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To never tell partner I love him?

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Takinitgottobserd · 06/06/2025 14:51

Is it weird? I have never told him I love him, and he's never told me he loves me. I do love him, completely. My parents never told me they loved me growing up, and I never told them, but there was absolutely no doubt that we all did.

I spoke to him yesterday and a friend commented that she always told her DH she loved him every time she said bye, and did I not do the same. I said I’d never said it and nor had my DP, and she found it mind blowing.

Is it that strange?

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wrongthinker · 15/06/2025 21:48

Takinitgottobserd · 15/06/2025 21:30

Again, only managed the first sentence, but my ‘huff’ was about you stating that I don’t love him. You cannot possibly know what my emotions are better than I do. It’s just weird. And actually this was covered off by another poster back on the first page.

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You say you love this person and he loves you, and you think that should convince people. But you say yourself that words mean nothing to you, so why should you insist that your words should mean so much to everyone else? My opinion is based only partly on your words. It's also about how you respond to others (the only emotions you actually show are anger and contempt) and also what you don't say, and don't acknowledge.

Frankly it is weird that you even started this thread. You cannot possibly think that your approach to expressing love is not unusual in our culture. It's odd. So why did you start this thread?

wrongthinker · 15/06/2025 21:50

Takinitgottobserd · 15/06/2025 21:30

Again, only managed the first sentence, but my ‘huff’ was about you stating that I don’t love him. You cannot possibly know what my emotions are better than I do. It’s just weird. And actually this was covered off by another poster back on the first page.

Edited

Don't lie. That was the third sentence.

Takinitgottobserd · 15/06/2025 21:50

Barnbrack · 15/06/2025 21:43

No, my husband and I have been together 18 years, married for 8, a whole lifetime practically we've been with one another, were very lucky and we know that.

I had a boyfriend in my 20s though where I might have said the same as you say now and I thought it was all very committed and long-term and somehow cool that we knew without saying. I didn't realize the depth that was missing. I do now and it's night and day the difference between dating for 5 years and having an actual life together. It's really odd hearing someone parrot what I used to say before years of growth and healing and real and enduring love.

It's a very different thing to 'love' someone you're dating and the love that comes from the shared experience of a life together. And I mean that for the 10 years before marriage and kids too and the years before we lived together, it's not the unorthodox nature of your relationship that's odd, it's the lack of emotional involvement you seem to want or give

Okay. I’m not in my 20s. I’m knocking 40. I’ve had ‘serious’ relationships where we tell each other we love each other, live together, plan for marriage. This feels much, much better. And I love him much, much more.

I’ll take your word about the kids. I don’t want any, despite previous partners applying pressure.

Maybe what’s right for you isn’t what’s right for me.

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Takinitgottobserd · 15/06/2025 21:52

wrongthinker · 15/06/2025 21:48

You say you love this person and he loves you, and you think that should convince people. But you say yourself that words mean nothing to you, so why should you insist that your words should mean so much to everyone else? My opinion is based only partly on your words. It's also about how you respond to others (the only emotions you actually show are anger and contempt) and also what you don't say, and don't acknowledge.

Frankly it is weird that you even started this thread. You cannot possibly think that your approach to expressing love is not unusual in our culture. It's odd. So why did you start this thread?

The thread was interesting until the nutters started taking it over.

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Barnbrack · 15/06/2025 21:53

Takinitgottobserd · 15/06/2025 21:50

Okay. I’m not in my 20s. I’m knocking 40. I’ve had ‘serious’ relationships where we tell each other we love each other, live together, plan for marriage. This feels much, much better. And I love him much, much more.

I’ll take your word about the kids. I don’t want any, despite previous partners applying pressure.

Maybe what’s right for you isn’t what’s right for me.

I'm sure It does feel better if you've been hurt in the past to be less invested and have less asked of you.

What are you 'taking my word' on regarding kids? I'm literally talking about the depth of feeling and involvement BEFORE marriage and kids because it is closest to the life you want.

I'm sorry someone tried to force you into having kids, I strongly believe women should be able to choose whether or not they want children and when and with whom.

I know you're in your 40s, which is what makes it so emotionally bizarre.

Takinitgottobserd · 15/06/2025 21:53

wrongthinker · 15/06/2025 21:50

Don't lie. That was the third sentence.

😂😂 Fucking Hell.

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wrongthinker · 15/06/2025 21:54

Takinitgottobserd · 15/06/2025 21:53

😂😂 Fucking Hell.

Ha! You laughed! Not a total robot then.

Takinitgottobserd · 15/06/2025 21:54

Barnbrack · 15/06/2025 21:53

I'm sure It does feel better if you've been hurt in the past to be less invested and have less asked of you.

What are you 'taking my word' on regarding kids? I'm literally talking about the depth of feeling and involvement BEFORE marriage and kids because it is closest to the life you want.

