To think the US was right to bomb Iran? What am I missing?

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I am no fan of Trump. I’m very much left wing.

But am I missing something here? Why has everyone become such huge supporters of Iran? The world is a safer place as a result of removing their capability to develop nuclear weapons? Why is everyone carrying on like Iran is a victim and they were truly just trying to implement peaceful nuclear capabilities? Has everyone lost the plot?

What similarities are there between Iraq, Afghanistan and Iran? Why was it wrong to remove Iran’s nuclear capabilities?

This might well have been an Iraq style WMD situation, where the country's leaders were all talk and leaving cardboard cut outs of weapons out in full view

We only have Iran's say so that they were not producing nuclear weapons and we only have USA and Israel saying Iran was

Both countries have an agenda against Iran

There is nothing stopping Iran from blowing Israel into oblivion with standard weapons

Shiite Iran may not have many friends in the mainly Sunni Middle East, but that won't stop many, very rich countries siding against Israel

This was a lousy move by an idiot, fanatic and bigot

You do get that air strikes and invasions are different things, right? The US has bombed Iran from the air. They have not invaded Iran.

Like that matters.

If you don’t know about the executive, legislative, and judicial branches then this isn’t the thread for you.

What do you think the US developed Nuclear weapons for? I wouldn't be at all surprised if he presses that button first. The utter sycophancy all over SM is repulsive. People likening him to God. He's an absolute scrotum and this will be just one of the many attacks.

I cannot believe people here are supporting Iran because Trump crazy and orange man bad. You think that a genocidal death cult that murders its own citizens in the name of Allah and Mohammed should have access to nuclear weapons?? FFS.

Indeed. An unstable part of the world. A hostile state. An enemy of the UK. Why is everyone opposed to the US putting an end to them having nuclear capabilities?

Iran isn't my enemy. Stop drinking the American KoolAid. I thought we were at war with Eurasia, or is it East Asia.

Iran has never used a nuclear weapon to bomb another country.

This is wildly inaccurate. There has been no invasion. You do understand that, surely?

No. The fact that you don’t know this yet seem to have a very strong opinion on the matter is frightening.

I think you can argue both sides.

But I think it’s frankly stupid to suggest that thinking it wasn’t sensible to bomb them is the same as being a huge supporter of the regime.

The ME is unstable because of Western interference and Israel currently bombing them. People are against states going rogue, ignoring international law, turning the world into the wild west and stirring up another hornet's nest.

It’s good that Trump had sent a message that he’s in the game and the west is not to be fucked with. I don’t know what all the kumbya pacifists think would happen if nutjobs like the Iranian regime were to wield ultimate power. And let’s not forget their lovely chums novochok-happy-Putin and the sneekily-take-over-and-enslave-Chinese.

These are not reasonable, rational, democratically elected politicians. These regimes are headed up by power-mad murderers and despots. If someone like Trump can give them a bloody nose and tell them to pipe down - then good.

Iran has said that they were developing nuclear capabilities.

There is something stopping Iran obliterating Israel - the USA.

You are very much right OP, you either side with a flawed democracy or you side with tyranny - ignore the whataboutery.

I detest Trump but I think he’s done the right thing.
Iran is responsible for a huge amount of terrorism around the world and treats its own citizens in horrific ways, (including beating women unconscious for not wearing a fucking head covering.)
It’s also the right time to bomb them as Russia is otherwise engaged in Ukraine and China is hoping to invade Taiwan anytime soon so they have their eye on other things.

I doubly very much there will be any ground invasion, there will of course be repercussions from Iran, but nothing in the same league as the capabilities of a nuclear bomb.

So because the US developed weapons in the 40s any hostile state should be allowed to develop them now?

This thread has got me thinking. Why is Iran our enemy? We are always told that they are, but now that I think about it I don't know why. I know that the regime there is not good (understatement), but why specifically are they the enemy of the UK?

Also, I thought it was illegal to attack another country? Or is it only illegal to invade them? Surely attacking them from the air is an act of war?

Trump doesnt like NATO or the UN, which are the mechanisms for dealing with rogue states, he does like unilaterally acting how ever he wants. Even when its unconstitutional. Because he’s a warmongering thug and a bully and if you think these actions are about removing a nuclear threat (that they have used for over 30 years as a stick to scare the american electorate) and not about lining the pockets of his weapon selling buddies and upping the cost of oil for his pal vlad, then youre the useful idiot you decry.

I think people dislike Trump so automatically decide that Iran is their friend.

Whereas in the lands of reality, is offered the choice between being dropped into the US without a passport and needing to seek their help, or Iran without a passport and having to seek their help, they’re take the US 100% of the time.

And it definitely won't lead the world any closer to war 🙄

And how well have those been working? Where is congressional approval of this strike?

Iran is a stare i have no desire to ever visit, I think the way women and girls have been treated is outrageous, and I would welcome a change of regime there- but this must come from within.

The security briefings that were given in America before this, said that the nuclear program was not a threat. There was no need to get involved at this point. Trump is such a God awful fuckwit of a president, he decided to attack anyway.

Despite Hegswoths assurances that this was the bigliest bestest attack ever in the history of American attacks, there has been no increase in nuclear levels in the areas hit. This would be expected if a nuclear arsenal had actually been hit.

Iran and their allies will retaliate. I hope those cheering on these attacks are prepared for the repercussions. It's made a bad situation worse.

I know of them of course. Don’t be so condescending. You’re the one playing dumb and asking what could possibly go wrong with the USA starting another war in the Middle East that will bring nothing but death and destruction and making weapons companies obscene amounts of money. What I mean to say is that the USA doesn’t actually have those checks and balances that you speak of. The president can start a war and use nuclear weapons. I’m in Australia and our PM can also bring us to war with no authorisation from the Parliament. Do you not see Iranians as human beings? What gives Israel and America the right to bomb a sovereign country? Because we don’t like them? The media has done their job and paved the way for mindless numnuts like you to go along with it. Do you not see the videos out of Gaza? Are USA and Israel moral actors to you? FFS