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To want to know what you're sick of about men !

360 replies

GingerPussInBoots · 27/05/2025 23:55

OK, OK its not all men

But this comment on another thread ade me laugh so much and I seriously related, anything else you'd like to add?

OP posts:
Meadowfinch · 29/05/2025 05:55

Their lying.
Their belief that they are the most important thing in the world
Their fury when they discover otherwise.
Their entitlement.
Their laziness.
Their self pity
Their lack of responsibility.

I know one couple who seem genuinely in love after 40 years. I know quite a few who tolerate each other for the sake of the dcs. But I know too many who are together simply because they cannot afford to separate.

I dumped my last man friend because after dating for 5 years, he told me I had to "get rid of my ds half the time, if I wanted our relationship to progress." Ds was 9 at the time. Man was literally dumbfounded, speechless when I took a nanosecond to refuse and show him the door.

DS' dad was lovely until ds arrived, then he morphed into 1950s man, tried to stop me going back to work, thought he'd acquired an unpaid domestic skivvy, refused to change nappies or help with ds in any way. He didn't get up once in the night when ds was a baby. If I was so tired I didn't wake up when ds cried, ex used to nudge me with his foot and say 'baby's crying' then go back to sleep.

Since we split I had to undergo chemo & radiotherapy. Ex came to visit ds during that time and spent 10 minutes whining about how his leg hurt because he'd had to drive his automatic luxury car down a motorway for 90 minutes.

Literally, what is the point of them? I've never needed a man as a meal ticket, but can't find an equal partner. So I just go on occasional dates when I'm feeling optimistic. 😁

TeachMeSomething · 29/05/2025 06:40

Heard on a podcast I was listening to in the middle of the night:

Most men treat a woman like an appliance and they'll keep using you until you malfunction in some way.

ItsBouqeeeet · 29/05/2025 07:31

Renabrook · 28/05/2025 23:36

On nighs out on Friday and Saturday nights in pubs and clubs and on holidays I have heard this and more from women

Same!

I remember when it was the Euros or World Cup and there was a thread about how 'fuckable' Jack Grealish was. Cue many more posters, posting about the team.

I quoted this on a similar thread to this one and was told its different because those men would never be under threat from these women.

AnnieAzul · 29/05/2025 09:33

AnnieAzul · 28/05/2025 19:46

@ItsBouqeeeet

Do teenage boys have to change their behaviour because they know that women might rape them?

Do men have to get a taxi home even if they could walk because they fear a strange woman could attack them and rape them

Do men walk with their keys walk between their fingers because they have had experience of women following them and attacking them

Men are most likely to be a victim of MALE violence

Women are most likely to victims of MALE violence.

Stats don't lie.

@ItsBouqeeeet

you may have missed this?

AnnieAzul · 29/05/2025 09:34

Do teenage boys have to change their behaviour because they know that women might rape them?

Do men have to get a taxi home even if they could walk because they fear a strange woman could attack them and rape them

Do men walk with their keys walk between their fingers because they have had experience of women following them and attacking them

Men are most likely to be a victim of MALE violence

Women are most likely to victims of MALE violence.

AnnieAzul · 29/05/2025 09:35

Are 1 in 4 men raped by a woman?

FrankensteinsMonster · 29/05/2025 09:45

Ponoka7 · 28/05/2025 22:29

Judgements about a strangers body. Public critiquing of how fuckable, or not the women are around them. We may discuss it across forums, as we are now, but I doubt any of us have ever shouted it, or stopped and bothered a man, going about his business, to tell him our thoughts on any aspect of him. I'd put money on the 45+ year old women not giving men in their teens and early 20's 'the eye'. You go from it happening to you, to watching your DD's and other young female relatives having to put up with it.

You're shifting the goalposts.
Also yes, women do this publicly, have you ever seen a woman react in public when a man doesn't her advances?
Its become basically a meme now - women complaining about their husbands on tik tok and instagram for the whole world to see. Women complaining about their husbands/boyfriends to their girlfriends, mothers, anyone who will listen, then being surprised when their husband/partner is upset about it.
Complaining about and criticising someone that you love to others is far more treacherous behaviour than a man saying he finds a random woman hot.

andHelenknowsimmiserablenow · 29/05/2025 09:52

Weaponised incompetentance when it comes to the mental load, even when both partners work full time.
Oh you knowww I can't remember things like birthdays etc...
No, the homework app doesn't work on my phone...
DP denied getting any emails from the school for years so 'didn't know' any important dates or meetings, until one day we were sitting in the same room next to each other when our phones pinged at the same time and I saw that the exact same email from the school about exams had arrived for both of us.
Grrrr

Chiseltip · 29/05/2025 09:55

AnnieAzul · 28/05/2025 05:47

The fact all our daughter’s have to change their behaviour and adapt their movements in an attempt to keep themselves safe from the male sex class.