I'm sorry someone tried to force you into having kids, I strongly believe women should be able to choose whether or not they want children and when and with whom.

I know you're in your 40s, which is what makes it so emotionally bizarre.

I know you're in your 40s I’m not in my 40s.

I haven’t been ‘hurt’ in the past. I was abused in the past.

Anyway, this is going nowhere.

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Barnbrack · 15/06/2025 21:55

Takinitgottobserd · 15/06/2025 21:54

I know you're in your 40s I’m not in my 40s.

I haven’t been ‘hurt’ in the past. I was abused in the past.

Anyway, this is going nowhere.

Ah

You are recovering from abuse

Then it all makes a lot more sense, have you had counselling to help you address the abuse you suffered?

Takinitgottobserd · 15/06/2025 22:00

Barnbrack · 15/06/2025 21:55

Ah

You are recovering from abuse

Then it all makes a lot more sense, have you had counselling to help you address the abuse you suffered?

I have said this already in my posts. I have asked you multiple times if you’ve read them. Clearly not.

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Barnbrack · 15/06/2025 22:03

Takinitgottobserd · 15/06/2025 22:00

I have said this already in my posts. I have asked you multiple times if you’ve read them. Clearly not.

There were 9 pages of single line responses, I read to page 5, I already said that.

Ok I think you would benefit from counselling. I hope you are able to heal.

Takinitgottobserd · 15/06/2025 22:08

Barnbrack · 15/06/2025 22:03

There were 9 pages of single line responses, I read to page 5, I already said that.

Ok I think you would benefit from counselling. I hope you are able to heal.

Jesus Christ. Someone wanting a relationship different from yours doesn’t mean they need healing.

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Tandora · 15/06/2025 22:09

wrongthinker · 15/06/2025 21:01

Well you don't speak or behave as though you have any actual feelings of love towards anyone. And according to you, your partner would find any mention of the word "love" to be concerning and disturbing. I have no idea why you think he loves you or why you think you love him. People who are in love tell each other how they feel about one another. Partly because at some point the feelings demand expression. People blurt it out.

Maybe you do love him but the only expression you can imagine for those feelings is starting a thread on MN. Which is both odd and sad.

Either way, you asked if it’s odd and yes, it is, very.

People who are in love tell each other how they feel about one another.

I mean it happens all the time that people love each other and don’t express it directly with words.. like as OP explained with her parents, I’m sure they loved her, just some people are reserved or awkward about saying it for example

JHound · 15/06/2025 22:12

Barnbrack · 15/06/2025 21:55

Ah

You are recovering from abuse

Then it all makes a lot more sense, have you had counselling to help you address the abuse you suffered?

Why do you think not wishing to live with a partner / not being bothered by marriage means being less invested

wrongthinker · 15/06/2025 22:12

Tandora · 15/06/2025 22:09

People who are in love tell each other how they feel about one another.

I mean it happens all the time that people love each other and don’t express it directly with words.. like as OP explained with her parents, I’m sure they loved her, just some people are reserved or awkward about saying it for example

Nah. People who are both in love say it, at least once, to each other.

JHound · 15/06/2025 22:13

wrongthinker · 15/06/2025 22:12

Nah. People who are both in love say it, at least once, to each other.

You cannot speak for the entire planet.

Barnbrack · 15/06/2025 22:34

JHound · 15/06/2025 22:12

Why do you think not wishing to live with a partner / not being bothered by marriage means being less invested

I don't, not at all, I do think the way op talks about her partner makes her seem emotionally stunted and not properly I vested, or not sure he is. And the defensiveness.

It sounds very much like they go on a date each weekend, have sex and go on holidays together. It sounds lovely but it's not particularly deep is it?

Takinitgottobserd · 15/06/2025 22:45

Barnbrack · 15/06/2025 22:34

I don't, not at all, I do think the way op talks about her partner makes her seem emotionally stunted and not properly I vested, or not sure he is. And the defensiveness.

It sounds very much like they go on a date each weekend, have sex and go on holidays together. It sounds lovely but it's not particularly deep is it?

Fuck me. Read. My. Posts.

When we were going through a miscarriage, the death of my mother, and redundancy it didn’t feel ‘not particularly deep’.

But this post is not about those things. How fucking hard can this be to understand?

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Barnbrack · 15/06/2025 22:50

WestwardHo1 · 06/06/2025 20:28

Why do people how disparaging to people in other situations to them? I'm the same as the OP. My DP and I are have been together for five years, don't plan on living together and don't intend marrying. Both of us have been there, done that. However we're certainly not just "dating" 🙄

Then what are you doing?

Takinitgottobserd · 15/06/2025 22:55

Barnbrack · 15/06/2025 22:50

Then what are you doing?

Do you understand what dating means?

