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to think that whoever let my dog out last night/early this morning is v cruel and evil person who has obv never had pets or children?

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micci25 · 25/05/2008 09:44

was laying bed when i heard my dog barking at the front of the house. when she should be safely locked up in the back yard. went to look out the back window and the back gate was wide open dog no where to be seen!

the back gate is usually locked, i dont know why it wasnt last night but i cant even remember who opened it last so cant blame anyone for that.

cue me getting up immediatley and searching streets for dog. luckily she had come back of her own accord and was waiting at the back gate while i was looking round the front for her !

dp thinks that this is forgivable as who ever let her out probably did because they were sick of her barking. i think that if this is the casae they should have to come to me to complain and not just let my family out!

the dog does bark but only when she hears noises. although this noise can be just a car and usually is. on a weekend her barking is worse because she can hear people coming home in taxis and drunks walking past.

but if she is barking for more than a couple of minutes at a time i will go and see what she is barking at which stops her.

we live oppposite a bus depo and two very busy roads so there is every chance that the dog could have been run over, she is a terrier so it is her nature to hunt and kill, she could very easily have gotten hold of some ones pet bunny, guniea pig, chickens, kitten (she is scared of cats i have two and the bully her but could easily kill a kitten), for all who ever let out knows she could be a biting dog and could have got hold of a child, also who ever did do it must live in my street as we have alley gates so they would also know that i have a four year old dd who would be gutted if her dog was hurt.

am absolutely livid that some one would be so inconsiderate dp still seems to think this acceptable (but admits it is wrong he is just not annoyed by it) as the dog could have woke them up

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micci25 · 25/05/2008 10:10

of course i would be bothered if i thought that she was annoying anoyone but i would have been happy to do something to try and stop this if they had let me know that it was a problem, her barking does not go on all night just for a few mins maybe once or twice and during week sometimes not at all. when she does bark during the week it is usually when next door are bringing thier car into the alley at about half eleven as far as i can see he doesnt work nights so there is no reason for him to bring his car in this late and also the dog is not always outside when he does this as we are usually up!

if he wants to bring his car in that late and the dog barking bothers him all he has to do is knock and let us know that he bringing in the car and we will bring the dog inside.

wouldnt a better course of action to have been to speak to me about the dog before they got so annoyed they felt the need to let her out! which was endangering both my dog and other peoples pets and children!

am not a violent person so i see no reason why who ever did this could not have spoken to me about the dog first

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Stripteasle · 25/05/2008 10:10

Yes you ARE being unreasonable.

misdee · 25/05/2008 10:14

seriously, you are blaming a neighbour for driving his car late in at night.

FFS train thaqt bloody dog or next time ou wont be so lucky.

SmugColditz · 25/05/2008 10:14

Micci, when you start an AIBU thread and everyone says 'Yes you are', that means you are being unreasonable.

3andnomore · 25/05/2008 10:16

"when she does bark during the week it is usually when next door are bringing thier car into the alley at about half eleven as far as i can see he doesnt work nights so there is no reason for him to bring his car in this late and also the dog is not always outside when he does this as we are usually up!"

you are getting more and more unreasonable now, me thinks....

JodieG1 · 25/05/2008 10:17

People shouldn't have to knock when they are going in to their homes because your dog will bark. You know it will bark so bring it it fgs. You are definitely being unreasonable, I don't think you'll get many agreeing with you so maybe you should start trying to be a considerate neighbour and bring the dog inside.

A dog barking even during the day all the time would drive me mad.

micci25 · 25/05/2008 10:23

no am not blaming the nieghbour as i said if he wants to bring his car in that late that is his business and if the dog bothered him i would be happy to bring her inside while he did so, also her barking is not enough to serioulsy deprive any one of sleep!

yes at weekends it can be bad, but still not enough to keep any one awake all night! my dd1 sleeps right above the dog and is never disturbed by her!

she barks more in the day tbh! dp seems to think that she is a problem but then he doesnt like much because of her toilet training, and trust me i have tried but she is a v dirty dog and just doesnt seem to get it! she is fine during the day when you can see her but even if she is just in the kitchen where you cant see her she will still do it it just hasnt occured to her to bark/scratch at the door to alert you to the fact that she needs to be out! she justs sits at the door wagging her tail till you notice her or its too late!

i really really dont think that she barks enough to bother any one a lot! its not incessant all night long.

and @more acceptable times' by that i meant on the occasions that she is outside early she stops any barking at about half eleven during the week, after people have left the pub over the road, but she is not usually out this early so is not usually a problem during the week.

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kazbeth · 25/05/2008 10:23

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anachronism · 25/05/2008 10:24

So he has to come and tell you if he wants to use his car?

I have this picture in my mind of a very big world revolving around this tiny little dog!

It is not all about the dog!

Why should he not use his car at night? Why is that any of your business?
It is probably a lot quieter than your dog!

I think you know people are likely to be pissed off at the barking, you feel rotten about it, and you are cross with yourself.

Maybe some training for the dog would be a good place to start so it can start fitting in with other people/you and not ruling the neighbourhood

KerryMum · 25/05/2008 10:25

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Carmenere · 25/05/2008 10:25

How about getting her trained professionally, that could deal with her toilet training and barking in one. Money well spent I'd imagine.