This is not limited to;
not wearing earphones when walking at night, ignoring the random men shouting at her when she runs in the park, taking a less enjoyable route nearer the main paths when running, hyper vigilance for men following when walking home, getting a taxi when she’d rather walk, looking for a train carriage with other women in when she returns late at night…….

All things men have to do as well.

Or do you not think men get mugged, assaulted, or have to take precautions in public ?

SweetSound · 29/05/2025 10:01

Chiseltip · 29/05/2025 09:55

All things men have to do as well.

Or do you not think men get mugged, assaulted, or have to take precautions in public ?

There are risks out there for boys and men but it’s really not the same. I’ve never spoken to a man who thinks it is the same. Good men realise it’s very different for women.

Verv · 29/05/2025 10:50

FrankensteinsMonster · 29/05/2025 09:45

You're shifting the goalposts.
Also yes, women do this publicly, have you ever seen a woman react in public when a man doesn't her advances?
Its become basically a meme now - women complaining about their husbands on tik tok and instagram for the whole world to see. Women complaining about their husbands/boyfriends to their girlfriends, mothers, anyone who will listen, then being surprised when their husband/partner is upset about it.
Complaining about and criticising someone that you love to others is far more treacherous behaviour than a man saying he finds a random woman hot.

Does loving somebody make them immune from criticism?

JHound · 29/05/2025 10:55

ItsBouqeeeet · 28/05/2025 18:51

So you're part of the issue.

Women abuse men too. You'll never get a true statistic as it's such a taboo.

Misandry is very much a thing!!

Women do not kill, rape and abuse men in any where near the numbers that men kill and abuse women.

To claim otherwise due to “hidden data” is laughable.

JHound · 29/05/2025 10:57

FrankensteinsMonster · 29/05/2025 09:45

You're shifting the goalposts.
Also yes, women do this publicly, have you ever seen a woman react in public when a man doesn't her advances?
Its become basically a meme now - women complaining about their husbands on tik tok and instagram for the whole world to see. Women complaining about their husbands/boyfriends to their girlfriends, mothers, anyone who will listen, then being surprised when their husband/partner is upset about it.
Complaining about and criticising someone that you love to others is far more treacherous behaviour than a man saying he finds a random woman hot.

Why is criticising somebody’s behaviour “treasonous”?

JHound · 29/05/2025 10:57

Chiseltip · 29/05/2025 09:55

All things men have to do as well.

Or do you not think men get mugged, assaulted, or have to take precautions in public ?

Who is mugging and assaulting men?

Who do men need to “take precautions from”?

MrsSkylerWhite · 29/05/2025 11:00

JHound · 29/05/2025 10:57

Who is mugging and assaulting men?

Who do men need to “take precautions from”?

Other men. Very commonplace. Stabbing, too and in various cities, gunshot wounds.

JHound · 29/05/2025 11:03

MrsSkylerWhite · 29/05/2025 11:00

Other men. Very commonplace. Stabbing, too and in various cities, gunshot wounds.

That’s my point.

TeachMeSomething · 29/05/2025 11:11

MrsSkylerWhite · 29/05/2025 11:00

Other men. Very commonplace. Stabbing, too and in various cities, gunshot wounds.

Yep - other men. It's not women who are doing the stabbing, shooting, sexually assaulting, etc. It's other men!

AltitudeCheck · 29/05/2025 11:16

ItsBouqeeeet · 28/05/2025 15:33

So if there was a male forum with lots of women bashing, you'd be okay with that?

There is... it's called the Internet!

Whatwouldscullydo · 29/05/2025 11:23

AltitudeCheck · 29/05/2025 11:16

There is... it's called the Internet!

