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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To be upset that my therapist wanted to forcibly end our relationship when I was 7 months pregnant?

199 replies

AreYouThereGodItsMeHarriet · 18/05/2025 21:24

I’d been seeing her for roughly 18 months on and off when seemingly out of the blue, midway through a session, she said she thought we should end our relationship because she felt I was too attached to her. She gave me the option of just ending there and then or having one more final session for closure.

I’d lost a baby a year previously and she had supported me through that time. For her to not at least see me through the subsequent pregnancy felt absolutely awful. Yet she said it shouldn’t matter, that there’s no shortage of other people who do the job she does and that the relationship with a therapist shouldn’t be any more emotional than the relationship with the builder who builds your extension.

To cut a long story short, she was able to be talked round and agreed to keep things going. However she says my strong reaction at that time was unusual and is indicative that I have some quite serious problems.

I’ve been surprised by this view if I’m honest. Surely not many people would take being abandoned by a therapist under those circumstances completely in their stride? AIBU?

OP posts:
VickyEadieofThigh · 19/05/2025 09:34

Interestingly, when I had therapy (30 years ago), I disliked my therapist; when I ended the 'relationship', she was quite astonished!

Jellycatspyjamas · 19/05/2025 09:36

As a midwife, I've had people look me up on social media, texting/calling on my work phone after our professional relationship is over to talk or tell me updates about their life.

With respect a midwife is very different to a therapist, and the relationship is completely different. A therapist should be able to assess and manage risk, know how to deal with out of session contact and be able to manage boundaries appropriately. They should be able to use all of the things you mentioned as part of the therapy, because they tell us something about the client that would be useful to explore.

ButteryLightHouse · 19/05/2025 09:37

AthWat · 19/05/2025 09:09

But they're not an empathetic, compassionate therapist - you said they shouldn't even be working. So they were perfectly correct when telling the OP to go somewhere else as soon as possible so a properly qualified therapist can start working with her.
This one, in your words, shouldn't be working and every hour she spends with the OP could do the OP more harm than good.

If we were limited to living in a binary, black and white world, then you are indeed one hundred percent correct.

But thank god we don't. You are missing my point entirely

MyOliveHelper · 19/05/2025 09:40

Jellycatspyjamas · 19/05/2025 09:36

As a midwife, I've had people look me up on social media, texting/calling on my work phone after our professional relationship is over to talk or tell me updates about their life.

With respect a midwife is very different to a therapist, and the relationship is completely different. A therapist should be able to assess and manage risk, know how to deal with out of session contact and be able to manage boundaries appropriately. They should be able to use all of the things you mentioned as part of the therapy, because they tell us something about the client that would be useful to explore.

No we are all allied healthcare professionals. I think people would benefit from hearing therapists pov on terminating clients.

Jellycatspyjamas · 19/05/2025 09:42

So they were perfectly correct when telling the OP to go somewhere else as soon as possible so a properly qualified therapist can start working with her.

Theres a way to have that conversation though, which recognises the need for a planned ending, acknowledges the 18 months they’ve worked together and centres the reason for the ending in the therapist rather than the client doing something wrong. A planned ending, even if it’s unwanted, can be a good, healing experience - deciding halfway through a session that you don’t want to see the client and blaming them for that isn’t a good ending.

InALonelyWorld · 19/05/2025 09:45

ButteryLightHouse · 19/05/2025 09:32

It sounds like your understanding of therapy is limited to cognitive approaches, which are time limited and aim to supply the client with a 'tool box' of techniques

There are other modalities which are longer term which aim to unpick the reasons being the difficulties and create greater self awareness. In these approaches it's not uncommon to see a therapist multiple times a week for years. In these approaches the therapist doesn't teach techniques or even tell the client what to do. They listen, they interpret, they point out patterns and themes of thoughts/behaviours. They ask why and what if. They make use of the relationship between the therapist and client.

Apologies, you are right. In my locality and own experience the only therapies provided and available, regardless of thr issues are the toolbox, limited session types, whether private or NHS funded. I understand this and probably should have added that this is possibly not the case for everyone and the quality, approaches and offers will likely be better, or worse, depending on area.

Jellycatspyjamas · 19/05/2025 09:45

MyOliveHelper · 19/05/2025 09:40

No we are all allied healthcare professionals. I think people would benefit from hearing therapists pov on terminating clients.

