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People are just vile

212 replies

holymoly56 · 13/06/2025 16:25

Numerous stories about the tragic air India crash all over my socials at the moment. The comments sections are fucking grim. Racist jokes, racist comments, conspiracy theories about the sole survivor, not to mention the gutter press posting photos and names presumably before passengers have been formally identified and families informed.

It’s as though people have become so detached from reality they just don’t care. The fact so many people actually died in such a horrible way seems to be lost on them. No sympathy, not even a respectful silence…they all just want to stick their two penneth in. It’s really bothered me today.

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Etheral · 13/06/2025 18:09

You probably just need to read the newspapers instead, no comments on those, I use PressReader, it's free from the library

FirenzeFirenze · 13/06/2025 18:10

Totally agree OP.

I have just deleted the Mail On Line app because of this.

I’m ashamed to say I occasionally have the urge to read trashy, showbiz articles on this app. (Sorry but I have said I’m ashamed).

However, the comment sections are so hateful in all the ways you describe, that my life is enriched now I’ve deleted it. I was getting so upset by people’s comments and now I’m free from it all.

SapporoBaby · 13/06/2025 18:10

The ‘gutter press’ does generally check that family has been informed before posting names and faces. It’s in the Ethics Code.

feellikeanalien · 13/06/2025 18:10

It's true that social media makes it so much worse. I remember some pretty sick jokes being made at the time of the bombing of the Grand Hotel in Brighton during the Tory conference. The only difference was that there was no social media to spread it and to encourage others to do the same.

Slight derail but I was reading an article in the Times today about benefit cuts and the comments were really nasty. I always thought that the Times was a bit more balanced in the comments section but the comments without exception were making incredibly nasty generalisations about people on sickness benefits.

mambojambodothetango · 13/06/2025 18:10

Jonny234 · 13/06/2025 18:06

If you follow the right accounts racism is almost non existent. Maybe an odd stupid random comment in the replies by attention seekers but that's about it.

I maintain the worst are the woke left, 100%. It's currently in the process of eating itself.

What are the 'right accounts'? And, without wishing to encourage you further, if the left is racist, what does that make the right?

twilightermummy · 13/06/2025 18:11

@Jonny234 What is there to discuss? What is there to agree to disagree on? People have died in a terrifying way. There should only be one way to view such a tragedy.

Etheral · 13/06/2025 18:11

Maybe don't use Facebook

sandrapinchedmysandwich · 13/06/2025 18:13

WallaceinAnderland · 13/06/2025 17:21

Your algorithms will decide what you see.

Odfod. These are posts in response to news sites. The algorithm will therefore show that the op watches the news. Stop insinuating something that isn't there.

Jonny234 · 13/06/2025 18:17

twilightermummy · 13/06/2025 18:11

@Jonny234 What is there to discuss? What is there to agree to disagree on? People have died in a terrifying way. There should only be one way to view such a tragedy.

100% there is only one view.

But unfortunately we live in the world we do and none of us can legislate for other people's vile behaviour. Sometimes in life you just have to accept some people are what they are, ignore them and move on.

WestwardHo1 · 13/06/2025 18:20

YANBU. I've steered well clear of comments sections today for this reason. They disgust me.

People have always been racist but they've been emboldened in recent years. IMO it started with Brexit and it's been gathering pace ever since.

Keepingittogetherstepbystep · 13/06/2025 18:30

Some people are just abhorrent buts it's not a recent thing.

I visited the war grave of a relative about 15 years ago and the comments in the memorial book were horrible. It was a struggle to read the crap.

TooSquaretobehip · 13/06/2025 18:31

Arealnumber · 13/06/2025 16:59

I haven’t seen anything like this at all. I’m primarily on X, but also Facebook & read The Times. Where are you hanging out?!

Someone on twitter posted facebook 'laughs' on an article about the crash. I hadn't heard about the conflict between India and Pakistan, I don't pay as much attention to international politics as I should but someone posted 3 screenshots of the couple of hundred facebook names that had the 'laugh' emoticon on the story. Most of them were Pakistan accounts. I could not comprehend that. And I existed out of the screenshots pretty quickly because I didn't want to spend too much time thinking about it. It was horrific. So many people can't put themselves in place of these people who died on the plane. One of them who died on that plane was a relative of a friend of mine. It really wasn't good for my health to look at those laugh emoticons too long.

lifeonmars100 · 13/06/2025 18:34

I have not looked at the comments, sadly I know that there will be some vile racist stuff in there. It is an incomprehensible tragedy, so many familes grieving for loved ones and that man who was the sole survivor will be forever traumatised. Why people lack the basic empathy to think "how would I feel if that had happened to my realtive or friend" is a mystery to me

EasternStandard · 13/06/2025 18:34

I’ve avoided most of this. I find it hard to contemplate how scared they must have been.

