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Flaky friend - last straw AIBU??

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Fitasafiddle1 · 24/06/2025 11:40

I have a long standing friend that I like a lot. Over the years she has bailed out of virtually all invites from most of our friends, including me. Only managing a handful of times. Sometimes without telling them/ us and just not turning up. She can be very avoidant. I thought it might be social anxiety, but she does a hobby that requires a lot of socialising at times that she manages well.

This time however it was important as I had something to tell her in person, she bailed an hour before dinner and was so flippant and she said she was going to a gig in town and she’ll see me another time. Up to now I have been quite relaxed about her flakiness.

I sent a message to say I was finding it hard to have any meaningful friendship with her, as she keeps letting me down and now she is cross and upset with me?! She is giving me the silent treatment now. I feel like it is kind of gas lighting and a strange response. Wdyt?

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CheeseFiend40 · 24/06/2025 18:16

Fitasafiddle1 · 24/06/2025 18:09

Whilst I was trying to choose my words carefully to answer about the concert etc. Mutual friend has posted that she took flake to a concert because her mental health is ‘in the toilet’ and she needed a lift, ( so that now makes sense) and that is shocked by the total lack of empathy shown to flake, and that she thought the group would be much more supportive of flake as she deals with this crisis.

Mutual friend and I are not close. She has older dc and isn’t always around for meet ups etc but she does come to some.

Lots of replies of how kind MF is for thinking of flake and of course flake needs nights out to lift her spirits.

I am just flabbergasted. My sense is to say nothing now. This is getting into a real mess.

I would still respond the same as previously suggested to nip this whole thing in the bud, just amend it slightly:

I suspect most of this is aimed at me as I expressed my disappointment last night that flake cancelled on me an hour before we were due to meet as she wanted to go to a concert instead. Of course had I know about her father I would have perhaps responded differently.

scotstars · 24/06/2025 18:19

I would reduce contact. I have social anxiety and don't always take up offers and invites if I know they will make me uncomfortable but always think that's better than last min changing my mind!

LurkyMcLurkinson · 24/06/2025 18:20

Now I’d be tempted to be a bitch since they’ve decided to take the mean girls approach and gang up on you. I would keep the message largely the same but add a sting in the tail.

I suspect it’s me that’s upset the flake as I expressed my disappointment last night that she cancelled on me an hour before we were due to meet as she was wanted to go to a concert instead. Of course had I known about her father or her mental health difficulties I wouldn’t have chosen that evening to address what has been an ongoing difficulty in our friendship for some years now.

JoshLymanSwagger · 24/06/2025 18:25

Mutual friend has posted that she took flake to a concert because her mental health is ‘in the toilet’ and she needed a lift

Yes, but the Flake already had plans with you. That's the point.

You need to just state the facts that you had plans together and she let you down at the last minute to go to the concert, so you questioned how meaningful her friendship was to you.

WillaHermione · 24/06/2025 18:27

Is it possible she is ND OP? I say that as I have a now acquaintance who has dyspraxia and this is the way she behaves and has done since we were teenagers. We are now in our 40s. Only shows up when she wants to, just doesn’t show up, occasionally comes up with an excuse at the last minute. I dealt with this by asking her to meet me and DH when we doing something anyway that she could easily slip into and not asking her to meet us if it was important. Like your friend she doesn’t comprehend situation or feelings of others.

ArtTheClown · 24/06/2025 18:31

This certainly proves that "charmingly" flakey people are self-centred, toxic, manipulative arseholes, doesn't it?

TwoFastHorses · 24/06/2025 18:32

Daleksatemyshed · 24/06/2025 12:41

Your flakey friend is rude and entitled Op, you'll do until she gets a better offer then she'll dump you at a moment's notice. She hasn't got many friends, they've all got brassed off and dumped her, it's time you did the same.
When she doesn't have any friends left maybe she'll learn her lesson but I doubt it

This!

and I would add also arrogant and disrespectful. She’s not your friend.

Fitasafiddle1 · 24/06/2025 18:33

ByMerryTiger · 24/06/2025 18:15

I really don’t understand why you had to make this a whole ‘thing’. She flaked on you several times and you didn’t like it. Completely understandable. You pull back, mirror her efforts and let things die a natural death. That is not ghosting, it’s just going about your business.

Instead, you decided to send her ‘a message to say I was finding it hard to have any meaningful friendship with her, as she keeps letting me down’ and ‘a message to say I am pulling back because our time together doesn’t feel that important to her, and that’s fine she can prioritise what she wants but I won’t be organising anything else’.

Why?! It’s all just so unnecessary and puerile. And now there’s drama. For no reason.

I was honest with her because I had hoped we would work out something better. I didn’t want to stop inviting her, or create an issue but excluding. Adults talk through issues don’t they? At least I do. It’s okay to say when something feels uncomfortable. I assumed she would be open to talking it through.

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CluelessAboutBiology · 24/06/2025 18:34

Fitasafiddle1 · 24/06/2025 17:33

We didn’t even know about her df, this the first I have heard of it. I have posted a message of sympathy as suggested upthread. Not sure how to deal with the other messages asking who has upset her, clearly it’s me.

