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Bank of Mum and Dad and disrespect - request they finance their own.

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Mumofadultkid · 04/06/2025 00:45

Please bear with me there is a lot to this, and please be gentle with your comments - this has put me into a tailspin and I am crying every day.

We have helped our DD and her partner into a house, by releasing equity from our home and getting a revolving mortgage on their behalf. It was a significant amount and has put us years back in clearing our own mortgage. (We are fast approaching retirement!) They agreed to pay a certain amount each month to clear it, but they have defaulted on this 3 times already. The house is a movable house (not a caravan but movable) and is on our land. They use our services but only pay a small amount towards utilities such as electricity.

In the past, we have bought her two cars, one we agreed to pay for and the other we got the loan in our name for her to pay us back as she couldn't secure a loan at the time and I said its cheaper this way than paying all that interest. The second car loan, she paid a couple of payments, barely anything - then she started again with the attacks and said "it's all about the money with you", as a result of that - we said it's not about the money - keep the car! (On reflection, I now know this was the wrong thing to do)

She is always combative and looks for anything to have a go at us with, it really is anything - a post I may have put up, she interprets it as an attack on her, if I say something (even nothing to do with her) she interprets as an attack on her. If we don't respond in a way that she wants - "we were not excited enough", or we don't support her, or we are abusive, toxic narcissists. I noticed this as a young teen, where she claimed to her friends that a teacher had looked her up and down, funnily judging her outfit - she didn't! There was no looking up and down. The teacher said hi, Where are the others and that was it! Its been going on for years.

She can't maintain friendships, and has actually been quite nasty to some of them - pointing out "their toxic traits" - she has had three jobs never longer than a year, all of which have ended because she feels she is better than everyone, everyone is stupid and doesn't know what they are doing, and she is quite rightly (in her mind) pointing out everything that is wrong with the organisation to her managers!

She recently left her job to start her own business which is not going very well!

Her partner had a great job, but due to her "interference", he has had to move teams. She went in with him to "talk to his managers" because of "bullying behaviour from the team". It wasn't. The team he worked with was warning him because in a short space of time, he had moved in with her, and is now fully supporting her financially. He has sold his car to fund her business, he has reduced his hours to be with her (resulting in a significant drop in salary) and no longer sees his friends - she actually said to his managers face, "It's bad management".!!!!

She came away quite smug, that "she told them what's what".

Her partner was so lovely, and still is - when he came on the scene, he really calmed her down, and we thought finally someone to help her see things a little bit more clearly and a different perspective. We had such a lovely time with him, but that soon changed! He even approached me to ask how to deal with her, and he said she's feisty!

We met his family, and his family sent a message to him telling him what lovely people my husband and I are as we were driving home - and I remember then grabbing the steering wheel tightly in panic (I was driving home) and thinking she is not going to like that! (DD)

Now, he has been turned against us and is sending us horrible messages as a result of a non-event again. Its clear that she is nudging him to say these things and I suspect she is using his account to get to us ( I had to mute/block her because of the vitriol she kept sending). He called my husband names and is accusing us of lying! (This was the discussion over payment of the mortgage - he said we are lying because they can pay what they want when they want, we advised them this is true, but that is not the agreement we had; they need to make regular payments as agreed.)

It feels like she is nice to get what she wants, but as soon as she gets it she looks for and creates drama to cut us out of her life. I admit that in the past, in panic, I have bowed down.

But this time, she attacked me in my workplace, sending emails to my boss and trying to make me look incompetent. Luckily for me, my boss just ignored them, but said that she (DD) was definitely trying to ruin my reputation.

We live in a very small town, she tells lies constantly, and I am lost. I don't know what to do. It feels like she twists everything to drive a narrative that she is the victim and we are the nasties. Its so heartbreaking.

We had a message that she no longer wishes to have a relationship with us, due to our toxic behaviour and emotional abuse - she ended it with " I wish you both well". Yet she is still living on our land, with a debt in our name and using our facilities.

We don't want to cut her off, we don't want to appear to be petty or reactive.

I want to tell them to get their own loan, to clear our loan and then get it moved off. But I don't think they can now.

I have blocked her socials and her emails to stop the onslaught - is that petty? Am I just as bad as her for behaving like this?

And I'm afraid this feeds into her narrative about us. I want a relationship with her, but this pattern is so draining and exhausting. We are constantly walking on eggshells around her - if we explain this to her, she then uses that against us and turns the narrative to say she is the one walking on eggshells. It feels like she is AI, she's learning all these things from us to then accuse us of what she is doing - if that makes sense?

I don't know what to do.

Am I right to block all contact and request they get their own finance and move their house - or will this just inflame the situation and prevent any way back.

