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AIBU?

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To think this is immature ?

245 replies

HockeyMum1996 · 06/06/2025 16:23

My sister’s 17 year son has just dropped out of an A Level course and he has a full time job atm.

Both my sis and my BIL are very well educated, upper middle class professionals- both did A levels, went to uni, worked hard and have now both got senior roles.

My sister clearly isn’t happy that her son left school, and when I went round her house for Sunday Lunch she’d had a few drinks and said in an angry, drunken voice that one of the ladies at church who has a son in the same school year as my nephew, said “I’m sorry for what’s happened” - ie my nephew leaving school. She went on to criticise nephew’s character saying he “couldn’t stick at anything and is hopeless”

my nephew could hear all this and was in the next room.

truth is, my nephew hated school and is much happier in work

AIBU to that sister’s being unreasonable?

my nephew dropped out of A levels - but I feel my sister can’t just scold him because of what another woman said in church ?

my sister has form for being immature abd a bit intolerant of differences

OP posts:
Nevertea · 08/06/2025 15:27

HockeyMum1996 · 08/06/2025 15:18

I’d been invited for a rare Sunday lunch

So you presumably very rarely actually see your sister
or indeed her interaction with her son

Nevertea · 08/06/2025 15:28

I do wonder often why my BIL is still with my sister. He can’t be happy surely with the way she behaves I mean in general her behaviour can be summed up as a drunk fuelled

you have just said your very rarely are invited around

and yet op… you seem to have a very definitive view on precisely what is going on in this family. And it’s all about your sister being in the wrong.

UnicornBubble · 08/06/2025 15:38

As someone who is academically gifted, despised school and has A-Levels/Degree/Masters etc - qualifications are not the be all and end all!!

my husband had pretty rubbish grades at GCSE’s, failed to fully qualify for his apprenticeship because the company went into liquidation and yet has gone onto to “learn on the job” and is in a senior level, skilled job, that earns twice as much as little ‘ol me with my degree and multitude of mental health struggles!

Secondary school “education” can have a severe negative impact on mental health, and believe me once you’ve spiralled down that slope, it is much more difficult to get back to your best self.

Protect his mental health!!
Education, qualifications, can be done at any time!! And that’s if he even ends up needing them!!

DeftLemonTraybake · 08/06/2025 15:39

Nevertea · 08/06/2025 15:28

I do wonder often why my BIL is still with my sister. He can’t be happy surely with the way she behaves I mean in general her behaviour can be summed up as a drunk fuelled

you have just said your very rarely are invited around

and yet op… you seem to have a very definitive view on precisely what is going on in this family. And it’s all about your sister being in the wrong.

Indeed..

MrsSkylerWhite · 08/06/2025 15:42

TheAmusedQuail · 08/06/2025 15:03

Who wouldn't be disappointed with their child effectively wrecking their life chances, at 17? Plenty of children would love to be in the position to have those choices available to them.

No, your sister isn't immature or unreasonable. She is upset at him effectively giving up at 17. Not so bad if he'd got another plan, but working part-time in a pub isn't changing direction, it's accepting minimum wage with no route out of it.

I think the woman at church is a red herring.

Edited

How on earth do you know the boy is wrecking his life chances?

Many entrepreneurs don’t finish their education.

This nation (assuming UK) is unhealthily obsessed with academia. It’s just not for some (very bright) people.

FedupofArsenalgame · 08/06/2025 15:45

Nevertea · 08/06/2025 15:03

What kinds of Jobs are they in @FedupofArsenalgame now? And how old?

21 just finished 3rd year at uni so graduation ceremony later this year. Still doing the part time ( 30 hours) job as hotel duty manager he's done for last 18 months while looking for a different job

Nevertea · 08/06/2025 15:47

FedupofArsenalgame · 08/06/2025 15:45

21 just finished 3rd year at uni so graduation ceremony later this year. Still doing the part time ( 30 hours) job as hotel duty manager he's done for last 18 months while looking for a different job

What route did he take to uni?

and your daughter… she never “used” her alevel. What do you mean?

Nevertea · 08/06/2025 15:48

FedupofArsenalgame · 08/06/2025 15:45

21 just finished 3rd year at uni so graduation ceremony later this year. Still doing the part time ( 30 hours) job as hotel duty manager he's done for last 18 months while looking for a different job

He’s been working 30 hours a week and studying for a 3 year uni degree?

