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I spoil my DD by not forcing her to eat her none safe foods, AIBU?

176 replies

ResturantWithMyDad · 18/05/2025 19:36

I’ll preface this with my DD (aged 10, almost 11, school year 6) has SN and a disability so we tend to try to keep things the same.

Went to a pub for Sunday lunch after an event for my dads social group. Decided on a pub DD and I go to regularly – Dads been once before and enjoyed it.

I paid for the meals but dad moaned and moaned saying it was expensive for what it was, and it was only good last time because it was a novelty for him. He says he gets fed up of going to the same places time and again and can we try somewhere new.

I said next time he can book and choose but can he warn me in advance so I can check the menu and make sure there’s something DD can/will eat (she has a few allergies of uncommon foods but also when she’s somewhere new has safe foods she eats until she feels safe – usually off the kids menu – nuggets/fish fingers/sausages and then when we’ve been a few times she’ll try something off the main/adult menu but alongside her safe meal and we build up from there – some resturants we’ve been to for years and she still orders the same thing off the menu everytime, I don’t care as long as she’s calm and eating!) to which he said “If she’s going to eat off the kids menu I won’t bother taking her we go to experience the new food not the chicken f**king nuggets especially as once we’ve been I won’t go again” and stomped off to the car.

In the car on the way back he says he gets fed up of the same places all the time, in an ideal world he’d go once or twice to a restaurant then try somewhere else and in his day DD would have just had to put up with eating what she was told where she was told to eat it. Which resulted in a meltdown from DD and her kicking the back of my chair as I was driving. Dad called her a spoilt brat and said “No wonder your dad doesn’t want you” – ExH sees DD eowend for 2 nights but lives less than 5 minutes’ walk from us, he refuses extra contact and told me via a solicitor that he’d prefer me not to remind of our marriage by forcing him to have DD more (a whole other thread)

He's since text me to tell me I undermined him to my DD, we could of gone somewhere else for a change and I could of made her eat whatever I wanted her to but I pander to her. Apparently I spoilt a lovely day out by spoiling my DD. He says at DDs age I would have just eaten whatever - I'm NT and not fussy at all (there's 3 foods I don't eat) so it was ok when I was DDs age if we changed the plan or went somewhere new.

Do I spoil DD? And did I spoil DD by not insisting we go somewhere else or forcing her to try something else?

OP posts:
gavisconismyfriend · 18/05/2025 22:23

Someone behaved like a spoilt brat but it wasn’t your DD! And he said some very hurtful things too. I’d refuse to go for further meals with him until he promised to behave better!

Throwitawayagain · 18/05/2025 22:23

The only spoiled brat is your Dad.

M103 · 18/05/2025 22:24

Your dad's the spoilt brat here. Why doesn't he eat whatever wherever you take him, but wants a new restaurant each time etc etc?? I would keep him away from DD. He does not treat her well.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 18/05/2025 22:28

FadedRed · 18/05/2025 19:41

First reply sums it up.
Your father is a nasty, selfish bully and you should keep your daughter away from him.

Exactly this.

Soontobesingles · 18/05/2025 22:32

Few things going on here:
your dad is absolutely out of line for saying that your DD is unwanted by her father. Particularly as that seems to be true. You need to firmly draw a boundary with your father.

It is probably not a great idea to take your dad out with you and DD, because while for you life and all social occasions are primarily about meetings DD’s needs, your father cannot or will not centre her in social occasions. He wants her to be a ‘normal well behaved child’, which she is not.

Are DD’s needs part of the reason her father is not seeing her more regularly? Did they feature as part of your break up?

Parenting a child with high needs is challenging. It is true I think that many people tip the balance too far towards centring the ND child utterly to the point it ultimately does them a disservice, as part of raising any child is moving them to independence and teaching them to realise their needs are not always more important than the needs of others.

YANBU in this scenario but only you know whether you are unreasonably allowing your DD’s needs to utterly dictate your life and the life of those who you come into contact with. You could be the world’s greatest parent, you could need to revisit some aspects of what you are doing - only you really know.

Caerulea · 18/05/2025 22:33

What your dad said is unforgivable. Just unimaginably cruel.

Easipeelerie · 18/05/2025 22:36

I’d keep her away from him where possible. He’s rude and unkind and she doesn’t need that.

ShakeUpYourTiredEyes · 18/05/2025 22:40

If one of my parents behaved like.or said things like that to me, to my or about my ND children one with ARFID and one who only likes what they like, best believe they wouldn't be seeing me or either of my children again.

KaleQueen · 18/05/2025 22:41

Get away from your dad, that’s shocking. I literally gasped out loud when I read what your dad said about her father.

Uberella · 18/05/2025 22:45

Crunchymum · 18/05/2025 19:45

Dad called her a spoilt brat and said “No wonder your dad doesn’t want you”

Your dad is a nasty cunt and that's the last time he'd be anywhere near my child.

