To ask where I can move that won't have depressing random nutcases and law-exempt criminal youth around every corner

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I know it's nice to have a social safety net and I want that but we don't have it now it's just unfunded chaos and the press moaning about public sector workers.

So, Switzerland? Singapore? Where is feasible (in my forties so recognise that I'd need to make a damn good case for myself). Somewhere boring and hardworking with rules and clean streets and a health service you can access and no toleration for the stuff that's everywhere in the UK now.

I am prepared for the answer to be hard cheese you left it too late and now just need to stay indoors as much as poss until the sweet release of death.

Japanese culture is very polite, law abiding and rule following if that's what you're looking for. They can be quite xenophobic though.

I find Whitechapel just miserable and upsetting to be in

The behaviour of kids has definitely got worse. And adults to be fair. I actually think social media has given certain people this feeling that they are centre of the universe and they behave like that wherever they go. The kids I volunteer with struggle to muster a please or thank you.

I'd say move to a smaller town with a low crime rate but even in such places you could find yourself like me -living next door to an absolute twonk who has spent so many years killing off the few brain cells he had with strong skunk that he's not just a waste of space but is actively hateful to everyone around him including his own mother.

You can do that most places to be honest. Yes, cities have some dodgy areas, but avoid those and you are fine. You would probably be fine in most of them too, as crime tends to be community based in those places.

I’m just back from London. Is there litter? Of course, and I’m sure more than some places. I wouldn’t have categorised it ‘as mess’ though. Didn’t impact my enjoyment.

On the edge of Cardiff.

Well who does? Not very likely in most of the U.K. though. Certainly not more likely than most other countries. Particularly the decapitation.

Eh?
Can’t tell if this is supposed to be funny.
The country would be fucked without people doing the low skilled jobs (that phrase itself winds me up as those jobs often require lots of skills). Remember the pandemic at all? Who did we rely on day to day? Many of them were your ‘low skilled’ jobs.

I love it. Second time I’ve chosen to stay there recently. What upsets you, exactly? The fab market? The great street art? The good transport links? The friendly feel?

Happened in London last year.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvg977nkl9xo.amp

So? I wasn’t replying to you for a start, and just because you were fine doesn’t mean others are all of the time.
I live here. You don’t.

Isn’t Sweden now the rape capital of Europe? Or perhaps Stockholm or Malmo specifically. It’s no utopia and has all the same problems as other western countries these days

You know healthcare is not free, right? Unless you don’t pay any taxes…?

You’re kidding right? Shein, temu, Amazon ring any bells? Stuff was made well then and lasted at least

And in the UK there's no practical way to defend yourself. Like if someone pulls a weapon out you're stuffed basically. If it's just fisticuffs you have a chance (I do kickboxing).

If anyone on MN ever argues for some form of pepper spray the response is "oh well it can just be used against you".

@BobbieTables mysoginistic too - I like Japan, but certainly in my opinion men are king

Yes, that’s terrible.
But not likely.

My point was it’s not the same everywhere…
Why so angry?

Whenever I go there I genuinely don't feel like I'm in the UK.

why though? That’s so weird to me.

No, the definition of rape is different in sweden, which means its easier to gain a successful conviction. In Sweden similar sexual offences are also rape, rather than ‘just’ sexual assault. The change also led to the rate of conviction increasing by 75%, the actual conviction rate is still low, but much higher than many other countries. Reports are higher here too, as they are in many places where sex ed is introduced early on and not seen as dirty or taboo.

I didn't know that, I'm not surprised he was miffed!

Exactly. This is what irks me about people's understanding of stats. If you get raped in Sweden, it's likely to lead to conviction. In the UK, only a fraction of assaults even get reported, let alone convicted

I‘m not angry. Though I don’t appreciate non-Londoners telling Londoners how they should feel in their own city. Coming as a visitor is never the same as living in a place day in, day out, year in, year out.

i walk for miles in my bit of the UK… don’t think I’ve seen a depressing random ‘nutcase’ once. Hopefully you’re not just referring in a highly derogatory way to people with mental health problems. Equally I have never encountered any law-exempt criminal youth either. I don’t live in a posh place..just an ordinary place. In the nearest big town there are more homeless people..that makes me sad more than anything.