To ask where I can move that won't have depressing random nutcases and law-exempt criminal youth around every corner

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I know it's nice to have a social safety net and I want that but we don't have it now it's just unfunded chaos and the press moaning about public sector workers.

So, Switzerland? Singapore? Where is feasible (in my forties so recognise that I'd need to make a damn good case for myself). Somewhere boring and hardworking with rules and clean streets and a health service you can access and no toleration for the stuff that's everywhere in the UK now.

I am prepared for the answer to be hard cheese you left it too late and now just need to stay indoors as much as poss until the sweet release of death.

Walking at night past 3 or 4 cafes on the trot that just have gangs of Afghan men sitting outside them watching you (no other customers) is pretty unnerving.

There are also gangs of foreign men always hanging around the B&Q near me, just blocking your way as you try to find a parking space. Not pleasant but I doubt you frequent DIY stores on the Old Kent Road when you drop by London.

Could we do without them?
Should people doing an essential job get a living wage?

I have a theory.
80% of people are lovely.
Between 5%and 10% are not.
The others - depends who they are with.

Well not Sweden. Apparently they have bombs going off every week.

Gangs have realised under 16s are exempt from arrest there. So they throw homemade Molotov cocktails and mail bombs into random shops, cafes and houses.

There was a really interesting bbc doc on the scandi countries recently. I think it was Norway who have smashed it. They are all drinking wine and eating oysters on waterside cafes in luxury land

I don’t. But London isn’t the only place with immigrants. I don’t find them threatening on the whole.
I don’t suppose you walk around Grangetown when you visit Cardiff. I do.

I live in NW England now, in a smallish town outside of a large city. It's wonderful. No obvious crime, can leave door unlocked with no worries. Get several parcels a week left at my door and are never stolen. No unpleasant noise from neighbours. There are thousands of communities like mine. Going to live in another country is fine is you immerse yourself in their language, culture etc, but it's not a panacea. The awful thing about the UK is that many of our citizens complain about what an awful place it is. It isn't. I love it here and in my 9th decade have been afforded a blessed life in England.

Unlike other European countries (it seems if you read this thread) we appear to have absolutely zero barrier to entry.

Interesting RE Swedish rape rates. I didn’t know they’d recently made changes to their reporting which looks like an artificial spike. Thanks for the info

The "forriners, coming over here, walking on our streets, how dare they" vibe is strong on here. Just wear a badge saying "Brown people not welcome".

Ddakji

why is my experience of ‘daytime’ south east London less relevant than ‘night time’ south east London?

one is not more relevant than the other, it’s not compulsory to go out at night ?

I know from knowing everyone in my small area though that it’s safe at night.

the demographics of who it’s NOT safe for is teenage kids hanging round, they ride scooters and wheelie up the streets and there’s traffic accidents. But that’s because teenagers are daft (just like I was at that age)

there’s very little violent crime in London per head of population and that’s the number that matters

You've clearly never lived in New Zealand. Definitely not what the OP's looking for.

That's my experience too. I sometimes wonder where the majority of posters on here live as they seem to have a completely different experience of the UK to mine.

you just pick it up as you go along 😁

(I’ll show myself out…)

@Bluebellwood129 how dare you crush my dreams!

seriously, is NZ not amazing?! What gossip about NZ do you have? I’d like to know 😂

Awww sorry! Well, it has a ton of social problems just like anywhere else. Having lived there, I definitely wouldn't describe it as amazing. The hype is huge but if you're well travelled, it just doesn't deliver. The Pacific islands are pretty awesome though and it's super cheap to fly to those from NZ, so that's one huge plus point!

I went to sidcup recently and it was full of elderly people so maybe there ?

That's a good one!

I would bugger off to the yorkshire dales in a heartbeat..buy a lovely detatched farm in a tiny hamlet and live happily ever after.

I think Japan meets these criteria

Like many others, I don’t care what colour someone is or where they come from - especially if they’re female. What I do care about is how they behave and if they threaten the way of life, safety, security and comfort of those who live here -

I don’t like young women in my family ( including ‘immigrants’) being hissed at, shouted at, looked up and down by, sneered at, harassed or worse by men from cultures with medieval attitudes to women who feel free to behave exactly as they like in the UK with no respect for our law or culture.

Two people can live in the same place and see quite different things, due to personality.

Dubai?
I was watching a documentary about a wine who was imprisoned in Dubai for drinking alcohol and becsuse a taxi driver wrongly accused her of having sex in the back of his cab with her boyfriend im not sure it's the safest place to live I think i would take grubby uk any day over Dubai.

Consensual pre-marital sex between individuals aged 18 and over is generally legal in Dubai and the UAE, following a decriminalization in November 2020

In the back of a taxi?
Which is what she was accused of..

I haven’t experienced that from immigrant men (no more than from white British ones anyway…). Not saying it doesn’t happen if you say that’s your experience, but it’s not mine - therefore there are U.K. places you don’t see it. Lots of them.