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Original poster

to think that whoever let my dog out last night/early this morning is v cruel and evil person who has obv never had pets or children?

419 replies

micci25 · 25/05/2008 09:44

was laying bed when i heard my dog barking at the front of the house. when she should be safely locked up in the back yard. went to look out the back window and the back gate was wide open dog no where to be seen!

the back gate is usually locked, i dont know why it wasnt last night but i cant even remember who opened it last so cant blame anyone for that.

cue me getting up immediatley and searching streets for dog. luckily she had come back of her own accord and was waiting at the back gate while i was looking round the front for her !

dp thinks that this is forgivable as who ever let her out probably did because they were sick of her barking. i think that if this is the casae they should have to come to me to complain and not just let my family out!

the dog does bark but only when she hears noises. although this noise can be just a car and usually is. on a weekend her barking is worse because she can hear people coming home in taxis and drunks walking past.

but if she is barking for more than a couple of minutes at a time i will go and see what she is barking at which stops her.

we live oppposite a bus depo and two very busy roads so there is every chance that the dog could have been run over, she is a terrier so it is her nature to hunt and kill, she could very easily have gotten hold of some ones pet bunny, guniea pig, chickens, kitten (she is scared of cats i have two and the bully her but could easily kill a kitten), for all who ever let out knows she could be a biting dog and could have got hold of a child, also who ever did do it must live in my street as we have alley gates so they would also know that i have a four year old dd who would be gutted if her dog was hurt.

am absolutely livid that some one would be so inconsiderate dp still seems to think this acceptable (but admits it is wrong he is just not annoyed by it) as the dog could have woke them up

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AitchTwoCiao · 25/05/2008 21:41

what-evvur... [dubious]

Alambil · 25/05/2008 21:47

Do you have freeview Micci?

DirtySexyMummy · 25/05/2008 21:50

Why do you need to 'establish from the neighbours'? Don't you know your own dog? The neighbours may be playing it down out of politeness. Surely if your own DP thinks there is a problem, then you have to admit there is.

And you admitted that the dog barks almost constantly during the day. Please have consideration for the neighbour who works nights. He is trying to sleep whislt your dog is constantly (by your own admission) barking.

You can't remove all the things your dog may bark at, you might as well lock it in a cupboard then. You need to train him, and make him less scared.

Surely its not nice for you and your children to have to sit in a room with the curtains shut all day either?

madamez · 25/05/2008 21:54

Shoot the fucking thing and have it stuffed. ANd fitted with wheels so you can drag it round the house after you.

Original poster
micci25 · 25/05/2008 21:54

i have sky lf

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Yurtgirl · 25/05/2008 21:59

Mici - It really doesnt matter whether your dog barks a lot each night or once

If a dog barks once each night and I as a result wake up each night I therrefore dislike that dog and its owner tbh

If it barks a lot I dislike the dog and its owner even more

Either way I feel annoyed and resentful of the dog and its owner

Get it sorted now

FWIW if I lived next door to you - I would probably have reported you to the RSPCA by now

LobstersLass · 25/05/2008 22:02

Madamez, you're my hero!

fishie · 25/05/2008 22:04

crikey. micci no wonder it pisses all over the place if you mn 24hrs a day.

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micci25 · 25/05/2008 22:07

im not on all day fishie it might seem like it coz i have the pc on while cleaning/playing with kids and will check back every now and then for a few mins i do not sit at the pc all day long.

also it is not all over the place it is by the kitchen door when she cant get out! never anywhere else.

she has been trained to go out but wont hold it if she cant get out

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DirtySexyMummy · 25/05/2008 22:10

YOU have to let her out, you do know that right?

Would you have a child in nappies because it wasn't properly potty trained, or would you do something about it? Make a more concerted effort and get the dog house trained. Its not bloody hard.

And why the hell do you want a carpeted kitchen?

AitchTwoCiao · 25/05/2008 22:13

361 messages, every one bar micci's few saying YABU... is there something we're not understanding? i don't think so.

wobbegong · 25/05/2008 22:23

Madamez- PMSL. Just what we were thinking in the Wobbegong household.

purpleduck · 25/05/2008 22:38

skimmed the thread

  1. Your dog is nervous of cars
  2. You keep it outside where there is a bus depot nearby
  3. You haven't bothered to train it, so it gets "punished" even more by being put outside.

