLaveee · 04/07/2025 05:22

Valeriekat · 04/07/2025 01:51

British Communist Party?

Interesting. I had actually completely forgotten they even existed. Going to research now.

Helpmeplease2025 · 04/07/2025 05:27

Great news, split the Labour vote.,

SayLaveee · 04/07/2025 05:33

Valeriekat · 04/07/2025 01:51

British Communist Party?

Well, I like that their policy pledges to "protect women's sex-based rights". I don't like that the very first item on their policy list is "Palestine".

FeistyCat · 04/07/2025 05:35

YABU Corbyn is a vile racist and Sultana is anti-womens rights. They are both absolute garbage people. I would vote for them very last before any other group. They're scum. If they are the answer, the question is beyond deplorable.

desiderata328 · 04/07/2025 06:09

VERY happy about this. For the first time in a long while, I feel hope ❤️

Ohthatsabitshit · 04/07/2025 06:10

It’s weird to be suggesting he has no support and simultaneously that he will split the vote. I’m watching with interest. Maybe he WILL take a large minority of Labour votes and then form a coalition with the present government to beat reform?

SayLaveee · 04/07/2025 06:28

They will be the go to party for comfortable middle class champagne socialists

Twiglets1 · 04/07/2025 06:37

It might be good for Labour for the rubbish to take itself out.

Slightyamusedandsilly · 04/07/2025 06:39

I'm also pleased. I voted and will continue to vote Labour. But I'm not a Labour supporter now. They're too middle of the road. I was actively political while Corbyn was Labour leader. Finally, someone who shared my politics leading the party.

InterestedDad37 · 04/07/2025 06:40

I'm Labour through and through, but don't like where they're at now. I admire and support Cornyn for his principles, and will cheer on this venture - it's a necessary counterpoint. But it won't last.

BurntBroccoli · 04/07/2025 06:42

Redshoeblueshoe · 03/07/2025 21:37

Well splitting the Labour vote leaves the door wide open for Reform.
Is that what you actually want ?

I’m afraid this will happen 😞
The media will go guns out for a left leaning party.

CottageGoblin · 04/07/2025 06:42

Not sure I would trust Magic Grandpa with a new party.

bigvig · 04/07/2025 06:46

I'm glad. This government is not a Labour government. There is no democracy if there is no alternative. This threat might make Starmer start listening to his party.

mids2019 · 04/07/2025 06:49

Look at the other memebers . This may be the beginning of a sectarian party composed mainly of Muslim members who want Gaza front and foremost in people's minds (and probably would love to see Israel not exist)

creakingwheels · 04/07/2025 06:52

BreadInCaptivity · 03/07/2025 21:59

Neither of them were/are effective politicians. They are activists who cling to rhetoric without understanding the context required to manage a village economy and its relations with its neighbouring town never mind a country and global state relationships.

This

ArtTheClown · 04/07/2025 06:53

I'm just pleased that it will hopefully split what remains of the Labour vote.

Boomer55 · 04/07/2025 06:55

It’s their right to start a party if they want to. I woikfnt vote for them, but each to their own. It’s estimated they might get 10% vote share, but by splitting the Labour vote, they will let Reform in by the back door. 🙄