To absolutely not want closer ties to Europe

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What is the matter with Stammer toadying up to the EU. We voted Out. Has he forgotten. I switched the TV off when I heard the word contribution and free movement. Here we go again. Shafted and ripped off at every turn and following their dumb rules. It's groundhog day. I'm furious.

Brave post. Most on her are rabid remainers and are incredibly rude to anyone who disagrees!

You can ask as often as you like. I do not know what I’m talking about want to live under EU law.

No they don’t forget that.

Any country that wants to trade has to have trade deals - that is how late capitalism works.

It was always the plan post Brexit because there is no other choice.

You are being ridiculous

Because you're not at all rude, describing people as "rabid"?

FGS its bloody trade deal, NOT re-joining the EU, no SM, no CU, no FOM..

Its weaker than the deals the Tories did with Australia/NZ but because its the EU, it suddenly makes some people behave irrationally.

I'm just reading the BBC 'at a glance' article on the deal.

It says.

Fishing
A new deal will keep the current status quo giving EU boats continued access to UK waters until 2038

The 2020 Brexit deal, which saw the UK regain 25% EU fishing quotas, was due to run out next year

The UK will continue to agree yearly quotas with the EU and Norway and issue licences to control who fishes in its waters

A £360m "fishing and coastal growth fund" to invest in new technology and equipment

So actually we had a post Brexit deal in place, and all we are really doing here is extending it - we had to renegotiate it before next year anyway! 😂

Well, if that is the case then they ARE right. Sadly the British public weren’t bright enough. It should never have gone to a vote. People will believe any old shit as long as it’s written on the side of a big red bus, won’t they?

Good to see the Brexit lot still can't tell us why they think we're better off out.

I am really pleased that young people throughout the UK and EU will have reciprocal opportunities to travel and work. I am also thankful that we will have better access for our goods into Europe. Some give and take is the nature of a trade deal. I think we have done well.

When David Cameron said that if we left the EU we would no longer have access to the single market this was dismissed as "project fear" by Brexiters!

When the person who disagrees is opposed to trade deals - which is a pretty unique position - it does take some effort not to be sharp.

"For the majority of the Brexit negotiations we were discussing much, much softer Brexits than today's announcement. In fact, the assumption for most of 2016-18 was that we'd get an EFTA/Norway type arrangement, or something only slightly harder. We ended up with rock-hard, cliff-edge (insert your favourite metaphor from 2019) Brexit, mainly because of internal Tory infighting (and to be fair a little bit because of internal Labour and Lib Dem infighting) and it's disastrous."

Yes @whatisgoingonwithmycareer , its easy to forget that we had alternative options for how Brexit might have worked - and then Theresa May buckled to the ERG headbangers.

The country voted to leave the EU. We are no longer part of the EU. We are not rejoining the EU.

Nobody voted to have nothing to do with the EU.

Starmer was very open about his plans to reset the relationship with the EU, and in case you haven't noticed, he was elected with a large majority in Parliament. So he has a democratic mandate to do what he said he was going to do.

As the Brexiteers took so much pleasure in saying to Remainers after the referendum, "get over it".

Brexit was a mistake. We have all the negatives of leaving, and none of the positives.

I don’t feel this was conveyed adequately when people voted, and many voted because of manipulative articles read in the rags.

So I don’t agree with what you are saying personally. Being part of the EU was more beneficial to us than leaving.

What laws? We're not part of the EU but have trade agreements with them.

Don't you think we need more money OP and to get rid off all the red tape making business a giant pain?

You’re really confused.

The only European Court that applied (and still applies to the UK) is the ECHR (European Court of Human Rights) which predates the EU, has nothing to do with EU membership and isn’t ‘EU law’- it’s human rights that all European countries have agreed on by charter and European judges, including British ones, pass down the decisions.

Other than that, there are basic laws that come with trade agreements and security cooperation agreements.

Brexit was a huge mistake driven by racism (yes it was). We need closer ties with the EU from a financial point of view and we should be grateful that they’re entertaining the idea after the way we embarrassed ourselves 9 years ago

Since my husband and I no longer qualify as "young" I guess I will be paying my taxes in France for the rest of my life rather than paying thousands of pounds for the privilege of asking (without any guarantee of a positive response) whether my husband can live in the same country as his British wife and British children.

"We" didn't vote to leave. Almost HALF of us voted to remain. It's about time our voices were heard.

Nothing to do with capitalism. Trade deals have existed between rulers since ancient times.

He said that as part of an attempt to persuade the public not to vote for Brexit as @MissScarletInTheBallroom and you know full well (or at least I hope you do, assuming you were functioning adults at the time).

It’s not possible to get good deals and negotiate with all member states independently, so a block deal is where it’s at - D Cameron knew it when he said that, he just didn’t think it would happen.

It started after the aftermath of world war 2. Following the devastation of the war, European leaders sought to prevent future conflicts by fostering closer economic and political ties between nations.

This is precisely how a Parliamentary democracy functions for goodness sake! You vote in members of Parliament, and they then sit in Parliament on behalf of constituents and vote on legislation being discussed in Parliament. And if you don't agree with how they are working then you are free to vote for someone else in the next General Election.

Or do you expect to be personally consulted on every issue?

Did you feel similarly outraged that you weren't consulted about the US trade deal? The Indian one?

Jesus some people really aren't doing themselves any favours are they? Mind you Churchill did say that the main argument against democracy was a five minute conversation with the average voter.

You can't actually come up with one law you didn't like and you don't understand that we're not going back under "EU law" anyway. So either you're stupid or your'e a bot.

I'm delighted with the news, it's fantastic. Well done Starmer.

Her?