Ok, My dog id a terrier type, and he relies on eye contact/ tail wagging to go out. He has only messed in the house on the occasional night. IT GETS BETTER

I am so annoyed that you even have a dog. Poor thing. Let someone else have him - someone who will actually care for this dog properly. Seriously. I think you should think of the dog FOR ONCE and give him up.

and
for the poor dog

Psychomum5 · 25/05/2008 23:33

oh FGS.....keep the dog in and clean up in the morning.

sorry for being harsh (altho maybe not as some here), but your poor dog sounds really unhappy, and if you were my neighbour, I would be bloody livid living with barking all night bloody long!!!!

I have a neighbour who had a dog about 10 houses away, and they too kept it out all the time.

several of us complained, dog was taken away!!!

sorry, but dogs kept out are (IMHO), sad dogs not loved and not kept as a family pet, more as a family ornament!

Alambil · 26/05/2008 00:31

I think you should look up the Dog Whisperer programme for some tips before the 2 months are up

AitchTwoCiao · 26/05/2008 00:33

i think if you're prepared to let your dog suffer for another two months then you've no business owning one...

CrushWithEyeliner · 26/05/2008 10:03

so when are you planning to take her to the vet for her incontinence micci? Do you realise she could be barking because she is in pain from a urinary infection?

Lovesdogsandcats · 26/05/2008 11:45

Right, have read this whole thread and IMO there are 2 issues here.

1: You keep your FAMILY (not guard) dog outside because she pees.

2; Said dog barks and possibly pisses people off.

If you didn't keep her outside you would not have this problem. I think you are cruel. Yes CRUEL.

You took on ALL aspects of dog owning and that includes dealing with psychological/physical issues. You should take her to the vet as a matter of course. take a urine sample to exclude a urine infection(put a bowl under when she is peeing).

I took on a rescue terrier who used to wee in the house. After a long slow process she has finally stopped doing it in the day but needs to be crated next to my bed at bedtime. She goes in when I go to bed and is let out when I get up. I would never have dreamt of putting her outdoors because of it...why do you do this?

Callisto · 26/05/2008 11:48

Micci- give the dog to the RSPCA. You are not a good or responsible dog owner and you shouldn't have a dog. Terriers are bred to work and a 1/2 hour walk once a day is not enough exercise. Terriers are extemely bright (your dog's iq is undoubtedly higher than your own) and house train easily. If you had any sort of empathy for your dog you would have realised 2 years ago that she has a behavioural/physical problem. You are being very selfish about the whole situation. Start behaving like an adult and rehome your dog with someone who can take care of her properly.

Chequers · 26/05/2008 14:31

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Original poster
micci25 · 26/05/2008 15:05

i have already said i will take her to the vets but she def does not have an infection.

she has been this way ever since i moved here, before this she did have a flap to get through and would let herself out (this maybe why she has not learned how attract attention to the fact she wants to be out).

also she is eating well(as well as she will eat i cannot find any dog food brand that she likes but have advise from my vet on this), has no temp, is acting fine (little quiet yesterday but fine today), and shows no pain or makes no noises when peeing.

and she does not pee all over the house. atm she is not peeing anywhere in the house as the backdoor is open for her, due to weather being warm enough. when she does do it it is always by the back door

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Lovesdogsandcats · 26/05/2008 15:18

OMG Bethoo, just properly noticed your post (2nd post on this thread).

Were you being serious when you said 'have you thought about chaining her up'?

There really are some very cruel and selfish, narrow minded people who lack any form of empathy. You sound like one of them.

FluffyMummy123 · 26/05/2008 15:19

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Saymyname · 26/05/2008 15:19

How do you know she deffo doesn't have an infection?

Lovesdogsandcats · 26/05/2008 15:20

micci why do you keep her outside if she is part of the family? Do you feel you are being kind to her when you do this, or can you see how cruel it is? Why not crate her at night as has been suggested?