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Flaky friend - last straw AIBU??

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Fitasafiddle1 · 24/06/2025 11:40

I have a long standing friend that I like a lot. Over the years she has bailed out of virtually all invites from most of our friends, including me. Only managing a handful of times. Sometimes without telling them/ us and just not turning up. She can be very avoidant. I thought it might be social anxiety, but she does a hobby that requires a lot of socialising at times that she manages well.

This time however it was important as I had something to tell her in person, she bailed an hour before dinner and was so flippant and she said she was going to a gig in town and she’ll see me another time. Up to now I have been quite relaxed about her flakiness.

I sent a message to say I was finding it hard to have any meaningful friendship with her, as she keeps letting me down and now she is cross and upset with me?! She is giving me the silent treatment now. I feel like it is kind of gas lighting and a strange response. Wdyt?

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TravelPanic · 24/06/2025 19:53

I had exactly the same, OP, and I decided to just stop contacting her after the final straw - which was her just not showing up to something that was going to be just the 2 of us, leaving me alone in the city one evening, no warning.

I felt sad about it for a couple of months and missed her, but now 10 years on I honestly don’t think about her at all and this thread has actually reminded me how glad I am I don’t have to deal with that flakiness and uncertainty anymore!

Spinachpastapicker · 24/06/2025 19:54

Delphiniumandlupins · 24/06/2025 16:57

I would tell both the flake and her white knight that you are very sorry to learn about the problems she has been having. Of course you don't want to add to her stresses so will give her space for now but please get in touch if there is any way you can be of help. See if there is any contact from her in future but don't go out of your way to initiate. Definitely don't plan on her being present at any event whoever organises it.

This is a clever response.

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LurkyMcLurkinson · 24/06/2025 17:41

I say own it.
I suspect it’s me that’s upset the flake as I expressed my disappointment last night that she cancelled on me an hour before we were due to meet as she was wanted to go to a concert instead. Of course had I know about her father I would have handled the situation more sensitively but I had no idea.

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This. Do this OP.

Spinachpastapicker · 24/06/2025 20:06

LurkyMcLurkinson · 24/06/2025 18:20

Now I’d be tempted to be a bitch since they’ve decided to take the mean girls approach and gang up on you. I would keep the message largely the same but add a sting in the tail.

I suspect it’s me that’s upset the flake as I expressed my disappointment last night that she cancelled on me an hour before we were due to meet as she was wanted to go to a concert instead. Of course had I known about her father or her mental health difficulties I wouldn’t have chosen that evening to address what has been an ongoing difficulty in our friendship for some years now.

You are gooooooooooood at this!! 👏

LurkyMcLurkinson · 24/06/2025 20:13

Spinachpastapicker · 24/06/2025 20:06

You are gooooooooooood at this!! 👏

Years of practice writing messages for my friends to send to shitty men 😂

Mumtobabyhavoc · 24/06/2025 20:13

MH, personal losses etc are reasons for flaky behaviour, but shouldn't be excuses. How is it that meeting OP wouldn't help flake but going to a concert would? Sounds like flake took the better offer. It also sounds like flake and the friend group view OP as less important. OP doesn't need to apologize because she's owed apologies from flake and friends for accusing her of being insensitive. Flake seems to control everyone using MH for the sympathy.

SaturdayDream · 24/06/2025 20:14

People have things going on.

Jellyslothbridge · 24/06/2025 20:17

I think not messaging anything to the group may now be sensible. She is not only a flake but gone down further in your estimation as not being a decent human

Fitasafiddle1 · 24/06/2025 20:23

I am sorry that so many pp have had to deal with the same thing. It is horrible when it’s a friend you were/are close to. The davro thing seems quite common, suddenly it’s OUR fault they are flaky! Nothing to do with them.

Those asking do the wider group not recognise her behaviour? Yes they absolutely do, but everyone makes light of it. No one has ever said they were annoyed (they must have been over the years, but just didn’t say anything) so it’s almost been indulged. Then when flake finally comes to something it’s celebrated almost, that is my observation. Oh flake is here with us kind of thing, it must be a special night. Or flakes chair is empty as she hasn’t turned up and someone will either make a joke or say something with concern as where she is. I have to admit I have gone along with it in the past, as it seemed easier. Despite being irritated.

