To think the US was right to bomb Iran? What am I missing?

[Lastu]

I am no fan of Trump. I’m very much left wing.

But am I missing something here? Why has everyone become such huge supporters of Iran? The world is a safer place as a result of removing their capability to develop nuclear weapons? Why is everyone carrying on like Iran is a victim and they were truly just trying to implement peaceful nuclear capabilities? Has everyone lost the plot?

Agreed.

it also reveals a lot about the pro Palestine loonies as I saw them all marching together yesterday waving their flags of the monster ayatollah making very clear that the Iranian regime and pro Palestinian cause go hand in hand for many people. I didn’t see anyone in the braying crowd looking uncomfortable about the Iranian regime flags.

Weird seeing lefties thinking they’re being super moral and virtuous whilst chanting for the eradication of Israel and defending the Iranian regime.

Well this is definitely sane and balanced.

Because it will displace people from their homes ,who will need to live somewhere else .
Every time there is a war , people loose their homes and look to other countries for asylum..
Not to mention the amount of casualties
This is not good for anyone
Except governments who sell weapons to make money from war

Who made us and the US the world police?

What right do we and the US have to dictate to others. When we have nuclear weapons!

How many people have the US and UK killed in the Middle East?

I stand by my first post…. Who are the terrorists?

There has literally just been an independent report to prove the opposite! Educate yourself.

Trump is dangerous... I just hope that the UK uses its common sense and doesn't get involved militarily or sell weapons to either side. The only involvement we should have should be diplomatic negotiations to stop Israels craziness which has kicked this whole situation off.

They are already talking about a Trump third term, he didn't seek approval from the US Congress for bombing another country and there seem to be no checks and balances on his power. He only allows the most partisan media representatives into his press conferences and he bans anyone who has criticsed him.

There is absolutely no way that you are 'very much left wing'.

So is your idea that if, despite negotiations, Iran goes ahead and develops nuclear weapons, they should just be ... what? Ordered to give them up? Taken to court?

It is well known that bombing countries is a Bad Thing. What part of that do you not understand @Lastu?

@Lastu "I think people dislike Trump so automatically decide that Iran is their friend."

That says it all really. It's why you keep accusing posters of supporting Iran's right to have nuclear weapons when they question whether bombing the country was the right choice.

You also seem woefully ignorant of the fact that Trump is riding roughshod over the constitution and ignoring the 'checks and balances' designed to hold the President accountable.

It’s like a replay of the love-in people suddenly had with Yemen a year or so ago.

"Very much left wing" my arse

If you’re quoting 1984, it’s ‘Eastasia’, not ‘East Asia.’ Or maybe you’ve only seen the film?

And you seem to be forgetting that a fundamental theme throughout George Orwell’s work is his loathing of the useful idiots of his time who claimed that the USSR wasn’t an evil force or our enemy, blatantly ignoring all their outrageous human rights abuses…

Not with a nuclear weapon they’re not.

What is likely to happen is Iran will probably carry out some attacks maybe against US bases nearby in Iraq to save face and then end up being forced to the table

Ah, well that's all fine and dandy, then. As long as the US itself doesn't have to suffer the consequences of its actions. No matter that some innocent Iraqis might end up as collateral damage.

How on earth was my post being contrary? I asked simple questions, which other posters such as @Mooselooseinmyhoose have answered indirectly in a much more helpful manner than you.

And no, I haven't forgotten about Nazanin, but that doesn't give us the right to bomb them as far as I'm aware.

Russia and North Korea are not run by religious nutbags, who believe dying for their beliefs is not only worthwhile, but to be encouraged. Granted their leaders are also unhinged, but Russia and N. Korea won't use nukes, because they, and the entire world, have too much to lose from the retaliation. The Islamic Republic of Iran doesn't feel destroying the world to be a bad thing and that dying as Martyrs is a reward - they'd prefer to be martyred in heaven with their "72 virgins" or how many ever it is and have all the unbelievers dead, that live in a world full of what they see as evil - you know, where women are treated as equals and gay people have rights.

There is a difference: the US is worse. Who are the West to decide who can and can’t have nuclear weapons? Take Israel for example - should a nation whose government is currently sanctioning a genocide have them?

…why does the USA decide that’s it’s particular brand of “Government” is the correct one, and think that gives them a right to impose it on the rest of the world?

It’s Imperialism, wrapped in a Stars and Stripes.

Honestly you ask to be enlightened but just want to crow your ignorance and sloganistic beliefs. Nothing you’ve said makes me think youre actually left wing, or have any education on the regions history. Stop thumbing your nose at people who do and who value diplomacy and rule of law and are trying to explain that to you. Are you 14 or a drunk nigel farage looking for attention?

You think Iran will just shrug its shoulders and forget about being bombed? If it is that much of a pushover, why is it considered a threat to the world?

So you understand they are run by lunatics.

Here is the thing. Once they have nuclear weapons, there is nothing to be done. You can't just bomb them, or invade them, or anything. They have the winning card and every engagement has the potential to be a nuclear standoff. And in a nuclear standoff, either someone backs down, or there are two countries throwing nuclear weapons at each other.

So no the utter lunatics can ask for anything they want with a threat of nuclear war if they are refused. Do you think they would hesitate to go that far? How sure are you?

There is a reason the policy on Iran developing these weapons has been the way it is for many decades.

Imagine if America and the U.K. had not intervened when the nazis tried to exterminate whole groups of people. Or do you think we should have just let them get on with it too?

You’re an absolute moron.
The US and Israel are doing all of the above, promoting terrorism, undermining freedom and democracy. They are the ones killing thousands of civilians.

Exactly. Why rally Iran to get to that.