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to think that whoever let my dog out last night/early this morning is v cruel and evil person who has obv never had pets or children?

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micci25 · 25/05/2008 09:44

was laying bed when i heard my dog barking at the front of the house. when she should be safely locked up in the back yard. went to look out the back window and the back gate was wide open dog no where to be seen!

the back gate is usually locked, i dont know why it wasnt last night but i cant even remember who opened it last so cant blame anyone for that.

cue me getting up immediatley and searching streets for dog. luckily she had come back of her own accord and was waiting at the back gate while i was looking round the front for her !

dp thinks that this is forgivable as who ever let her out probably did because they were sick of her barking. i think that if this is the casae they should have to come to me to complain and not just let my family out!

the dog does bark but only when she hears noises. although this noise can be just a car and usually is. on a weekend her barking is worse because she can hear people coming home in taxis and drunks walking past.

but if she is barking for more than a couple of minutes at a time i will go and see what she is barking at which stops her.

we live oppposite a bus depo and two very busy roads so there is every chance that the dog could have been run over, she is a terrier so it is her nature to hunt and kill, she could very easily have gotten hold of some ones pet bunny, guniea pig, chickens, kitten (she is scared of cats i have two and the bully her but could easily kill a kitten), for all who ever let out knows she could be a biting dog and could have got hold of a child, also who ever did do it must live in my street as we have alley gates so they would also know that i have a four year old dd who would be gutted if her dog was hurt.

am absolutely livid that some one would be so inconsiderate dp still seems to think this acceptable (but admits it is wrong he is just not annoyed by it) as the dog could have woke them up

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micci25 · 25/05/2008 17:52

i have already been in touch with a trainer who will come to the home and she specialises with nervous dogs and dogs with behavioral issues. she was recomended by our vet.

my dog is on her waiting list which is about two months long.

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hercules1 · 25/05/2008 17:52

She is a nervous aggressive dog. I appreciate you are intending to seek professional help - it really is better to go professional route rather than yourself but I dont get why it's taken 3 years personally.
I wouldnt have a jack russell as they arent known for being good with kids ( I grew up with them too) and I wouldnt let this dog play with your daughter either.

I really think you should have the dog rehomed to people who know what they are doing.

Chequers · 25/05/2008 17:53

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Chequers · 25/05/2008 17:54

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hercules1 · 25/05/2008 17:54

Check your insurance. SOme insurances I think cover behavioural issues.

Jenbot · 25/05/2008 17:55

On another note, I don't think one half hour walk per day is enough.
Although I have only had bigger dogs, so maybe I'm wrong..?

LobstersLass · 25/05/2008 17:58

There's a good link on this page called Constant Barking Can Be Avoided.

It looks like there a lot of good ideas on there for you.

Could the dog be barking to get attention? If it's left to it's own devices most of the time, then when it starts barking it gets a reaction then it could be lonely.
Try praising it when it's quiet and walk out of the room when it starts barking.

LobstersLass · 25/05/2008 18:06

Ok, it's a Jack Russell! Now it all becomes clear!

They need lots of excercise. Half an hour a day is nowhere near enough.

Here's another link! www.yourpurebredpuppy.com/reviews/jackrussellterriers.html

micci25 · 25/05/2008 18:09

no she is definatley barking at what she is afraid of not attention i have tried sitting close to the window with her when the buses are there but she still barks!

she gets plenty of attention as she is like dd1 i cannot go anywhere without her being under my feet. she even come with me when i visit my mum!

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hercules1 · 25/05/2008 18:12

Have you read the link? You could perhaps start doing various stuff at home to stimulate her now.

jajas · 25/05/2008 18:13

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hercules1 · 25/05/2008 18:16

def needs long walks

LobstersLass · 25/05/2008 18:18

jajas, if it was living next door to me I would have shot it too!

Sorry micci! My neighbour's dog used to crap on my lawn every day. After repeatedly asking them to try to stop this, my dh got fed up of cleaning it up, so we stored a months worth in a plastic bag and then put it on their doorstep.