OP posts:
NoThankYouSis · 04/06/2025 06:53

She sounds wild. What do you think her side of the story would sound like? Start there and see if there is any common ground between you.

Butchyrestingface · 04/06/2025 07:00

Wow. All this and you gave her the money to build a house on your land.

You've enabled her all the way to this point so there's no incentive for her to even try to change - which would likely be an uphill task at this point.

Do you have other children?

Cleaningtroubles2 · 04/06/2025 07:00

Op, you have made a grave mistake trying to help her. Stop helping her, she is becoming worse because she doesn’t respect you whatsoever.

Do one thing at a time. Start with the car, it’s the easiest one. Take the car back, sell the car and settle the loan.

Secondly if you are close to retirement can you just default on the house loan and they can repossess it? It would be easier than trying to evict her I am sorry to say. Yes you would take the hit on your credit rating but that’s better than the alternative. You can give them two weeks notice to pay in full or it defaults. Ditto the utilities to service their house. She has decided you will pay for the house op, and her car, she feels entitled to your money.

Look up narcissistic disorder - it sounds like this is her issue.

Blueblell · 04/06/2025 07:10

It sounds like really it is you that owns the home she is living in and could evict her rather than trying to get her to pay what she had agreed to pay?

It does read like she has a personality disorder? She is alienating the people in her life from each other and causing mayhem in their places of work ect. It may be hard to accept because she is your daughter and you obviously have done everything to help her but you may be too close to see that this is more than bad behaviour and there may be a more serious underlying problem at play. You should get some professional advice.

GAJLY · 04/06/2025 07:14

I'd take the mobile home and sell it. To clear some debt. Them work hard to pay it off. Do the same with the car too. Get them off your land. I'm afraid you have spoiled her.

Okthenguys · 04/06/2025 07:17

I put YABU because that’s what you’ve been this entire time. Worrying about blocking her emails and socials is the least of your concerns. This woman (she is not a child anymore) has shown she will ruin your reputation, impact your job, and ruin you financially. You should have cut the financial entanglement long time ago, it’s time to do that now. Kick her out, sell the mobile home and try get your finances in order before you retire. If you don’t have a relationship with her when all is said and done you need to accept that. It’s not just kids who can go no contact with parents, it is also a good idea the other way round in cases like this.

Cleaningtroubles2 · 04/06/2025 07:24

You can also advise your work and manager that you are getting professional help for your dd, that she isn’t well and you would be grateful for her understanding if she contacts them again. Preempt any further back lash.

You need to start treating her like the enemy from within, and not your beloved dd, as she is slowly decimating your life op, and it needs to stop. You woefully lack boundaries.

Change the locks on your house. Stop the access. Tell her clearly you have had enough. You have done everything possible to support her to now, and it stops immediately. If the payments are not settled in 14 days it will default she will lose her home and stick to it, no more lending money or buying her things, or bailing her out. You have spoilt her, and she is turned into a monster. Best you deal with it now. Better late than never.

prelovedusername · 04/06/2025 07:24

You have done nothing wrong. You’ve supported your DD to the best of your ability, it’s time to withdraw. Her issues are not your fault but you will always be blamed for them, that’s the lot of a parent I’m afraid. She may come around in time, the situation isn’t without hope.

From a practical point of view you have to disengage financially, even if it means writing debt off. They need to move off your land into something more permanent of their own.

You will feel so much lighter when this is resolved.

Whyherewego · 04/06/2025 07:24

I sincerely hope you have written agreements to back up these loans and/or your name on the relevant paperwork (car/house).
She's not going to change until you do. So you need to change. Right now you are basically financing her and giving her what she wants. Why are you doing this? What is motivating you to do this?
In order to fix this situation you will need to fix yourself. So extract yourself financially and extract yourself from support. Evict her from the property if necessary. Dont keep enabling this toxic relationship. Try to imagine if you read your post and it was a friend of yours what you would say to them .

EveryOtherNameTaken · 04/06/2025 07:25

No matter what you do there will never 'be a way back'. She will always find something to kick off about.

I don't know how old she is but she needs a dose of the real world where she cannot manipulate things to her demands.

You need to let her know you are sacrificing your security and happiness for her ungrateful attitude and it's making you unwell.

If she can't be told nicely then you need to step up and go formal on this.

Nobody believes you are narcissistic as she is behaving like this with a lot of people.

You choice is a horrible bullying relationship or none.

I'm so sorry you feel like this and although she's your daughter, she is disrespectful and greedy. I would go hard on this now and stop enabling her. Everybody will understand why.

Silvertulips · 04/06/2025 07:29

grow a back bone.

Needapadlockonmyfridge · 04/06/2025 07:30

I think you need legal advice on how to remove her from your land. I am sorry, sounds an awful situation to be in.