I am a therapist, I’d cut my own arm off before ending work with a client in the way the OP described. And different professionals have different roles, responsibilities and ethical requirements - what’s appropriate for a midwife would be very inappropriate for a therapist and vice versa.

pinkdelight · 19/05/2025 09:46

ButteryLightHouse · 19/05/2025 08:53

The therapist ended the therapy with the message that OP was the problem and no acknowledgement that the therapist themselves was lacking in skill or experience. That was defensive on the the part of the therapist and caused harm to the OP.
This therapist should not be working

Although turns out therapist in fact did a 180 and offered a much more gradual ending which the OP was grateful for, so she's not that bad and should be working.

MyOliveHelper · 19/05/2025 09:50

Jellycatspyjamas · 19/05/2025 09:45

I am a therapist, I’d cut my own arm off before ending work with a client in the way the OP described. And different professionals have different roles, responsibilities and ethical requirements - what’s appropriate for a midwife would be very inappropriate for a therapist and vice versa.

That might be a flaw in your practice rather than a good thing. It might show that you're unable to recognise when a situation is acutely unethical in your quest to be there for the client, personally.

Jellycatspyjamas · 19/05/2025 09:54

No, I’m very aware of my competence and have made the decision to end with clients when I wasn’t the best person for them, for whatever reason. I have good supervision and am clear about my ethical duties.

What I wouldn’t do is work with someone for 18 months, decide mid session to tell them we were ending, suggest the reason was their fault and not offer an appropriate ending. The decision by the therapist to end might well have been the right one, their manner and means certainly wasn’t.

CheezePleeze · 19/05/2025 10:18

Ihad2Strokes · 19/05/2025 00:15

You're conflating two issues. The therapists professional view & the therapists personal feelings.

The decision should be entirely about the client. The FEELZ of the therapist shouldn't come into it.

The OP's FEELINGS are more important than the therapists, the therapists feelings shouldn't even come into this situation.

So the therapist has 'feelz' (a childish, dismissive word).

But the OP has 'feelings'?

I think that says it all really.

Enko · 19/05/2025 10:42

AthWat · 19/05/2025 08:13

I mean, surely you can learn a therapist has children because they say things like "Sorry, can't do 2:30 next Tuesday, I am at my daughter's sports day", or whatever. I mean they could take care to conceal such things, if they felt they needed to, but it's not necessarily anything to do with the relationship.

Edited

I would never say that to a client. I would say "I have an appointment."

However if a client outright asks if I have children I have at times responded in the affirmative if I felt this would make the client feel more comfortable to discuss their issues. I do not volunteer the information.

My issue was more your blanket statement of "you should not know this" (about your counsellor) As there are times where a client will know this about their counsellor. I would never offer their names and ages as this is not relevant for the client to know.

Enko · 19/05/2025 10:55

Jellycatspyjamas · 19/05/2025 09:54

No, I’m very aware of my competence and have made the decision to end with clients when I wasn’t the best person for them, for whatever reason. I have good supervision and am clear about my ethical duties.

What I wouldn’t do is work with someone for 18 months, decide mid session to tell them we were ending, suggest the reason was their fault and not offer an appropriate ending. The decision by the therapist to end might well have been the right one, their manner and means certainly wasn’t.

Completely agree with this.

The13thFairy · 19/05/2025 11:32

You say you were with her for 18 months 'off and on'. Could you say some more about this?

pinkdelight · 19/05/2025 11:34

The13thFairy · 19/05/2025 11:32

You say you were with her for 18 months 'off and on'. Could you say some more about this?

It's in her second post: I’d actually been quite long periods without seeing her at all. I saw her initially around the time of losing my baby but then barely saw her until about halfway through the subsequent pregnancy and had only just started to step the sessions up again at the end.

Ihad2Strokes · 19/05/2025 11:37

CheezePleeze · 19/05/2025 10:18

So the therapist has 'feelz' (a childish, dismissive word).

But the OP has 'feelings'?

I think that says it all really.

😳🙇🏻‍♀️

AthWat · 19/05/2025 11:45

Enko · 19/05/2025 10:42

I would never say that to a client. I would say "I have an appointment."

However if a client outright asks if I have children I have at times responded in the affirmative if I felt this would make the client feel more comfortable to discuss their issues. I do not volunteer the information.

My issue was more your blanket statement of "you should not know this" (about your counsellor) As there are times where a client will know this about their counsellor. I would never offer their names and ages as this is not relevant for the client to know.