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AnyoneWhoHasAHeart · 16/06/2025 05:05

Barnbrack · 15/06/2025 22:50

Then what are you doing?

These people who feel they have to minimise other people’s experiences because they do things differently to them are pathetic.

I imagine you’re one of those who thinks that a relationship isn’t valid unless you live together, the type who would start a thread along the lines of “he’s not your partner, he’s your boyfriend.”

newsflash, you’re wrong.

Firstly, you clearly don’t actually understand the meaning of the word “dating” if you think that not living together only means dating. People don’t live together for a variety of reasons. I don’t live with my partner and we’ve been together for twelve years. For logistical reasons living together hasn’t been possible, but twelve years on it works for me, and many others for that matter, to have my space during the week and see him at weekends as he works in another city so is there during the week. That’s not dating, it’s a relationship. He’s my partner just as much as he would be if he lived with me permanently. No “dating” involved there, and we’ve been through life experiences which most people never will. If you feel the need to minimise that to satisfy your own need to feel that a relationship where you don’t live together isn’t valid then that’s on you, not the people whose relationships don’t fit your criteria.

Secondly,if partner is defined only by living together, then surely that means that if you move some bloke in after the first date, he becomes your partner, even if that means you know nothing about each other compared to a relationship which has been ongoing for several years but where the couple don’t live together for their own valid reasons. I don’t think so.

You do know there are actual married couples who don’t live together don’t you? Does that make their marriage less valid? No of course it doesn’t.

I’m sorry you feel so insecure in your own relationship that you feel such a need to belittle others’ just to make yourself feel superior.

Feelsorryforthisone · 16/06/2025 06:17

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Barnbrack · 16/06/2025 06:38

AnyoneWhoHasAHeart · 16/06/2025 05:05

These people who feel they have to minimise other people’s experiences because they do things differently to them are pathetic.

I imagine you’re one of those who thinks that a relationship isn’t valid unless you live together, the type who would start a thread along the lines of “he’s not your partner, he’s your boyfriend.”

newsflash, you’re wrong.

Firstly, you clearly don’t actually understand the meaning of the word “dating” if you think that not living together only means dating. People don’t live together for a variety of reasons. I don’t live with my partner and we’ve been together for twelve years. For logistical reasons living together hasn’t been possible, but twelve years on it works for me, and many others for that matter, to have my space during the week and see him at weekends as he works in another city so is there during the week. That’s not dating, it’s a relationship. He’s my partner just as much as he would be if he lived with me permanently. No “dating” involved there, and we’ve been through life experiences which most people never will. If you feel the need to minimise that to satisfy your own need to feel that a relationship where you don’t live together isn’t valid then that’s on you, not the people whose relationships don’t fit your criteria.

Secondly,if partner is defined only by living together, then surely that means that if you move some bloke in after the first date, he becomes your partner, even if that means you know nothing about each other compared to a relationship which has been ongoing for several years but where the couple don’t live together for their own valid reasons. I don’t think so.

You do know there are actual married couples who don’t live together don’t you? Does that make their marriage less valid? No of course it doesn’t.

I’m sorry you feel so insecure in your own relationship that you feel such a need to belittle others’ just to make yourself feel superior.

She sees him only at the weekend despite living close by, they plan holidays and movies but seemingly nothing more, they don't tell each other they love each other, she's not entirely sure how he feels about living together or marriage, everything is vague.

Not living together doesn't mean it's not just dating but all those other things, that is very much dating or a casual relationship. It lacks the emotional trappings of anything more.

I was with my husband 10 yrs before we married we were much more than dating. I could however have told you his feelings on most subjects, we DID discuss how we felt, in detail, our plans for the future went way beyond where to holiday to next. You don't have to live together or be married to be in a serious relationship but op sounds like she is 5 yrs into dating albeit monogamous

wrongthinker · 16/06/2025 07:54

JHound · 15/06/2025 22:13

You cannot speak for the entire planet.

It is odd, is what I'm saying. And it is.

It's less odd in cultures where people don't marry for love. There it would be considered normal to never say you love your partner - probably because you don't, really, and it's not the point of the relationship.

But I'm assuming OP and her partner have not been forced together by their families, or betrothed to one another for reasons of convenience, so yes, in this case, it is odd.

JHound · 16/06/2025 10:56

wrongthinker · 16/06/2025 07:54

It is odd, is what I'm saying. And it is.

It's less odd in cultures where people don't marry for love. There it would be considered normal to never say you love your partner - probably because you don't, really, and it's not the point of the relationship.

But I'm assuming OP and her partner have not been forced together by their families, or betrothed to one another for reasons of convenience, so yes, in this case, it is odd.

You didn’t merely say it was odd (in your opinion.)

You said people who love each other will say that. You cannot say that. You can only speak for yourself.

Some people are simply more at ease verbally expressing their emotions than others.

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