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Asking a child’s mother to pay for replacement pastry?!

336 replies

HeatingFiddler · 29/06/2025 08:03

Yesterday at my local coffee shop/bakery I had my pastry on a tray on the counter and was waiting for my coffee. In front of me was a mum with two kids.

One of the kids was fairly young and kept touching everything including glass cabinets, tables, chairs, the self-serve cutlery. She also kept putting her fingers in her mouth and hair. As kids do.

Anyway. She suddenly grabbed my pastry! I shrieked (probably an over reaction, but god the child has literally just shove her fingers in her mouth moments before). Kids mum turned around and asked what the problem was. I said that her child had just touched my pastry, after putting her fingers in her mouth.
And she said, ‘oh. Kids will be kids. I’m sure it’s fine.’

Obviously, I said, ‘kids will not just be kids. It’s unhygienic and poor /parenting and I would like for you to buy me a replacement.’

She said ‘if it’s that big of an issue I’m sure you can ask the staff for a new one.’

At this point a member of staff arrived. I explained the situation and said, ‘I don’t think a replacement should come from you. This happened because the child was not being supervised. The child’s mother should pay.’

Anyway, in the end the child’s mother agreed to pay and she took the one her child had touched and they ate it and then left.

Was I being unreasonable to say the mother should pay and to refuse to eat the pastry after that? I genuinely don’t think The coffee shop should have had to front a replacement either - it wasn’t their error!

OP posts:
Zombiefluff · 29/06/2025 09:39

WhyWouldAnyone · 29/06/2025 09:37

People are jumping on that word, when it was probably an exclamation of surprise and disgust.

It’s utterly attention seeking and annoying behaviour in public, and even worse from a grown adult.

WhyWouldAnyone · 29/06/2025 09:40

Areyouserioushuh · 29/06/2025 09:33

They should eat junk? What???
I didnt say that at all. I said good opportunity to go without the pastry

You absolutely did say 'go without junk' in your attempt to make it the OP's fault and absolve the parent.

HeatingFiddler · 29/06/2025 09:41

WhyWouldAnyone · 29/06/2025 09:37

People are jumping on that word, when it was probably an exclamation of surprise and disgust.

It really was. Like an ‘Eurgh!’ Type noise.

Not a ‘I just saw the Sistine chapel’ noise.

OP posts:
Weepixie · 29/06/2025 09:41

This reply has been deleted

Message deleted by MNHQ. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

I agree

JingsMahBucket · 29/06/2025 09:41

Zombiefluff · 29/06/2025 09:39

It’s utterly attention seeking and annoying behaviour in public, and even worse from a grown adult.

😂 This is batshit.

Ohtobemycat · 29/06/2025 09:41

Sorry but shrieking ia a bit crazy, are you usually so easily rattled like that ?
Yes, she should pay for the pastry.
But you should also learn to handle situations better. I can not imagine shrieking because someone touched my pastry, that is next level dramatising.

ByMerryTiger · 29/06/2025 09:41

Sloozy · 29/06/2025 09:38

Shrieking and then insisting on a replacement pastry, while fine and probably justified, is not usually the type of behaviour described as ‘polite’ though (OP described her interaction with the mother as such).

I’m unclear as to how that’s relevant to what I’ve said.

CreteBound · 29/06/2025 09:42

x2boys · 29/06/2025 08:20

Would you want to eat a pastry that had been grabbed by someone else's small child?

@x2boysIt wouldn’t bother me at all, because I’m pretty good at understanding actual risk and the role of stomach acid. I also let my kids eat food they’ve dropped on floors. Any floors. We’re never sick.

arcticpandas · 29/06/2025 09:42

I don't eat pastry my kids have touched so yanbu about* *that No need to be rude and talk about poor parenting though. I would have asked her for a replacement though so well done for that (most people wouldn't dare).

WhyWouldAnyone · 29/06/2025 09:42

HeatingFiddler · 29/06/2025 09:41

It really was. Like an ‘Eurgh!’ Type noise.

Not a ‘I just saw the Sistine chapel’ noise.

People are just desperate to defend poor parenting and poor manners for some reason.

Perhaps they're also rude and bad parents? Make you wonder.

ProfessionalPirate · 29/06/2025 09:45

EverythingElseIsTaken · 29/06/2025 09:37

OP absolutely did not describe a toddler! She said One of the kids was fairly young. What OP described was a badly behaved child with a disinterested parent. Yes, the child may have been ND but so was one of mine - he probably. would have touched people’s food if I hadn’t actively been parenting! And IF he had ever touched someone’s food I would have arranged a replacement immediately before anything else needed to be said!