It soon stopped. We're still good friends with our neighbours and the bag of dogshit has never been mentioned!

jajas · 25/05/2008 18:22

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expatinscotland · 25/05/2008 18:31

I can't get a trainer because I don't drive.

I can't get a trainer because I'm on a wait list.

I can't take her long walks because [insert excuse].

Responsible dog owners ACT, not make excuse after excuse.

You've had THREE YEARS to sort out this poor animal's behaviour.

You got a dog that is known to need lots of exercise and who also needed professional help you have failed to get.

For three years.

I wouldn't want to let the dog out, tbh, because it's not the animal's fault it behaves how it does, I'd want to let YOU out the gate.

You have no business owning a dog, tbh.

micci25 · 25/05/2008 18:38

yes am reading them all now not really sure what to mae of it all as some it sounds like it could be describing my dog as they knew her but other things arent like her at all.

i.e. she is not at all destructive and never has been. when she was a puppy she used to 'hoard' my shoes when i was out but never destroy them. the vet said that this was from lonliness and that she missed me hence the reason i now take her to my mums with me. he also suggested that i build her relationship with the cats as terriers need constant company but she was always afraid of my cats. she is now still wary but they are friendly and will share her kennel on a night

think i may have trying to train her wrong way as it says in one of them that they need training a particular way and not the way you would train another breed.

i have downloaded a training guide. and am rofl at the chasing them when they escape is the worst thing that you can do, as i have already learned this the hard way. i once spent about three hours chasing her around the park near to where we are moving and only caught her coz she jumped into the stream running from me and could not get back out, i had to get in there after her!!!

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sophiewd · 25/05/2008 18:43

You said in one of your posts that your dog was toilet trained - why isn't she now.

You also said that she got walked once a day for 30 mins - not enough.

YOu need to find a new home for her.

lulumama · 25/05/2008 18:44

don;t wait for the dog to alert you to go out! let her out several times a day

i am stunned that you leave the dog, prone to barking, and bought to bark at intruders etc, outside for 6 - 8 hours at night.

you have had the dog 3 years, which is long enough to deal with behavioural issues and toilet training.

perhaps you underestimated the attention your dog would need?

did you get a dog, becasue a police man advised you it would be good to alert you to intruders or because you wanted to commit to owning a pet?

i think you have totally underestimated what you need to do, and i agree with expat, and i have 2 dogs myself, as i said earlier

it is not rocket science to presume that a barking dog will annoy people if it barks in the night !

Alambil · 25/05/2008 19:11

What county do you live in? If it's Herts, Beds or Bucks, I know a very good trainer to sort all your problems

SylvieBruno · 25/05/2008 19:14

lol at tranquiliser dart. I thought about poisoning the bloody yapper who lived somewhere within earshot of my old house.

micci25 · 25/05/2008 19:25

no lewis fan i am ne and the trainer that i have contacted is experienced with jack russels so i will go with her.

i have had dogs all my life lulu so it was not just to stop intuders. i have never had a terrier and didnt realise that her training needs would be any different to the dogs that i have had in the past.

my sister has just been round she often sleeps on my sofa and has confirmed that the dog does not bark a lot at night. most nights she hears nothing. also a house not far from here was broken into last night via the back gate so maybe they came here but were chased away by the dog?

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micci25 · 25/05/2008 19:45

it was not the neighbours they have just sent thier son around to ask if the dog was back okay as they saw her running around early this morning and tried to catch her but she was too fast. they dont hear her on a night much either, (this is from the son whose window overlooks my yard) only through the day when thier dc's are playing out but dont mind this as they are aware that i bring the dog when she barks at their noise.

same neighbours mil had spoken to. the other side is still sleeping presumably.

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LobstersLass · 25/05/2008 19:46

It's fine saying you've identified a trainer that you're going to use, but you've already admitted that she has a 2 month waiting list. That's potentially 60 nights of barking for your neighbours!

How's about trying one of these?
www.barkbusters.co.uk/dog-training-experts/north-east

DirtySexyMummy · 25/05/2008 19:47

Stop making excuses - you are not fit to own this dog.

DirtySexyMummy · 25/05/2008 19:48

Er, if he works nights it is doubtful he would be asleep at 7.45pm.

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