The US has bombed Fordow and other sites.

[MistressoftheDarkSide]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2025/jun/22/israel-iran-war-live-trump-says-us-has-attacked-nuclear-sites-in-iran-including-fordow

I have no idea what you're going on about, the strikes were very precise against the nuclear facilities, no one was killed.

And yes I have regard for people living their lives in countries like Iran just as I also have regard for people trying to live their lives in countries affected by the Iranian regime. Yeah let's allow the Ayatollah who has declared that he hates the US, Israel the west and wants to attack them to have a nuclear weapon. That's makes absolute sense right?

Did you have the same regard for the people who were killed by Hamas in an attack funded by Iran? The many people killed by Hezbollah, Hamas and the Houthis all funded by Iran? You do realize that Iran has caused the death of many people in the Middle East as well and this is not just an issue with the US or Israel? There are middle eastern countries who also oppose Iran having a nuclear weapon because it will destabilize the delicate balance in the middle east. Once Iran gets a nuclear weapon Saudi Arabia have also declared that they will pursue one too so this is not joey about Iran.

You do realize that Iran played a huge role supporting Assad in Syria to brutalize his own people???? You sit here portraying the Iranian regime like a peace seeking loving regime, they are murderous terrorist sponsor government who suppress and brutalize their own citizens and have no issue organizing attacks to kill their enemies or disrupting commercial shopping through the use of the Houthis.

Are you aware of Iran's role disrupting life in Yemen with their support and funding of the Houthis?

It's interesting how many people are supportive of the evil Iranian regime.

So yes I have regard for them and wish this can be sorted out peacefully but unfortunately that's easier said than done. If all it took was to virtue signal on mumsnet we would have world peace now wouldn't we?

Trump gave Iran many opportunities to come to the table and they kept stonewalling so this is all on the murderous evil Iranian regime and yes the world is a better place without their nuclear capabilities.

And you do? 😂

As I said I wish this can be sorted out peacefully but unfortunately that's up to the Iranian regime.

Even Iranians are against the evil regime that you are supporting and trying to protect.

You don't care what atrocities the regime commits against Iranians as long as you can pretend you care.

I should be asking you what you're on about supporting a murderous terrorist sponsoring regime.

Whilst well intentioned, the solution isn't to do nothing because that will lead to bigger issues later down the line. As I said Trump gave Iran many opportunities to reach a deal and they refused.

Can you quote where I did that? What are you on about?

Previously, I was genuinely interested in your opinion as to why you are so worried about the nuclear threat from Iran. I asked why this was and what information you were relying upon to have formed this view. You couldn't name one person. You have also stated that regime change isn't wanted, without stating that you actually mean that this is the statement that the US have issued today (which I'm sure many of us are aware of). You don't seem to have considered the consequences of this attack. If you have, you haven't stated any of them.
I hope that is clear enough now.

By claiming that I don't care about people in the Middle East because I agree that striking Iran's nuclear facility this point was the right decision is ridiculous, virtue signalling and bullshit.

As I said I wished it could be resolved peacefully but that's wishful thinking. That's like wishing the Russia Ukraine war could be resolved quickly so there shouldn't be any retaliation or actions against Russia. That doesn't mean I don't care for the average Russian but unfortunately actions must be taken.

It’s you doing the virtue signalling. The Iranian people couldn’t give a shit if you feel sorry for them. Just leave them be.

Ok it’s a combination of people that I heard today. No I didn’t think I must write down each name as they conclude the interview for @rainingsnoring

A mix of NATO, security, military and Iranian embassy from memory.

It’s far better you just listen and you can make up your own mind, listen to them and decide what you think.

And as is said Trump gave them every opportunity and even CNN who hate Trump acknowledge that he wanted a diplomatic solution: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2025/06/12/politics/trump-israel-iran-strike-us-diplomacy

Even your UK government can see that stopping Iran getting their hands on a nuclear weapon is a good thing.:

"The business secretary, Jonathan Reynolds, told Sky News that while the UK had preferred a different path, the outcome was in British interests. “We support the prevention of Iran obtaining a nuclear weapon. We had proposed a diplomatic course of action, as other European countries had done; the Iranians had rejected that."

"Keir Starmer has warned of a “risk of escalation” in the Middle East and beyond as a result of the US bombing of Iran, but said he backed the strike on Iran’s nuclear facilities and called on Tehran to return to negotiations."

