Showing support for terrorism is illegal so why do people do it?

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Well we all know it's illegal, don't we?

It happens though. The flags, the signs, the slogans, the chants, what is said etc.

Kneecap was charged on supporting terrorism. I understand that the charges relate to things like waving the Hezbollah flag and shouting in support of terrorist organisations.

He has been bailed pending trial.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy4k4xnlj8qo

But I asked you.

You mean why do so many people have different rules for Israel? As I said, you will find the echo chamber where I previously said.

The calculated use of violence or threat of violence to inculcate fear. Terrorism is intended to coerce or intimidate governments or societies in the pursuit of goals that are generally political, religious, or ideological.

Oxford dictionary definition.

We do have laws in the UK which define what type of acts are terrorism eg bombing an arena at a music concert is terrorism and not freedom fighting.

Supporting people who carry out those acts or encouraging those types of acts is supporting terrorism.

Yes I would. He was not fighting a war. He did not attack a military or government target. Someone who blows up an arena full of people watching a pop concert is definitely a terrorist. But the line is not always so clear.

You don't tend to get people shouting support for Bloody Sunday at concerts. Thankfully the Good Friday agreement brought peace to Northern Ireland.

The calculated use of violence or threat of violence to inculcate fear. Terrorism is intended to coerce or intimidate governments or societies in the pursuit of goals that are generally political, religious, or ideological.

And this is the problem with that defenition. In 1940, the French resistance would be classed as terrorists. So would the IRA. Both were using violence against the government of the day to achieve political aims (to remove that government from what they considered their country under occupation).

I would call him a terrorist and I would say that anyone supporting him or those types of actions are terrorist supporters.

I had a relative who supported a ‘terrorist’ group many years ago. He thought of them as freedom fighters.

That is the basic answer, as PP have pointed out. People have their own views about who or what constitutes terrorism and it doesn’t always or necessarily align with the State.

The thing is, we are part of a state with laws and therefore either committing acts of terrorism or showing support for terrorists groups are illegal. Assuming we want to live in a country that has laws then encouraging or supporting terrorists is illegal.

Oh well, I'm sure when he turns up to court, the usual 'peaceful' protestors will be there with their chants. I'm delighted to see him being made an example of.

Are you really young?

This is such a MN cliche - but what are you hoping to get from this thread OP?

Simply stating your 'simple facts' over and over again with no interest in anyone who disagrees gives the impression you just want a row.

I beg to differ! You most certainly do get people shouting stuff about Bloody Sunday and other atrocities at concerts and many loyalists flags! I’ve seen it at Snow Patrol

Go into most towns in the North of Ireland now and they are covered in loyalist paramilitary flags ready for the marching season. They burn Irish flags, images of the pope and images of our Irish MPs on bonfires.

I'm asking questions about things that some people think are ok eg showing support for a terrorist organisation, saying 'Kill your MP' and the crowd repeating various incitement to violence type slogans.

It ids apparent on social media that some people feel showing support for terrorists is ok. I'm asking why some people think it is ok. It is more apparent that some people think showing support for terrorist organisations or as some might call them 'freedom fighters' is ok. I personally don't think support for terrorists is ok. I'm asking why some think it is. It is illegal, hence the charges.

Thank you for sharing that. Is that in Ireland since you don't see that in mainland UK, England, Scotland and Wales.

Yes, I know it’s illegal. People DO do illegal things. And if they do, they run the risk of being caught and punished. For some people, they feel this is a risk worth taking.

This isn’t really news to anyone, is it?

How is asking questions about why some people support terrorists starting a row. I'm interested in why people might recite what someone else chants, join in with promotion of terrorism etc. It's seen a lot on social media. Is it mainly younger people. I'm interested. You might not be and that's ok.

You see loyalist flags all over parts of Glasgow and further afield.

Did it ? Do you think the GF agreement brought an end to Sectarian Violence in NI ?

Had you not thought about the fact that an Irish-language West Belfast Gaeltacht hip-hop group called after an IRA punishment, and who say that if you do hip-hop and no one’s getting outraged, you’re not doing it right, might just be trundling along in the long tradition of popular music and provocation?

People break many laws.

People supporting terrorism, what would they say to families involved in say the Manchester bombing, would they say well he's a freedom fighter? I cannot imagine actually saying to a victim of a terrorist that they were freedom fighters. To me no bombing is ok.

Well it's much better than before the GF agreement. Progress has been made.

They support terrorists because they align with thier cause.

Nelson Mandela was imprisoned as a Terrorist, but lots of people in this country, and around the world supported him.

Should it be that, because one country deems a person or organisation as “terrorist” that people should not align or support them? What if the country (or regime) that labels the “terrorist” is itself corrupt?

I’m asking if you’re young because you seem completely under-informed about the social and political environment Kneecap are from. And the fact that the GFA only happened because people negotiated with terrorists.