To think the US was right to bomb Iran? What am I missing?

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I am no fan of Trump. I’m very much left wing.

But am I missing something here? Why has everyone become such huge supporters of Iran? The world is a safer place as a result of removing their capability to develop nuclear weapons? Why is everyone carrying on like Iran is a victim and they were truly just trying to implement peaceful nuclear capabilities? Has everyone lost the plot?

He's bombing a country OP. That's not wildly inaccurate.

Because they don’t have nuclear weapons.

What on earth are you talking about? What do you mean by ‘war with Eurasia’? We’re part of Eurasia. And what does East Asia have to do with any of this?

No point posting anything here as you are just being accused of being a supporter of the Iranian regime if you don’t agree with last nights attack.

Because bombing the middle east to achieve peace hasn't worked so far and I don't think will work now. The new right wing position is one of less intervention in international affairs and leaving other nations alone, even if they don't run the way we might like.

Nothing to do with authoritarian regimes and religious fanaticism then?

Are you talking about Iran or the USA?

Because negotiation is better than blowing shit up. Because this is going to do nothing to defuse the situation. Because creating a bunch more dead bodies for people to point to in order to encourage revenge is stupid. Because "I'm going to kill you before you do something I think you might do" is a very dubious legal or moral standpoint to exist in.

Finally, there's something you seem to be struggling to understand but that is very important: questioning the wisdom of this particular act is not the same as condoning everything Iran is doing. I don't want Iran to have nuclear weapons. But it's fair to question whether the ends justify these particular means.

Well given my 2 degrees in international law I'd start with the fact that both Israel and the US bombing Iran is a breach of international law.

You can't bomb people because they might in the future do something bad. Just like you can't arrest people because they might in the future commit a crime.

When influential nations ignore international law we all become less safe because countries with different moral values to our own then act to defend themselves.

It you are bombed and bomb back to stop your own country being bombed that is self defence in international law.

There is no right to pre emptive self defence.

https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2025/06/un-experts-condemn-israeli-attack-iran-and-urge-end-hostilities

Do you see what Israel has done to Gaza over the last 20 months? With American support and weapons. Shame on anyone who turns a blind eye and wants the carnage to spread. I hope that whatever you wish for the people of Iran comes back on you and your family

Are you actually suggesting the USA is more of a threat to the UK than Iran?

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Don't fund and train fundamentalists, interfere with democratically elected leaders, kills millions of people and occupy countries in the ME and then complain they're radicalised.

Bombing people and places doesn’t work

but it can lead to escalating violence killing more and more people

it will certainly turn more people from neutral to anti USA and anti west

it will encourage Iran to develop weapons to defend themselves ( because not even Isreal can say Iran went first on this )

how can anyone thing violence is a good idea? Do you bring your chikdren up to be violent ? To hurt and kill people they don’t like or are scared of? Why is it different because you are grown up? Because someone says so?

Contrarianism is for teenagers. Grow up.

For starters, Iran is constantly detaining British citizens and British-Iranian dual nationals on completely fraudulent spying charges at the drop of a hat, for years on end. Have you forgotten what they did to Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe?

That seems quite common on mn.

This is a conspiracy theory. It’s not true.

Of course they are more of a threat to the entire world. USA will bring the UK, Australia and any European country stupid enough to go along with it into another bloody, drawn out war with no winners, only human and environmental destruction. Will that be good for your economy? Or any young men you know who will end up with lifelong mental illness if they are lucky enough to be physically unscathed?

I'm not sure (well I am really) I'd put Trump at the top of my list of people to have the power to blow up the world.

Because, OP, as you can see, they don't actually know anything about the history of the current policies about Iran, either in the US or the west more generally, nor do they know anything about how the situation with nuclear weapons evolved through the 20th century. The Cold War and it's end seem to have passed them by completely.

They are so affected by Trump Derangement Syndrome that they cannot see that the actions of Harris, had she won, would have been very similar if not identical.

There are a lot of people who only seem to be able to look at politics from the POV of the last 5 minutes, and intense tribalism. One lady I know just told me recently that I apparently support genocide and am anti-Muslim. Three years ago she's have told me with equal sincerity I was antisemitic. The Israelis are bad, the Palestinians good, and Iran hates the former and funds Hamas, so they must therefore be good.

Because it hasn’t had one to use!!!

Well exactly. Which is why the US had no legitimate reason to bomb Iran.

You think Iran, which is run by lunatics, is not going to retaliate?

Where can I find the security briefing which said it wasn’t a threat?

Who are the real terrorists and hostile nations?

Is it not the US, UK and Israel?

It was a 1984 reference. Good book, highly recommend.