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Angry about lenient sentence for murder of elderly man in park

214 replies

Thomasina79 · 05/06/2025 18:38

7 years for the boy and three for the girl. This country is pathetic sometimes. A man lost his life while innocently walking his dog. Too sad

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sprinklesandshines · 11/06/2025 20:07

ButterCrackers · 11/06/2025 20:00

Same as the police, medical, fire brigade- all are tough jobs. Unemployed people need training options.

Absolutely but it has to be their choice in a job like this

kinkytoes · 11/06/2025 21:26

sprinklesandshines · 11/06/2025 19:53

I think that statement about cannabis really depends on what it is being used for. I’m aware it’s illegal however someone growing/ using it for themselves IMO shouldn’t be jailed. Someone pushing it on young children yes.

You yourself seem incredibly naive. You also can’t say people should go to prison for everything illegal then moan that the prisons should be full.

Clearly medicinal use for an individual not a criminal offence. You are patronising me and sound pretty naive yourself.

Cannabis causes mental health problems and in young people can lead to impaired brain function for life (I have family affected so I know this). If someone is growing and selling it (a dealer) then there should be a decent punishment for it.

Greenfitflop · 11/06/2025 21:28

Just awful.
That poor lovely man.
A very upsetting case.

sprinklesandshines · 11/06/2025 21:28

kinkytoes · 11/06/2025 21:26

Clearly medicinal use for an individual not a criminal offence. You are patronising me and sound pretty naive yourself.

Cannabis causes mental health problems and in young people can lead to impaired brain function for life (I have family affected so I know this). If someone is growing and selling it (a dealer) then there should be a decent punishment for it.

You said generically “cannabis ruins lives” after I mentioned growth and possession in my list. Nowhere did I say dealing which is the lowest, so you evidently didn’t read my previous answers properly.

karoba · 11/06/2025 21:47

I think their anonymity should be lifted as well in the way it was for the killers of James Bulger.

Dangermoo · 11/06/2025 21:55

karoba · 11/06/2025 21:47

I think their anonymity should be lifted as well in the way it was for the killers of James Bulger.

Agree with that.

OonaStubbs · 11/06/2025 22:58

Something definitely needs to be done about crime in this country because it is getting out of control.

sprinklesandshines · 11/06/2025 23:00

karoba · 11/06/2025 21:47

I think their anonymity should be lifted as well in the way it was for the killers of James Bulger.

This is pointless as both will be given new identities on the state if this is the case and innocent people related to them may be attacked when they are nothing to do with their scummy family member

doing this does nothing other than open up for these kids to be attacked then guess what whoever attacks them will be put inside

sprinklesandshines · 11/06/2025 23:02

Dangermoo · 11/06/2025 21:55

Agree with that.

Ive outlined why this is a bad idea already but it also means people will be misidentified as them - someone killed themselves not long ago because people wrongly thought they were venebles. The man wasn’t Venables, had done nobody any harm and is now dead. But I’m guessing you support that

Dangermoo · 11/06/2025 23:04

sprinklesandshines · 11/06/2025 23:02

Ive outlined why this is a bad idea already but it also means people will be misidentified as them - someone killed themselves not long ago because people wrongly thought they were venebles. The man wasn’t Venables, had done nobody any harm and is now dead. But I’m guessing you support that

You're guessing wrong.

sprinklesandshines · 12/06/2025 00:10

Dangermoo · 11/06/2025 23:04

You're guessing wrong.

Well that is a relief, and that is why it’s generally a bad idea to out the identity of children/teens.

OonaStubbs · 12/06/2025 07:38

Surely people can just as easily be mistaken for killers if their anonymity is not lifted? Probably more easily in fact.

notedbiscuits · 12/06/2025 08:52

sprinklesandshines · 08/06/2025 13:25

There are so many reasons why they can’t do this, not just funding but most people probably including yourself not wanting to live next to prisons/ worried about safety.

Yeah - NIMBYs

sprinklesandshines · 12/06/2025 11:11

OonaStubbs · 12/06/2025 07:38

Surely people can just as easily be mistaken for killers if their anonymity is not lifted? Probably more easily in fact.

with this case we never knew what these killers looked like to begin with or who they were. So members of the public would not know what sort of appearance they were looking for. They can’t go round attacking every single person that looks the same age as them on release.

with Venables and Thompson people had a clear idea of what they looked like thanks to the photos. So people wandered round specifically looking for a white man who was older but had the features of the boys. Leading to loads of people getting falsely accused and a suicide

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