To say that most heavy duty physical labour is done by men? When was the last time a female plumber, builder, roofer,painter and decorator, drain unblocker, or boiler or washing machine engineer came to your house?

[YourAmplePlumPoster]

To say that most heavy duty physical labour is done by men?

I’m sorry to hear they were treated that way. That does need to improve and maybe in time it will if more women go into manual trades like bricklaying and tiling and scaffolding. It’s a slow burn like any aspect of feminist change.
It’s excellent to see so many women high up in engineering, construction management etc. there are many and equality is growing here.
But @YourAmplePlumPoster is correct. There aren’t many ‘on the tools’ as it’s called around here. And we shouldn’t denigrate the excellent men who do this work wonderfully

I have not read one post in this thread where anyone is denigrating the men who do these jobs.

I saw someone saying they do them as they’re too thick to do anything else. I found that fairly denigrating tbh

They are though. They do it through horrific sexist intimidation when women try to break into those jobs. Maybe because they feel threatened. This is why there are such things as women only plumbing/elecgtrician etc. companies. I posted links showing clear evidence that this is how men behave towards women going into the skilled trades. That isn't denigration, it is sad fact.

Who says the female partners aren't working and providing exactly the same level of income? Your ideas of gender roles really are stuck in the 1950s.

Yes, I saw that post and vehemently disagree with it.

I went to the Gwaith Merched (Women's Work) exhibition at the National Waterfront Museum in Swansea today. It's got several women doing jobs like plastering, bricklaying, tree surgery, prison warden. It was contrasted with photos of women from the late 19th and 20th centuries working in tin works and copper works and other factories in the area. Basically showing women do and have always done, heavy physical work.

You sound go and see it, @YourAmplePlumPoster - I'm sure they'd welcome your feedback. It's on till the end of summer.

https://museum.wales/swansea/whatson/12520/Gwaith-Merched/

Yes. That’s all good. Kids used to work in mills and go up chimneys back then too. OP was talking about And they are rare.

Im absolutely not saying women can’t do these jobs. Many do. As exemplified by many posts. They just don’t tend to as a long term career option.

Yeah true. Im out. You’ve all convinced me that men are a bunch of pricks and if they all died we’d just crack on with the house building, road laying, train track maintenance, going down a hole to sort out someone’s misuse of the sewerage system.

Yes. That’s all good. Kids used to work in mills and go up chimneys back then too. OP was talking about And they are rare.

The main part of the exhibition is about women doing "men's" jobs now - plastering, building, tree surgery, farming, blacksmithing, prison warding were the ones they interviewed. The point about also having historical examples is women doing physical work is nothing new.

Thank you. I have a friend in that part of the world so will go and see it. Thanks for the heads up. Sounds really interesting 🤔 👌

I agree, cringe

Also reminded of my first job on a fruit farm at 12 where I started work at 7am and worked u til 7pm at 12 years old picking punnets of strawberries and raspberries for 10p a punnet in all weathers, porta toilet, lunch was a roll in an old loaf bag.

Or my autumn jobs picking potatoes for whole days of everyday of my Halloween school holidays and all through autumn weekends. Again for all daylight hours.

All as a 12 yr old girl onwards and I wonder why a building site would be harder