Toootss · 04/06/2025 07:31

Well she is not going ‘to be there for you’ when you’re old and infirm as she is too selfish so I’d get her to move on now cos you will need thousands to cover Care Home costs -better start saving now.

SamDeanCas · 04/06/2025 07:32

I’m sorry this is happening to you op, but your dd isn’t a nice person. It’s hard to realise that your children won’t always come into adulthood being well rounded, nice individuals. It’s a difficult pill to swallow.

Bit you’re now in a position to take back control, you need to secure YOU’RE future. Take back the caravan, stop all financial support and kick them off your land. They will declare themselves homeless and be accommodated via the benefits system. You’ll be the bad guy whichever way you look at it. See this as a way to make them accountable for their behaviour, it’s your last ditch attempt at leaching them a life lesson

DucklingSwimmingInstructress · 04/06/2025 07:33

Very sadly, you're going to have to acknowledge that you might have to write this debt off.

Even more sadly, and to face this hurts hugely, some people are just not nice people either innately or because they've been spoiled. Even our nearest, whom we love a great deal.

The only thing that might help now is finally, at last, enforcing some boundaries (get them off your land, demand repayment). It doesn't have to be done with hate, in fact it needs to be calmly and with love and not responding to the tirades that will follow, but it is the only thing that can be done now.

It may be too late, but it's all you can do.

Also you need to take a very good look at balancing your own needs better. You clearly love her hugely, but not wisely I'm afraid. You need to love and value her, but also yourself.

DrinkFeckArseBrick · 04/06/2025 07:36

You need to accept that they're not going to pay and either:

  • Find a way to pay yourselves
  • Take legal action to get her to pay (but can she if she doesn't have a job and her partner has worked part time)
  • If you own her property, re-possess it and kick her out

None of these options are easy or fair on you but I don't see you have any other choice

AutumnLover1989 · 04/06/2025 07:36

Oh god,she's awful and a bully. I'd wipe my hands of her. She is nothing but a narcissist bully. Please do not offer anymore help and do t fall for her sob stories anymore. Kick her out.

DrinkFeckArseBrick · 04/06/2025 07:37

Also it sounds like she has some kind of personality disorder, has this ever been diagnosed or considered? If you know what type you might be able to find strategies that work to deal with her

MeridianB · 04/06/2025 07:37

maddening · 04/06/2025 00:54

Take the mobile home back to clear the debt and kick them both off your land.

First post nails it.

I'm so sorry OP but you have created a monster and you need to get her out of your life to have any chance of happiness and avoid homelessness yourself. Flowers

Viviennemary · 04/06/2025 07:39

It was very unwise of you to remortgage your house in order to finance your daughter when you know what she is like. And also to let her live on your land was a mistake. . Everything she touches seems to end in disaster. Get her off your land and stop giving financial assistance otherwise you are going to be ruined financially.

AutumnLover1989 · 04/06/2025 07:41

And the fact your nearing retirement and you're constantly adding more and more loans, enough is enough now. Sounds like she's not bothered and she is financially abusing you.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 04/06/2025 07:41

She is unreliable and won't change, I'm so sorry, speak to a solicitor.

You went above and beyond for her, she let you down, don't feel sad, get angry.

ButterCrackers · 04/06/2025 07:41

They leave the caravan and your property today. That’s it for them. They can stay somewhere else. Protect yourself from violence by not letting her into your house and changing the locks to this and the caravan. Tell them that the locks are being changed at midday and by that time they are to be gone. Any thing left will be binned. If you feel a threat warn the local police in advance. Don’t worry about what the local town thinks because you can say what happened. Your dd sounds like a bully - sorry to write that. Cut your losses. You’ve lost out financially so make a plan to recover from this. For your dd it’s sad she’s like this but she is an adult and not your problem. Are you paying the car insurance? If so cancel this as well. Take care of you and protect yourself from bullying and nasty behaviour. Perhaps see a counsellor to help on the mental health aspects of this situation.

BustingBaoBun · 04/06/2025 07:42

You have done nothing wrong. You’ve supported your DD to the best of your ability, it’s time to withdraw

I think that ship has sailed! I am sorry to say I think the OP has done everything wrong, she has carried on paying for, and supporting her DD despite her daughter abusing her time and time again.

I have helped my adult DCs out a couple of times, but if I had seen just 1% of the behaviour the OP's DD has shown, I would not have done this.

Bestfootforward11 · 04/06/2025 07:43

This is so sad. It’s clear you love her a lot and want her to be happy. But I do agree with those suggesting an undiagnosed personality disorder. All you can do is encourage her to seek help (which I’m sure she will not accept) and take practical steps to protect yourself re finance and your own well being x

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