Maybe check out punters.net where men review their hookers, befire deciding women sick of mens behaviour towards them is a problem 🤔

ClosetBasketCase · 29/05/2025 11:56
  • The "man" smell
  • The lack of desire to do anything useful
  • wanting to stay inside and watch tv all weekend,
  • always wanting sex depite the fact that i've been working and sorting everyones crap out all day. I dont care - couldnt you have put on some porn and wanked?
  • waking me up at 3am for sex as he's horny - use your hand you fucking sex pest (both of the above are in ex's not current partner).
  • expecting me to support their every move
  • wanting the woman to be the support act
  • being shocked that i have a voice, am not pushed around easily, and i voice my opinions regarless of hurting their sad little egos.

I'm not saying all me, my current partner is a star, who I love to bits and isn't a dick, pest or ne'r do well. but geesh some men are a complete waste of humanity

FrankensteinsMonster · 29/05/2025 12:32

Verv · 29/05/2025 10:50

Does loving somebody make them immune from criticism?

Of course not, but loving someone normally means not embarrassing or disrespecting them publicly. Loving someone normally means you don't want to make them feel bad.

FrankensteinsMonster · 29/05/2025 12:33

JHound · 29/05/2025 10:57

Why is criticising somebody’s behaviour “treasonous”?

can you read? the word is "treacherous"

Verv · 29/05/2025 12:59

FrankensteinsMonster · 29/05/2025 12:32

Of course not, but loving someone normally means not embarrassing or disrespecting them publicly. Loving someone normally means you don't want to make them feel bad.

Ohh, so if a man is being shit at home, women shouldn't talk about it or "disrespect" them in public in case they are "embarrassed".

How quaint.

countdowntonap · 29/05/2025 13:45

This is an extract from the opening of Holly Bourne’s novel ‘Pretending’. I read it this morning and it made me think of this thread:
*I. Hate. Men.

I mean, think about it. They’re just awful. I hate how selfish they are. How they take up so much space, assuming it’s always theirs to take. How they spread out their legs on public transport, like their balls need regular airing to stop them developing damp. I hate how they basically scent
mark anywhere they enter to make it work for them. Putting on the music they want to listen to the moment they arrive at any house party, and always taking the nicest chair. How they touch your stuff instead of just looking; even tweak the furniture arrangement to make it mostcomfortable for them. All without asking first—never asking first.

I hate how they think their interests are more important than yours—even though twice a week all most of them do is watch a bunch of strangers kick a circle around a piece of lawn and sulk if the circle doesn’t go in the right place. And how bored they look if you ever try to introduce
them to a film, a band, or even a freaking YouTube clip, before you’ve even pressed Play.

I hate their endless arrogance. I hate how they interrupt you and then apologize for it but carry on talking anyway. How they ask you a question but then check your answer afterward. I hate how they can never do one piece of housework without telling you about it. I hate how they
literally cannot handle being driven in a car by a woman, even if they’re terrible drivers themselves. I hate how they all think they’re fucking incredible at grilling meat on barbecues.
The sun comes out and man must light fire and not let woman anywhere near the meat. Dumping blackened bits of chicken onto our plates along with the whiff of a burp from their beer breath, acting all caveman, like we’re supposed to find it cute that we may now get salmonella and that we’re going to have to do all the washing up.

I hate how I’m quite scared of them. I hate the collective noise of them when they’re in a big group. The tribal wahey-ing, like they all swap their IQs for extra testosterone when they swarm together. How, if you’re sitting alone on an empty train, they always come and deliberately sit next to you en masse, and talk extra loudly about macho nonsense, apparently to impress you. I hate the way they look at you when you walk past—automatically judging your screwability the moment they see you. Telling you to smile if you dare look anything other than delighted about living with stuff like this constantly fucking happening to you.

I hate how hard they are to love. How many of them actually, truly, think the way to your heart is sending you a selfie of them tugging themselves, hairy ball sack very much still in shot. I hate how they have sex. How they shove their fingers into you, thinking it’s going to achieve anything. Jabbing their unwashed hands into your dry vagina, prodding about like they’re checking for prostate cancer, then wondering why you now have BV and you still haven’t come. Have none of them read a sex manual? Seriously? None of them? And I hate how they hate youa little just after they’ve finished. How even the nice ones lie there with cold eyes, pretending to
cuddle, but clearly desperate to get as far away from you as possible*

It’s a long post - but it’s as if Holly read this thread before she started writing.

ItsBouqeeeet · 29/05/2025 15:14

JHound · 29/05/2025 10:55

Women do not kill, rape and abuse men in any where near the numbers that men kill and abuse women.

To claim otherwise due to “hidden data” is laughable.

Edited

Kill and rape, maybe not.
Abuse - absolutely so.

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