As time has gone by it has really started to annoy me, just the casual disregard. Like we are free options - I guess in some ways we are!

It’s a small village and no one wants to rock the boat I get that, but she is just getting a free pass to take advantage.

I have just put on the group chat ‘so sorry to hear about your father flake’ and left it there, as I don’t want to feed the drama. I have known these women long enough to hope they know I would never deliberately hurt flake.

I feel like she has been playing us all for fools though. She obviously knows exactly what she is doing.

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MutedMavis · 24/06/2025 20:28

OP I have made three new friends in the last five years. They are all lovely. Two from work one from MN. Decent women are the norm!

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Stardiamond · 24/06/2025 20:40

Just let her go. She is not a good friend.

DontReplyIWillLie · 24/06/2025 20:42

SaturdayDream · 24/06/2025 20:14

People have things going on.

What Flakey had going on was dinner plans with the OP. She then ditched these when she decided something else that was going on was better.

spindrift2025 · 24/06/2025 20:44

Years ago I had a friend like this. She would be 3/4s of an hour late for a meal. So, we ordered, we finished and she turned up. I left. I said 'Sorry, I've finished. Off to the cinema now. ' She did not like and said that I was unfair. Never had enough money to pay her share of a meal, I took exactly the amount I would spend in cash and paid for my share. She was left short. Again, not happy. Not my problem.

Thegreatescape12345 · 24/06/2025 20:50

I had a friend like this. Well, similar. I really liked her and we had a great laugh together, we were quite close.
But she was also a huge flake, and it got to the point I would only make plans with her that I wasn't fussed about cancelling, stopped inviting her over for dinner (because I'd go to a lot of effort to prepare something and then she'd cancel last minute or just not turn up).
Her excuses always seemed really far fetched and wild, she had some mental health problems and I suspected sometimes she just needed to bail due to overwhelm - but when I asked her if this was the case she got pissed off with me for implying she was lying.
I think there's only so much you can tolerate. The final straw for me was 2 bails in a row, the first I had gone to continue work in a different base after work instead of going home, specifically so that I could get to hers for a decent time (she lived a while away from me, other work base was closer). She cancelled, so I'd wasted my evening for nothing. I called her up on her flakiness and after a bit of a spat, she offered to rearrange. She then forgot all about it and didn't show up.

I've not spoken to her since. Well, I actually never said anything, I think she apologised and I acknowledged it, she text now and again and I was nice back but just never committed to meeting her ever again and so the friendship fizzled out.
My life is actually better and less stressful without her.
My time is precious and people who take the piss with it, or don't value my time enough to at least have a proper excuse, aren't worth my time in the first place!

laclochette · 24/06/2025 20:52

You've told her how you feel which is good as it's honest. You can't control how she feels/how she takes it. That's on her.

Fitasafiddle1 · 24/06/2025 20:54

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I haven’t told anyone in the group that I had messsged Flake, I don’t want to cause drama or division in the wider group. I had hoped she would acknowledge it isn’t great when she lets people down, and she would make more of an effort. I didn’t envisage her trying to turn the group against me/behaving like she is the victim etc up to now I thought she was a nice person!

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Fitasafiddle1 · 24/06/2025 20:56

I think she has taken offence actually, and gone on the defensive as she has lost other friends (not in this group) who wouldn’t tolerate her non shows with good grace, and stopped inviting her, and basically dropped her.

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One friend (she was when flake didn’t turn up) has just to say don’t worry it will blow over?! And she could understand my frustration. It was a sweet message but neutral and supportive.

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Do they know it’s her tho and someone in the group that upset the attention seeking flake?

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I don’t think your intentions are very kind. I am okay thanks, I trust my friends, and although Flakes efforts to blame me for her shitty behaviour Is far from ideal, I am sure privately people will see this is her issue.

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