This comment nails it;withdraw access to your daughter;he has no patience nor understanding of his own grandchild’s additional needs.

RareGoalsVerge · 18/05/2025 22:45

You aren't bring unreasonable. You're a good mum.

Your dad is a pretty horrible person though. I think that's the end of any meals out with him. Plenty of ways to spend time with eachother that doesn't require eating a meal.

ChaToilLeam · 18/05/2025 22:45

Keep your DD away from your hideous father, what he said was unforgivable. I can't believe you are not more shocked by this and can only conclude that you are used to him being horrible. Your ex sounds like he is cut from similar cloth.

GreenCandleWax · 18/05/2025 22:48

Dreambouse · 18/05/2025 19:40

No it's not unreasonable of you to consider your DDs needs when choosing where and what to eat.

This is absolutely disgusting:

Dad called her a spoilt brat and said “No wonder your dad doesn’t want you”

I'd keep him away from her for her sake.

Yes, because if you pander to DF now, your DD will feel that that disgusting hurtful remark by DF does not really matter to you. She will always feel let down by her DM, so you need to choose her not your miserable-sounding DF. What does it matter where he eats compared with hurting a child with a remark like that? Drop him for a time, then keep your distance, so DD knows you are on her side.

AnxiousOCDMum · 18/05/2025 22:49

Dreambouse · 18/05/2025 19:40

No it's not unreasonable of you to consider your DDs needs when choosing where and what to eat.

This is absolutely disgusting:

Dad called her a spoilt brat and said “No wonder your dad doesn’t want you”

I'd keep him away from her for her sake.

This

StopStartStop · 18/05/2025 22:53

Dad called her a spoilt brat and said “No wonder your dad doesn’t want you”
That 'Dad' needs to go, now. Put your child first. 'No wonder your dad doesn't want you'. That's lasting harm to your child.

Bowies · 18/05/2025 22:55

I wouldn’t be arranging more meals, your dad is the spoilt brat and he behaved appallingly to DD. What he said was unforgivable IMO.

ttcat37 · 18/05/2025 22:56

Dad called her a spoilt brat and said “No wonder your dad doesn’t want you”

This is unforgivable. It would be the end of the relationship with my father if he said this.

sprigatito · 18/05/2025 23:01

I would have said thank goodness we don’t live in “your day”, Dad, when children were bullied and assaulted into choking down food that made them heave, and arrogant intolerant men were free to abuse their families with impunity because nobody dared to stand up to them. And that would be the last thing I ever said to him.

Sunbeam01 · 18/05/2025 23:06

Dad called her a spoilt brat and said “No wonder your dad doesn’t want you”

What a nasty POS your dad is. To say that to a child is unthinkable, let alone her own grandfather.

Protect your daughters self esteem and tell him to pick on someone his own size.

Duchessofcakes · 18/05/2025 23:08

The men in your life are dire. No wonder you ended up with a husband like that given how your dad is.

I feel bad for you and your daughter.

I wouldn’t let your dad have any further contact.

YANBU, of course.

Duchessofcakes · 18/05/2025 23:09

GreenCandleWax · 18/05/2025 22:48

Yes, because if you pander to DF now, your DD will feel that that disgusting hurtful remark by DF does not really matter to you. She will always feel let down by her DM, so you need to choose her not your miserable-sounding DF. What does it matter where he eats compared with hurting a child with a remark like that? Drop him for a time, then keep your distance, so DD knows you are on her side.

This exactly.

YANBU but YABU if you continue to let your dad have access to your daughter.

JustSawJohnny · 18/05/2025 23:34

Your Dad sounds like an absolute bastard, OP.

If either of my parents spoke to/about my ND child like that, especially in front of them, I would go NC in a heartbeat.

The irony of your Dad suggesting DD is 'spoiled' when he was acting like a toddler and having a little mardy because he wasn't getting his way is just laughable.

It's sad that you've had to come here to ask if YABU, because it's incredibly obvious that the unreasonable one here is him.

Bootlebride · 18/05/2025 23:39

Your dad sounds absolutely horrible, especially since he was being quite fussy and controlling himself in the choice of restaurant! If he's desperate to try new things he can just go on his own.

Flossflower · 18/05/2025 23:41

Your father sounds like a truly horrible person.
You do realise you do not have to see him so much.

RawBloomers · 18/05/2025 23:56

You aren't spoiling or pandering to her, you're accommodating her needs and taking things at her pace. You sound like a lovely mum.

I'm with those thinking your response to your dad should be along the lines of "I think it's more acceptable to make allowances for a child with disabilities than pander to a middle age man throwing a hissy fit like a toddler."

Don't take him for food next time. Just go with your DD. Go where you like and let her eat whatever you think is good.