Well she’s clearly not so upset about her DF that she couldn’t go to a concert.

IsawwhatIsaw · 24/06/2025 18:34

Personally I wouldn’t bother responding to any of these messages.
And this woman isn’t any sort of friend, she’s manipulative and a user. Also if these others are supporting and believing her narrative I’d leave them all to it and move on.

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JumpingDizzy · 24/06/2025 18:45

IsawwhatIsaw · 24/06/2025 18:34

Personally I wouldn’t bother responding to any of these messages.
And this woman isn’t any sort of friend, she’s manipulative and a user. Also if these others are supporting and believing her narrative I’d leave them all to it and move on.

Spot on. What a manipulative cow.

I hope you have other friends apart from these sad sacks @Fitasafiddle1 ?

MageQueen · 24/06/2025 18:48

Fitasafiddle1 · 24/06/2025 18:09

Whilst I was trying to choose my words carefully to answer about the concert etc. Mutual friend has posted that she took flake to a concert because her mental health is ‘in the toilet’ and she needed a lift, ( so that now makes sense) and that is shocked by the total lack of empathy shown to flake, and that she thought the group would be much more supportive of flake as she deals with this crisis.

Mutual friend and I are not close. She has older dc and isn’t always around for meet ups etc but she does come to some.

Lots of replies of how kind MF is for thinking of flake and of course flake needs nights out to lift her spirits.

I am just flabbergasted. My sense is to say nothing now. This is getting into a real mess.

"That was nice of you Mary to arrange something so last minute for Flake. Just unfortunate that it was on a night me and Flake had originally made a plan and I knew nothing about any of this so I think it was understandable that I was upset that I'd been cancelled on at short notice."

MutedMavis · 24/06/2025 18:51

So my ex flake is the village queen bee @Fitasafiddle1 she has to be your best friend until she dumps you. I had a very big house, lots of parties. She took the BFF from me, my neighbour and a lady whose friend had been close for ten years. She even controlled the women's funeral. My friend was not allowed to say her goodbyes. Close friends only! Not a nice person. Think toxic player. Sadly some women are like this. Shame on them.

ThejoyofNC · 24/06/2025 18:51

She's being unbelievably nasty. Harnessing sympathy whilst encouraging people to ask who has upset her. She's trying to turn people against you.

ByMerryTiger · 24/06/2025 18:52

Fitasafiddle1 · 24/06/2025 18:33

I was honest with her because I had hoped we would work out something better. I didn’t want to stop inviting her, or create an issue but excluding. Adults talk through issues don’t they? At least I do. It’s okay to say when something feels uncomfortable. I assumed she would be open to talking it through.

You didn’t attempt to talk through issues, though. Neither of those was opening up a conversation.

Mirroring her behaviour wouldn’t have ‘created an issue’, as it would literally have been doing nothing. However, this clearly wouldn’t have satisfied your need to have your say. It’s all very silly and melodramatic.

There is nothing adult about this situation.

Ivy888 · 24/06/2025 18:52

Fitasafiddle1 · 24/06/2025 17:08

That is exactly what is happening. I guess out of fear of losing remaining group of friends she is trying to paint this in a different light, that I am being unkind to her. This is so far from the truth. I haven’t seen this side of her before. Its blowing up into the most awful situation now, as not only has she messaged mutual friend, but she posted a sad face on the group chat saying she is sorry she is such a huge disappointment to everyone and she didn’t mean to be so awful at everything and then said her df is terminally ill.

I am mortified by the replies of comfort and reassurance, and then separate messages to ask why she thinks that, and who has made flake so upset. One or two of them are really cross.

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I fail to understand how the df being terminal can be a reason to cancel dinner as she went to a gig instead. I could understand if she cancelled to spend time with him, but she didn’t. She’s just throwing that piece of information in for sympathy and to hide her shitty behaviour.

DBD1975 · 24/06/2025 18:53

When respect is not being served it is time to leave the table.

MutedMavis · 24/06/2025 18:56

@DBD1975 ooh I love this. Do you mind if I use it across my socials? Any credit due?

Reallybadidea · 24/06/2025 18:56

I have a similar friend that I posted about on here probably 10 years back. MNers advised that I say something similar to what you did originally and she reacted like your friend - angry, defensive and trying to make me feel guilty about her parent with a cancer diagnosis etc etc. I really regretted saying anything tbh. I ended up grovelling and apologising for upsetting her and the friendship kinda continued but eventually I quietly let it drop because it just made me feel shit about myself. I don't regret that.

This may not be good advice, but if I were you I'd grovel massively to her and the rest of the group to restore those friendships but then quietly drop the flakey friend going forward.

Eyebulb · 24/06/2025 18:57

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MutedMavis · 24/06/2025 19:02

@Eyebulb she took nothing from me. She actually love bombed friends around me. I didn't see her pattern for years.
I don't think they saw it the same way. She targeted rich women with connections. If they didn't deliver she dropped them.
However they all call her cancelling Carol. Not coined by me!

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