FedupofArsenalgame · 08/06/2025 15:48

And DD is 31. She's an area manager for a restaurant chain. Just gone back from ML

FedupofArsenalgame · 08/06/2025 15:49

Nevertea · 08/06/2025 15:48

He’s been working 30 hours a week and studying for a 3 year uni degree?

Yes and doing summers working abroad as well as sports coaching for kids

MrsSkylerWhite · 08/06/2025 15:50

Nevertea · 08/06/2025 15:48

He’s been working 30 hours a week and studying for a 3 year uni degree?

Our son did too. The joys of youth 😁

MrsSkylerWhite · 08/06/2025 15:51

(At 21, I was working full time in the smoke then getting the train home and working in a pub 4 nights each week. Rarely make it to the 10 o clock news these days, don’t work 😁)

Nevertea · 08/06/2025 15:52

FedupofArsenalgame · 08/06/2025 15:49

Yes and doing summers working abroad as well as sports coaching for kids

What degree did he do?!

Hankunamatata · 08/06/2025 15:53

Some parents are never happy. The worst are those who kids don't follow the plan that parents had in their heads.

FedupofArsenalgame · 08/06/2025 15:55

Nevertea · 08/06/2025 15:52

What degree did he do?!

English/film studies combo

HockeyMum1996 · 08/06/2025 15:55

Hankunamatata · 08/06/2025 15:53

Some parents are never happy. The worst are those who kids don't follow the plan that parents had in their heads.

Exactly

OP posts:
scritter · 08/06/2025 15:56

Both me and DH benefited from a good education, university etc. and both did well in demanding professional jobs. I have a 17 year old who is very undecided about their choices right now.

If they chose to switch to work, instead of continuing with A-levels, I would talk it over with them, try to find out whether this new path would be a positive one for them, for now, and then support them completely. I would not be 'disappointed' in them for making a choice that didn't match my expectations.

Education can be life-long. It doesn't have to happen before the age of 18.

spoonbillstretford · 08/06/2025 15:56

YANBU. She should not be saying that about her son as it's unfair and untrue. And if it were, I would not be gossiping to all and sundry about his character, but would address it directly with him.

FedupofArsenalgame · 08/06/2025 15:57

MrsSkylerWhite · 08/06/2025 15:50

Our son did too. The joys of youth 😁

Yeah i was working full time at 17, lived in my own place , doing A levels at evening class and out socially all weekend.

now at 53 I need a bit more chill out time. Although not resorted to being tucked up in bed at 10pm yet lol

LJShaw · 08/06/2025 16:03

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user1476613140 · 08/06/2025 16:05

mummybear35 · 08/06/2025 12:40

Myself and my husband are highly educated, to Masters and PhD levels. I’d be unimpressed if either of my kids dropped out of school, esp without even getting A levels. Maybe another route? Apprenticeship or a company sponsored progression route? The thing is without A levels, many doors already will be closed to him. I’d allow my sister grace to be peeved off, I know I would be and my husband would definitely be as he’s a university professor!

Many plumbers are wealthy and don't require a university qualification to carry out their work. Are they worthless in your eyes?

Honestly what a lot of BS on this thread. I have two uni qualifications under my belt but can recognise that success comes in many forms...be open minded!!

tuvamoodyson · 08/06/2025 16:07

Fingerpie · 06/06/2025 18:21

You wouldn’t care?

well from the perspective of a very high achieving teen DD, I’d be so worried and anxious if she jacked it in half way through for an unskilled NMW job and I think if you had had that experience rather than what sounds like a very very difficult and distressing one @feelingbleh you most definitely would “care”

Yes…but he wasn’t a very high achieving teen.

tuvamoodyson · 08/06/2025 16:10

Frugalgal · 08/06/2025 14:02

Did OP say her sister is an alcoholic?

She said she has an escalating drink problem.

Nevertea · 08/06/2025 16:11

tuvamoodyson · 08/06/2025 16:10

She said she has an escalating drink problem.

Same op who now admits that she very rarely sees her sister

tuvamoodyson · 08/06/2025 16:20

Nevertea · 08/06/2025 16:11

Same op who now admits that she very rarely sees her sister

Maybe because of her escalating drink problem…

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