HarperStern · 13/06/2025 18:35

I have only followed this story on specialist aviation forums and it is striking that on every thread Indian posters come on to thank everyone for not making racist comments, as they are seeing them on all other news sources. It really is widespread, and abhorrent.

ilovesooty · 13/06/2025 18:39

Jonny234 · 13/06/2025 17:28

The point to note is the tolerant left is anything but. Woke lefty channels and platforms like the BBC, Sky, Ch4 news, Facebook spew out propoganda rather than news and attracts the worst. This is why they are all slowly dying.

X is circa 50/50 left and right and people can have a genuine discussion and if necessary agree to disagree.

FFS. Someone just has to shoehorn in stuff about the "woke left" at every opportunity, whether it's related to the thread topic or not.

anotherside · 13/06/2025 18:39

Jonny234 · 13/06/2025 17:28

The point to note is the tolerant left is anything but. Woke lefty channels and platforms like the BBC, Sky, Ch4 news, Facebook spew out propoganda rather than news and attracts the worst. This is why they are all slowly dying.

X is circa 50/50 left and right and people can have a genuine discussion and if necessary agree to disagree.

Ahh yes, Sky which is owned by that well know lefty Rupert Murdoch. FFS the utter crap people spout. 😂

lifeonmars100 · 13/06/2025 18:41

I do think that anonymity means that people can give full rein to their vileness and they feel safe to say things that if spoken aloud in public they would rightly be condemed. I despair for the world sometimes

ButteredRadish · 13/06/2025 18:42

Just had this exact conversation with my mum. Some of the stuff I’ve read is directly out of Nazi germany and sadly, I’m not exaggerating. Genuinely that calibre of abuse

dynamiccactus · 13/06/2025 18:44

I've not seen anything and in fact this is the first thread I've seen on MN, I'd assumed they were zapping them all.

It's interesting the Times has mainly kept comments switched off, but maybe that was more to do with compromising any investigation.

What I did think was if it's not your time, it's not your time - the guy who survived and without much in the way of injuries was a miracle although he may not necessarily feel that way as his brother died.

LindorDoubleChoc · 13/06/2025 18:47

I've just glanced at social media about it and as well as the horrific racism there is also Jurassic Age homophobia about one photo of a married male couple. Entirely predictable Sad.

I feel I need to leave it well alone. I don't know anyone affected and my sorrow for all the lost souls goes without saying. I don't need to make a comment on FB or Insta about it, it's just pointless.

I avoided the Jeremy Vine show yesterday because I knew I would find it too much. And yet, today, again the whole first hour was dedicated to this accident - this time dressed up as a phone-in about individuals who just narrowly missed an event like this. If BBC Radio 2 are happy to milk it for all it's worth, are they really any better than "the socials"? I don't know.

godmum56 · 13/06/2025 18:48

Ddakji · 13/06/2025 17:29

Yes, people are vile but it sounds like your feed needs addressing.

I am on FB only and haven't seen anything like that.

MadameCholetsDirtySecret · 13/06/2025 18:48

This makes me even more happy I don’t engage with any social media.

holymoly56 · 13/06/2025 18:49

lifeonmars100 · 13/06/2025 18:41

I do think that anonymity means that people can give full rein to their vileness and they feel safe to say things that if spoken aloud in public they would rightly be condemed. I despair for the world sometimes

It’s not even anonymous, it’s their full names and photos of themselves! Unless some are using burner accounts but that can’t be all.

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WooleyMunky · 13/06/2025 18:57

holymoly56 · 13/06/2025 17:11

Mostly Facebook where the overwhelming number of comments on news articles have been fucking gross. I just can’t understand how are there are so many people who would respond publicly to a tragedy like this with sick jokes and racist comments.

Musk, Zuck, and the Digger are only after the clickbait, what do you expect