I didn't say that, somebody else did.

giddyauntie123 · 19/05/2025 12:16

I'm glad you have been given the ending you needed Op and best of luck x

SixtySomething · 20/05/2025 12:19

MyOliveHelper · 18/05/2025 23:47

For a few reasons, I'm part of a few online groups for mental health therapists. I have been for a few years. I'd say recently, there has been a surge in discussion and articles around boundaries with clients and also around recognising your own limitations and when you've exhausted your professional capacity with an individual client.

What you say has nothing to do with the question.
I don't think OP did anything to threaten the therapists safety so much that she needed to terminate the therapy with immediate effect.
It was a dangerous and irresponsible act on the part of the therapist.
If she felt her boundaries were threstened she should have got professional supervision.
I so dislike blaming the victim which so many people seem to love on MN!

MyOliveHelper · 20/05/2025 13:03

SixtySomething · 20/05/2025 12:19

What you say has nothing to do with the question.
I don't think OP did anything to threaten the therapists safety so much that she needed to terminate the therapy with immediate effect.
It was a dangerous and irresponsible act on the part of the therapist.
If she felt her boundaries were threstened she should have got professional supervision.
I so dislike blaming the victim which so many people seem to love on MN!

How do you know?

SixtySomething · 20/05/2025 18:14

MyOliveHelper · 20/05/2025 13:03

How do you know?

OP said she didn't go in for any stalking behaviour etc.
So far as I'm aware only some serious threat would have justified the therapist's behaviour. In that case, one would imagine the therapist would contact the relevant agency eg police, acute psychiatric services.
I know she can't have felt genuinely threstened by OP because she then agreed to carry on seeing her!

HiddenInCubeOfCheese · 20/05/2025 19:11

I once asked my therapist if she had any really weird personal experiences with any clients. She was very nonchalant and said “oh all sorts! Had people say they fancy me, love me, that I remind them of whomever”

”oh god! What do you do with the ones that fancy/love you?”

”we work through how it’s not real and is a projection/transference and that’s a gateway to the deeper work”

so, if my fairer sex therapist can be breezy about people lusting after her, I’m sure OP’s therapist should be able to hold decent boundaries too.

hatboxes · 21/05/2025 07:26

HiddenInCubeOfCheese · 20/05/2025 19:11

I once asked my therapist if she had any really weird personal experiences with any clients. She was very nonchalant and said “oh all sorts! Had people say they fancy me, love me, that I remind them of whomever”

”oh god! What do you do with the ones that fancy/love you?”

”we work through how it’s not real and is a projection/transference and that’s a gateway to the deeper work”

so, if my fairer sex therapist can be breezy about people lusting after her, I’m sure OP’s therapist should be able to hold decent boundaries too.

Edited

Exactly this. It’s very common, normal even, to have strong feelings about your therapist, or to be attached to them. A good therapist will use this therapeutical for the patients benefit. Not suddenly stop the therapy, or shame the client by telling them have serious problems because of those feelings.

If they felt unable to work with the client they should end the therapy in a planned way over time, support them in finding someone else, and make clear it was their own limitations as a therapist, not the client at fault.

OVienna · 21/05/2025 20:44

AreYouThereGodItsMeHarriet · 19/05/2025 00:22

Thank you. I was genuinely curious to see what proportion of people would find this situation upsetting. It’s a lot lower than I anticipated so I maybe do have more serious problems than I’d thought. Quite where I go with that though I don’t know…

Something nobody really seems to have picked up on as I perhaps didn’t emphasize it enough is that it felt hugely significant to me that this happened when I was in the run-up to giving birth again after having lost my last baby. I just didn’t feel I had the emotional capacity to deal with anything else at that time and wanted to cry out, ‘Please, could you not just hold on a couple more months until I’ve got through the birth and baby is safely here?!!’

The therapist actually did do a complete U-turn and offered a much more gradual wind down, for which I am enormously grateful. Because I had a PTSD diagnosis I had a specialist care plan for the birth. There were therefore other professionals involved and it was agreed between them that I should have continuity of care from that therapist, rather than it being something I negotiated myself. I’d always been open with her about feeling attached to her and she was aware that I had quite a lot of distrust of HCPs generally based on pat experiences.

I cannot imagine anyone would vote YABU after seeing this update. Take good care of yourself.

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