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I spoil my DD by not forcing her to eat her none safe foods, AIBU?

176 replies

ResturantWithMyDad · 18/05/2025 19:36

I’ll preface this with my DD (aged 10, almost 11, school year 6) has SN and a disability so we tend to try to keep things the same.

Went to a pub for Sunday lunch after an event for my dads social group. Decided on a pub DD and I go to regularly – Dads been once before and enjoyed it.

I paid for the meals but dad moaned and moaned saying it was expensive for what it was, and it was only good last time because it was a novelty for him. He says he gets fed up of going to the same places time and again and can we try somewhere new.

I said next time he can book and choose but can he warn me in advance so I can check the menu and make sure there’s something DD can/will eat (she has a few allergies of uncommon foods but also when she’s somewhere new has safe foods she eats until she feels safe – usually off the kids menu – nuggets/fish fingers/sausages and then when we’ve been a few times she’ll try something off the main/adult menu but alongside her safe meal and we build up from there – some resturants we’ve been to for years and she still orders the same thing off the menu everytime, I don’t care as long as she’s calm and eating!) to which he said “If she’s going to eat off the kids menu I won’t bother taking her we go to experience the new food not the chicken f**king nuggets especially as once we’ve been I won’t go again” and stomped off to the car.

In the car on the way back he says he gets fed up of the same places all the time, in an ideal world he’d go once or twice to a restaurant then try somewhere else and in his day DD would have just had to put up with eating what she was told where she was told to eat it. Which resulted in a meltdown from DD and her kicking the back of my chair as I was driving. Dad called her a spoilt brat and said “No wonder your dad doesn’t want you” – ExH sees DD eowend for 2 nights but lives less than 5 minutes’ walk from us, he refuses extra contact and told me via a solicitor that he’d prefer me not to remind of our marriage by forcing him to have DD more (a whole other thread)

He's since text me to tell me I undermined him to my DD, we could of gone somewhere else for a change and I could of made her eat whatever I wanted her to but I pander to her. Apparently I spoilt a lovely day out by spoiling my DD. He says at DDs age I would have just eaten whatever - I'm NT and not fussy at all (there's 3 foods I don't eat) so it was ok when I was DDs age if we changed the plan or went somewhere new.

Do I spoil DD? And did I spoil DD by not insisting we go somewhere else or forcing her to try something else?

OP posts:
Dreambouse · 18/05/2025 19:40

No it's not unreasonable of you to consider your DDs needs when choosing where and what to eat.

This is absolutely disgusting:

Dad called her a spoilt brat and said “No wonder your dad doesn’t want you”

I'd keep him away from her for her sake.

Dryshampoofordays · 18/05/2025 19:41

You sound like a great mum - that’s a wonderful way to support her with food. Your dad sounds like a monster and I’m so sorry for you and your dd. tell her you’re so sorry he said those things to her and emphasise he was in the wrong and that she didn’t deserve it. Then never subject her to him again.

FadedRed · 18/05/2025 19:41

First reply sums it up.
Your father is a nasty, selfish bully and you should keep your daughter away from him.

BeingATwatItsABingThing · 18/05/2025 19:41

Your dad sounds like a prize twat and I would limit the contact he has with you and your DD. Her dad sounds even worse and I wouldn’t want him anywhere near her.

Fearfulsaints · 18/05/2025 19:42

He sounds like a spoilt 2 year old himself.

Who tells a child thier dad doesn't want them.

RobinHeartella · 18/05/2025 19:42

Dad called her a spoilt brat and said “No wonder your dad doesn’t want you”

You can't be serious, this is so abusive. Please leave this man, for the sake of your daughter

Edit - sorry I thought he's the stepdad! It's the grandad! Even better, just don't see him

Evaka · 18/05/2025 19:43

Your dad is horrible.

BeingATwatItsABingThing · 18/05/2025 19:43

RobinHeartella · 18/05/2025 19:42

Dad called her a spoilt brat and said “No wonder your dad doesn’t want you”

You can't be serious, this is so abusive. Please leave this man, for the sake of your daughter

Edit - sorry I thought he's the stepdad! It's the grandad! Even better, just don't see him

Edited

It’s the OP’s dad!

Edit- you edited quicker than I could post! 😂

RobinHeartella · 18/05/2025 19:44

BeingATwatItsABingThing · 18/05/2025 19:43

It’s the OP’s dad!

Edit- you edited quicker than I could post! 😂

Edited

Yes I realised my mistake immediately.