KerryMum · 25/05/2008 10:25

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RubySlippers · 25/05/2008 10:27

Micci - just beacuse your DD sleeps thorugh it doesn't mean your neighbours do!

barking in the day is irritating too

train your dog, and bring her in at night

misdee · 25/05/2008 10:28

'yes at weekends it can be bad, but still not enough to keep any one awake all night! my dd1 sleeps right above the dog and is never disturbed by her!'

a friggin tap dripping keeps me awake, how do u know if the dog barking is keeping other people awake?

SmugColditz · 25/05/2008 10:28

Micci25

reality check

Everyone thinks you are being unreasonable.

The chances are your neighbours do too.

Bring the dog in at night before someone poisons her.

Seriously, if you were my neighbour and you had a dog barking intermittently through the night, I would Take Steps.

KerryMum · 25/05/2008 10:28

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RubySlippers · 25/05/2008 10:29

colditz - if she was my neighbour we would have had words some time ago

RubySlippers · 25/05/2008 10:29

hello Kerry ... how goes it?

3andnomore · 25/05/2008 10:31

Have you talked to your Vet about your dogs messyness....maybe it's a medical problem, and also, a lot of vets do offer Behaviourial classes or at least have contacts....honestly, I think you should really adress yor dogs problem, as a 3 year old dog should be clean and housetrained....

GoodGollyMissMolly · 25/05/2008 10:32

YABVVVVVU

I feel sorry for your neighbours, I would be very peed off if one of my neighbours did this.

Why do you have to wait to be asked by your neighbours before you do some training with your dog? Surely a responsible dog owner would identify the problem, such as exessive barking, and train the dog accordingly weather or not someone has complained.

I mean if it was the other way around and a neighbour of yours was playing loud music into the night or had a barking dog and it kept waking you and your DC the you would me mightily peed off wouldn't you.

Why should your neighbours have to put up with your dog waking them and their DC just because you are an irresponsible dog owner. Also why should your neighbour not drive his car at night, why on earth should he have to knock on your door for you to bring the dog in while he backs his car up.

You need to grow up lovey and take resposibility for your dog.

Oh and by the way I am not a dog hater, I love dogs and have 2 of my own. But I am responisble whem it comes to dog/pet ownership.

hercules1 · 25/05/2008 10:32

You are being unreasonable. Saying your dog is a dirty dog does not excuse you from not having trained it properly and leaving it outside all night because of this.

We have 3 dogs and are always aware that can be a pain for neighbours if not trained properly. THey are kept inside all night as of course they would bark if outside all night and we just cleaned up after them in the morning until they were properly house trained.
THe breeds we have arent really barkers anyway unlike terriers.

Dogs are hard work and need constant input and training or you shouldnt have it.

I am really not surprised someone let it out.

edam · 25/05/2008 10:32

Someone gave you a good tip about using a crate at night as dogs don't foul where they sleep. Try it. And ask for help re. training - suggest your vet as a first port of call. Your dog is clearly a problem for your neighbours and can't be that happy in itself, poor thing. You should be dealing with it, not complaining.

duchesse · 25/05/2008 10:33

I think bethoo's idea of a crate for sleeping in is the best one so far. She will be indoors (therefore not so likely to be lonely/ feel rejected) and shut up in a crate, she is unlikely to pee unless she has a medical condition. Adult dogs rarely pee in places they consider the kennel unless they have emotional or medical problems.

Is she ever allowed in the house in the daytime? Does she have a bed inside? Both is these would lead her to treat your house as her keenel and stop peeing inside.

Is she peeing in a room she is not allowed into? This would indicate that she is seeking a place that is not her "kennel" to relieve herself, and probably a last-thing walk before you go to bed. We are lucky that our dog has a bladder of steel, but you may need to train hers to hold more.

And yes, dog barking through the night would drive anyone nuts and lead them to do strange things.

Sufi · 25/05/2008 10:33

your neighbours shouldn't have to come and ask you to sort your dog out before you do anything about it - you should be considerate enough in the first place to think, hmm, a constantly barking dog is going to annoy even the most good natured of people.

Dogs barking during the day are annoying, too, you know... hearing my neighbour's dog yapping day and night drove me nuts. And as my DS goes to bed at 6.30pm, the yapping would wake him up even tho 6.30pm isn't considered an 'unreasonable' time.

I used to have my own dog, who liked a good bark, and I trained him to shut up sharpish. It's just not neighbourly.

YABU. I'd hate to live next door to you. Sort it out, and stop blaming your neighbours for your inability to train your dog properly!

micci25 · 25/05/2008 10:33

kazbeth she is a very fearfull dog so the cars probably do bother her, but she has always been 'barky' even when she was kept inside and luckily we are moving soon to a place where our bit of the alley is right in a corner so there will be no reason for cars to go there plus there isnt really a road all the way our street as it is right near a park.

i dont think that she is particulalry unhappy.

and as i keep saying it is only dp's opinion that the dog bothers anyone. he knows the next door nighbours one side quite well, they drink in the same pub together and the wife next door has had no problem before in slagging to me to the local barmaids over the way i care for (or dont in her opinion) dd1, i dont think she realised that my sister worked in the pub. so am sure if that side thought that the dog was a problem i would have heard about it! and the other side is a single man who works nights a lot of the time so the dog barking on a night cannot bother him as he is not there.

she barked once last night and i can only presume that was when who ever was letting her was opening the door as she would have been scared to see a stranger and would have barked from fear.

yes admittedly at times her barking could be a problem for some but not every night, or even every week.

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