Where is your outrage at the Iranian regime?

Unfortunately the Iranian government will not be allowed a nuclear weapon so shil I feel sorry for the Iranian people, the world will be worse off if we allow the Ayatollah and his evil regime to get their hands on a nuclear weapon and it will kick off a nuclear arms race in the middle easts starting with Saudi Arabia.

@DomPom47
So clearly explained, quite a shame we don't have you in the UN. Who have been amazingly quiet while all is exploding around us.

The sad thing is unlike in the playground, people have died, people's lives and infrastructure have been ruined. Simply, because world leaders refuse to use their words.

Worst of all, more people will die and suffer as a result of this unnecessary activity.

Whilst, some idiots will feel the unwarranted destruction of another's property in their sovereign nation is somewhat justified, because their ill-informed 'leaders' say so on of made-up facts to justify their actions.

History will judge us all.

Genuinely curious—what specific opportunities do you think Trump offered Iran to reach a deal? As I've already said it was Trump that unilaterally withdrew from the JCPOA and his so-called maximum pressure campaign hasn't been viewed by many as following a diplomatic strategy? Also, what are your thoughts on the recent analysis that bombing Iran’s nuclear facilities may actually complicate non-proliferation efforts rather than help them? It’s important to note that none of the sites bombed by the US were secret—they were all under IAEA monitoring and safeguarding.

Hence why I call you a supporter of an evil terrorist supporting regime.

Didn’t take you long to show your true colours, eh?

Thank you.
I have listened to multiple sources and made up my mind! I continue to listen to information, especially since the Israelis attacked Iran.

Here is a BBC source from today for you who suggests that this Israeli and US attacks on Iran will only increase the Iranian's determination and the likelihood of them acquiring a nuclear weapon. This is what I suggested was most likely earlier on. All I have been saying, in your response to your posts, is that this is not a clear cut situation. In my opinion, there is next to no chance of a quick 'in and out' with no retaliation. On the contrary, it is much, much more likely to make things worse, embolden the Iranians and lead to regional and potentially spreading violence and attacks.
https://x.com/WorldAffairsPro/status/1936685552549454050

It's notable that there has still not been any keynote condemning comment from either Russia or China to either this Israel/Iran war or this US strike.

CNN had published a preview of what is actually happening back in May, though I do not recall seeing it then.
Nobody within the public can know the full truth, because they have used contradictory statements and actions. US Intelligence says no imminent risk, then yes, then no, then yes... how can we make any sense of it?

www.cnn.com/2025/05/20/politics/intelligence-israel-possible-strike-iran-nuclear-facilities

Also, what is all this evil versus good childish view on things.
None of them is any good. And if you cannot see it, then you need glasses.

I'm not sure what "economic destruction you refer to?

She means the rise in our fuel and goods prices, which we can hardly afford.
So other possible sources of energy and fuel may mitigate the hit.

This was written 7 months ago and explains why Iran could close the straits of Hormuz but probably won't ;

https://www.forbes.com/sites/gauravsharma/2024/11/07/strait-of-hormuz-why-iran-wont-harm-critical-oil-shipping-route/

@mrsrtobinson Thanks. I know about Hormuz. Whether they will fully close it or make a show of it, we shall see.

Trump is the cause of this situation. Once he chose to withdraw from JPCOA, Iran started to incrementally breach the deal
Then, in 2020, the US assassinated an Iranian Major General and later that year Israel assassinated an Iranian nuclear scientist.
There was no 'better deal' Only a long game played by two madmen.
Before the second assassination, Tehran indicated they'd return to the former agreement if sanctions were lifted. Nope, can't have that 🙄

So you have a genocidal despot and Mango Mussolini who have both caused this situation. It's never about what they actually SAY it's about though, we understand that, surely? They have their very own triple axis, just as evil as the last one we saw.
People who are able to deny or justify genocide probably aren't the best ones to engage with as they tie themselves in knots to 'explain' away the murder of so many woman and children like it's just another day at the Strip.

Let's not also forget that Iran will be quite aware of what happened when the Ukraine agreed to give up their nukes by the US, Russia and all other parties involved. They were promised protection which seemed to work out well.. NOT

There is absolutely no way I want Iran to have nuclear weapons though but we certainly wouldn't be at this point without these madmen stoking the fires