Absolutely no need to see an abusive grandfather. I don't think they need to have a pub lunch with him ever again, imo

Danioyellow · 18/05/2025 19:44

RobinHeartella · 18/05/2025 19:42

Dad called her a spoilt brat and said “No wonder your dad doesn’t want you”

You can't be serious, this is so abusive. Please leave this man, for the sake of your daughter

Edit - sorry I thought he's the stepdad! It's the grandad! Even better, just don't see him

Edited

This. What was your reaction after this man who is not her father, abused your daughter in front of you??

Crunchymum · 18/05/2025 19:45

Dad called her a spoilt brat and said “No wonder your dad doesn’t want you”

Your dad is a nasty cunt and that's the last time he'd be anywhere near my child.

MolkosTeenageAngst · 18/05/2025 19:45

He told his granddaughter ‘no wonder your dad didn’t want you’!? That’s emotional abuse and I would never have him see her again. He sounds awful.

youcannaecallherfanny · 18/05/2025 19:45

Bloody hell, what your dad said was truly awful and unforgivable

IMadeSomeReal · 18/05/2025 19:45

It's not about the food; it's the vile and abusive language he uses to her. Saying it's no wonder her dad doesn't want her is utterly unforgivable and deeply damaging. She shouldn't be around someone who speaks to her like that.

FigsOfFury · 18/05/2025 19:47

My dad is a bit like this - he genuinely thinks Autism can be slapped out of a kid. Some people will never understand that we parent according to what’s best for our child, not for us. I hope you don’t subject your little one to him again.

TheignT · 18/05/2025 19:47

Your dad said something truly vile and pretty much unforgivable. I wouldn't be going out for a meal with him again at least until he accepts that was not something he should have said and apologises to your daughter.

ManchesterGirl2 · 18/05/2025 19:47

Your dad is abusive. Id be keeping well away from him.

Scottishskifun · 18/05/2025 19:48

Your child is a child and honestly even getting to a restaurant is an achievement.

Your dad on the other hand has acted like a spoilt teenager and caused your daughter emotional pain with very hurtful words, he's the very grown adult here and needs to recognise his behaviour was abhorrent

petalll · 18/05/2025 19:48

He sounds horrendous. I would never allow him around my daughter again after that. What he said about her dad is unforgivable and probably unforgettable for your daughter. Only way to remove weight from what he has said is to create distance with him to show he’s not someone you like/should listen to. If you keep going as normal then it means she will think she needs to pay attention to his awful opinions and that you rate him as a person. So sorry this happened!

Maray1967 · 18/05/2025 19:48

He swore and said what he said about her father - time to stop making her see him.

I think many of us have had comments from parents on our DCs’ perceived food fussiness. In our case we made it clear that we were the parents and it was our view that matters eg if DC eats well enough for us, that’s fine. Together with a suggestion that if they’re not happy with that, perhaps they’d prefer it if we don’t go out for meals with them - all delivered in a cheery, pleasant voice.

Maray1967 · 18/05/2025 19:50

But - our DCs’ DGPs never said anything vile to them as your dad has …

ARichtGoodDram · 18/05/2025 19:50

“No wonder your dad doesn’t want you”

That would be the last time he joined us for food. Or anything.

Until such times a serious and genuine apology he'd be nowhere near my child.

Her self esteem will already be hit hard by her father, the last thing she needs is her grandfather also making her feel shit.

latetothefisting · 18/05/2025 19:50

The way you write suggests this is not the first time your dad has spoken to you/dd like this, so why on earth do you see him? I'd expect someone with a healthy relationship with a parent to be gobsmacked if their dad had come out with what he'd said, but you've brushed over that and are just worrying about food?

The easy solution if he had just addressed it like a normal person and said he prefers to eat different places would have been to just not eat out together - he can eat at new places with his partner/friends/social group/any other family members, and you and dd can meet up with him and do other stuff. But fuck that, I'd keep someone who swore at me and told my child she was spoiled and it was no wonder her dad didn't want her out of my life full stop.

DoAWheelie · 18/05/2025 19:50

Forcing her to eat non safe foods is just going to add trama to her already restricted eating and will limit her options even more.

I have ARFID even as an adult and it is 100% not a choice for me to eat how I do. If I'm forced to eat something not safe I'll gag and vomit and then be unable to eat anything similar to that food for up to a year afterward, even foods that were previously safe.

I did need to learn to be happy with picking a couple of random sides (e.g chips and garlic bread) and having a snack when I got home if there wasn't a proper meal I could eat though - and it wouldn't be unreasonable to get her to do this. It depends on if she has safe foods that turn up in the common side plates list though.

Fearfulsaints · 18/05/2025 19:51

On the food front, building up familiar places and allowing to eat safe foods is absolutely the right thing to do. Restaurants are so dissimilar to home, they arent the place to try new things if you have those kinds of needs. Too much noice and social interaction to deal with.