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TheQuirkyMaker · 2025-05-19T10:27:20+00:00

Is is right that an unpopular govt can reverse the democratic wishes of the UK to have nothing to do with Europe?

DuncinToffee · 30/05/2025 12:29

https://eastangliabylines.co.uk/news/brexit/the-eu-uk-reset-summit-baby-steps-but-positive-glimmers/

The EU/UK reset summit: baby steps but positive glimmers

EAB's monthly look at the UK/ EU relationship. May's fairly sucessful summit wasn't enough for everyone, but it was at least a start

https://eastangliabylines.co.uk/news/brexit/the-eu-uk-reset-summit-baby-steps-but-positive-glimmers/

Alexandra2001 · 30/05/2025 12:53

brexitbarbie · 30/05/2025 09:37

Don't think that animal welfare groups haven't tried to get this cruel trade stopped. However, it is driven by market forces.
As long as people choose to eat meat it will continue.

There has been a reduction in meat-eating with 2.1% of the UK population identifying as vegetarian in 2000.
Now (2025) it stands at 11.5%. (This doesn't include those who don't eat beef following the BSE outbreak)

So smaller slaughterhouses have gone out of business.
The larger slaughterhouses rely on economies of scale to stay in business. They need to source from a wider area to maintain throughput.

This can mean longer journeys for animals.

There are regulations about live transport see here -

www.rspca.org.uk/adviceandwelfare/farm/livetransport

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Well, the irony is, Brexit caused a shortage of vets in Abattoirs, which has led to many closing down, meaning longer journeys to slaughter....

Eating meat doesn't mean animals have to travel from one end of the country to the other...

The regs aren't enforced, like pretty much everything in the UK, only gets looked at when something goes horribly wrong.

Alexandra2001 · 30/05/2025 12:57

brexitbarbie · 30/05/2025 09:59

Because it couldn't get live exports stopped because of EU regulations.

I have already explained why in some detail

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Banning international live exports was a no go...how about in Holland Belgium etc ? countries in close proximity who share slaughter facilities?

Same with NI and ROI...

In itself, transportation of animals isn't any more cruel than shooting them more locally, its max journey times, regs and enforcement of these thats needed.

Just makes people feel better about the meat trade as they tuck into a fillet steak....

GasperyJacquesRoberts · 30/05/2025 14:11

@brexitbarbie your persecution complex is showing

cardibach · 30/05/2025 14:16

They could have poured their energies into the fact that we were coming out of the EU and dealing with it, as they had three and a half years to prepare, but no, they formed the Church of the Perpetual Remoan instead.
Wasnt preparing for Brexit rather the job of the leave contingent, @brexitbarbie ?
It would seem to me that they were the ones who failed to prepare and are now perpetually moaning.

pointythings · 30/05/2025 14:46

cardibach · 30/05/2025 14:16

They could have poured their energies into the fact that we were coming out of the EU and dealing with it, as they had three and a half years to prepare, but no, they formed the Church of the Perpetual Remoan instead.
Wasnt preparing for Brexit rather the job of the leave contingent, @brexitbarbie ?
It would seem to me that they were the ones who failed to prepare and are now perpetually moaning.

Brexiteers, still making Brexit everyone else's responsibility. And they call those of us who are pointing out that it has turned to shit a cult - you couldn't make it up.