I was referring to her description of a child compulsively touching everything and putting their fingers in their mouth. That’s not a NT 5/6 year old.

You must be a very superior parent if you never took your eyes off your child for a second.

Weepixie · 29/06/2025 09:45

Kuretake · 29/06/2025 08:41

kids will not just be kids. It’s unhygienic and poor /parenting and I would like for you to buy me a replacement

I'm tickled people think the reason this sounds fake is that it's too articulate. It sounds fake because it's poorly phrased although could be that English is OP's second language.

I think it sounds very unnatural, stilted.

RowsOfFlowers · 29/06/2025 09:46

Mintsj · 29/06/2025 09:36

So is it “just what children do” to put their fingers in plug sockets and run out into the road? People have to parent fgs!

They’re not the same things @Mintsj 🙄

Areyouserioushuh · 29/06/2025 09:47

WhyWouldAnyone · 29/06/2025 09:40

You absolutely did say 'go without junk' in your attempt to make it the OP's fault and absolve the parent.

Not the Op fault at all. If a child had done it to me id ask the staff for another, or id just let the child eat it and go without it. Probably that as im on a diet personally, but no offence was intented towards the OP.

i wouldnt expect the mother to replace it. When you are in the same position you understand. My daughter would be this child even though i parent her as best i can. Its really difficult. She has behaviour issues though out of my control.

itsgettingweird · 29/06/2025 09:50

Kids will be kids.

That’s why parents need to parent!

Good on you for not making the coffee shop foot the bill because the parent didn’t do her job.

spindrift2025 · 29/06/2025 09:52

ruralmural · 29/06/2025 08:08

No, op still pays for her one.

Who pays for the original spoilt one? The mother?

WhyWouldAnyone · 29/06/2025 09:54

Areyouserioushuh · 29/06/2025 09:47

Not the Op fault at all. If a child had done it to me id ask the staff for another, or id just let the child eat it and go without it. Probably that as im on a diet personally, but no offence was intented towards the OP.

i wouldnt expect the mother to replace it. When you are in the same position you understand. My daughter would be this child even though i parent her as best i can. Its really difficult. She has behaviour issues though out of my control.

Why should the coffee shop pick up the tab?!

You really wouldn't offer to pay? Shame on you!

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 29/06/2025 09:58

itsgettingweird · 29/06/2025 09:50

Kids will be kids.

That’s why parents need to parent!

Good on you for not making the coffee shop foot the bill because the parent didn’t do her job.

"Yes, that's why parents need to parent."

Perfect response. Saving that one for the next time someone tells me "kids will be kids".

Dominoeffecter · 29/06/2025 09:58

WhyWouldAnyone · 29/06/2025 09:54

Why should the coffee shop pick up the tab?!

You really wouldn't offer to pay? Shame on you!

Shame on you 🤣 bit ott.

Areyouserioushuh · 29/06/2025 10:01

WhyWouldAnyone · 29/06/2025 09:54

Why should the coffee shop pick up the tab?!

You really wouldn't offer to pay? Shame on you!

Shame on me...

okay then

ColourThief · 29/06/2025 10:03
Bait GIF

I was quoting a comment that said they don’t believe it happened this way, but the comment seems to be a victim of Mumsnet’s itchy delete finger (Oddly, not itchy on transphobic comments though as I’ve seen multiple times).

Anyway, I think you were Bang on.
A made up scenario to just get people foaming over “bad parenting”.
We all know how Mumsnet loves to bash ‘parents these days’.

Awaiting that itchy delete finger.
Don’t care, said my piece 💁🏼‍♀️

MoreChocPls · 29/06/2025 10:04

You were being unreasonable for shrieking but otherwise the other mum was a bad parent and should have paid so every other aspect was bang on

PluckyChancer · 29/06/2025 10:06

MissHollysDolly · 29/06/2025 08:51

You’re being unreasonable to demand that the situation is rectified in the manner in which YOU choose. Yes the children should have been under control, but in the majority of circumstances like this the cafe would have offered to replace. Just let them!

Is it unfashionable for parents to be held responsible for their children’s actions these days? Why should the business lose out because a random child has behaved badly?

Or do you also think that the shop should suck it up when people steal too?

Mine didn’t go around touching stuff and I’d have avoided taking them out to cafes if they were causing a nuisance. Too many parents feel entitled to act as if they’re not responsible for their little darlings and that the rest of us should also smile indulgently at their annoying little brats.

Gall10 · 29/06/2025 10:10

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 29/06/2025 08:04

YANBU. Hopefully she will watch her child more attentively next time.

I rather doubt it!

PiousBitch · 29/06/2025 10:11

Am I the only one that wouldn't be bothered about a kid touching it and will have eaten it anyway? 😂