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I spoil my DD by not forcing her to eat her none safe foods, AIBU?

176 replies

ResturantWithMyDad · 18/05/2025 19:36

I’ll preface this with my DD (aged 10, almost 11, school year 6) has SN and a disability so we tend to try to keep things the same.

Went to a pub for Sunday lunch after an event for my dads social group. Decided on a pub DD and I go to regularly – Dads been once before and enjoyed it.

I paid for the meals but dad moaned and moaned saying it was expensive for what it was, and it was only good last time because it was a novelty for him. He says he gets fed up of going to the same places time and again and can we try somewhere new.

I said next time he can book and choose but can he warn me in advance so I can check the menu and make sure there’s something DD can/will eat (she has a few allergies of uncommon foods but also when she’s somewhere new has safe foods she eats until she feels safe – usually off the kids menu – nuggets/fish fingers/sausages and then when we’ve been a few times she’ll try something off the main/adult menu but alongside her safe meal and we build up from there – some resturants we’ve been to for years and she still orders the same thing off the menu everytime, I don’t care as long as she’s calm and eating!) to which he said “If she’s going to eat off the kids menu I won’t bother taking her we go to experience the new food not the chicken f**king nuggets especially as once we’ve been I won’t go again” and stomped off to the car.

In the car on the way back he says he gets fed up of the same places all the time, in an ideal world he’d go once or twice to a restaurant then try somewhere else and in his day DD would have just had to put up with eating what she was told where she was told to eat it. Which resulted in a meltdown from DD and her kicking the back of my chair as I was driving. Dad called her a spoilt brat and said “No wonder your dad doesn’t want you” – ExH sees DD eowend for 2 nights but lives less than 5 minutes’ walk from us, he refuses extra contact and told me via a solicitor that he’d prefer me not to remind of our marriage by forcing him to have DD more (a whole other thread)

He's since text me to tell me I undermined him to my DD, we could of gone somewhere else for a change and I could of made her eat whatever I wanted her to but I pander to her. Apparently I spoilt a lovely day out by spoiling my DD. He says at DDs age I would have just eaten whatever - I'm NT and not fussy at all (there's 3 foods I don't eat) so it was ok when I was DDs age if we changed the plan or went somewhere new.

Do I spoil DD? And did I spoil DD by not insisting we go somewhere else or forcing her to try something else?

OP posts:
Mama2many73 · 18/05/2025 19:52

I'm with @Dreambouse .

Firstly she IS a child and can therefore eat off the child's menu.
Secondly what harm is it for her to choose a meal she likes, even if it's on her 'safe list.
Thirdly she will, when comfortable try a new food.
Fourthly she has additional needs which need a different type of nurture to an NT child.
Finally she needs people around her who love her and care for her and she needs to be shielded from people who don't, who choose to punish and name call and be downright arseholes and that includes your Dad.* *

I personally would put up with alot aimed at me but I'm really sorry but you target my child and I'm nit gonna apologise for how I react.
Your dad is all about his way and sod everyone else, it's controlling and manipulative and he feels it's OK to speak to you and about your daughter like that, sorry but there'd be no contact at all.

Has your dad ever put uour needs first? Did uou marry a man with similar traits?

Fargo79 · 18/05/2025 19:53

Forget the food FFS. I mean, obviously he's been an ableist arsehole about that. But it pales into insignificance against this:

No wonder your dad doesn't want you

Come on, OP. I'm going to assume that you've got a history of trauma relating to this abusive man which is clouding your judgement and/or your ability to break free of him. But you have to find a way to put your daughter first and protect her from him. He shouldn't be anywhere near her again.

Ecrire · 18/05/2025 19:55

You are giving your daughter quite significant issues with men by continuing to keep these prize men in her life with any degree of regularity.

yeesh · 18/05/2025 19:55

Your father is a horrible man and the one who is acting spoilt & ungrateful for a meal YOU paid for! A lot of 10 year olds would want to eat from the kids menu regardless of additional needs or not. I think your daughter is doing really well and you are a great mum. I wouldn’t forgive my dad dad for what he said about her dad not wanting her, totally vile.

LushLemonTart · 18/05/2025 19:55

Your dad's a cunt and so are those voting yabu

tinyspiny · 18/05/2025 19:55

Well for a start you are doing all the right things with your daughter and your dad sounds like a nasty piece of work and after todays little outburst I’d be going very very low or no contact with him . Horrible man . Who on earth is voting that the OP is unreasonable ?

Jamfirstest · 18/05/2025 19:57

This is emotional abuse from mgf. Please keep him away from your lovely dd.

I was the kid with safe foods. I grew up with daily grief from adults about it. Eventually my mum had me on her own and she just let me pick my own foods every week in the supermarket. I was painfully thin until I was about 25 but it could have been worse. When I was 25 I met a new friend who had a sister so severely anorexic she was hospitalised repeatedly. New friend just got it instantly. We went travelling together and she very quietly taught me to enjoy food again. She really is an amazing woman.

Op you are doing just fine with your dd on your own x

ScoobyBooby · 18/05/2025 19:57

Wow that’s unforgivable !
My child is autistic and has ARFID , I would absolutely all day long pick a restaurant I knew they would eat at over my own needs !
Grandad needs to wise up !!

BakelikeBertha · 18/05/2025 19:57

I agree with everyone else OP, you really shouldn't let your Dad have contact with your daughter until/unless he apologises to her profusely. What a dreadful thing to say to her! As a Mum, I don't think I could forgive that, even from my own Father.

Was your Father like this with you when you were growing up OP, or is he just becoming a grumpy old man, as he ages?

TheAutumnCrow · 18/05/2025 19:59

I’m guessing it’s because of your shitty father that you were socialised into picking a shitty husband like your Ex.

It’s more common than you might know, OP. I’m glad you reached out here for advice Flowers.

SunnySideDeepDown · 18/05/2025 20:01

Are you going to let your dad talk to your daughter like that?

Marianwallace · 18/05/2025 20:01

I’m a grandparent. Can’t believe what I’ve just read. Your father sounds vile. Your DD is a child and even without ND she should be able to eat what she’s happy with when out. Why can’t he try fancy restaurants with friends? Has he got any? Why the drama when eating out with his daughter and granddaughter?

isolate34 · 18/05/2025 20:01

Sounds like your dad is a complete bully, who says that to a child, shouldn't he be furious at her father for not seeing her much?? I wouldn't be going out for any more lunches with him op.

WhichOneIsPosher · 18/05/2025 20:01

LushLemonTart · 18/05/2025 19:55

Your dad's a cunt and so are those voting yabu

This. Who the fuck is thinking the OP is BU??

SaintAgatha · 18/05/2025 20:02

For his comments alone I’d be telling him to get fucked.

arcticpandas · 18/05/2025 20:02

ARichtGoodDram · 18/05/2025 19:50

“No wonder your dad doesn’t want you”

That would be the last time he joined us for food. Or anything.

Until such times a serious and genuine apology he'd be nowhere near my child.

Her self esteem will already be hit hard by her father, the last thing she needs is her grandfather also making her feel shit.

This. It's not even about the food. How dare he hurt the little one's feelings like this. What a vile man i wouldn't see him again, your dd needs secure loving people in her life.

28Fluctuations · 18/05/2025 20:02

Ya know what? The repetition is boring for you, too. But you do it because dd needs you to give up food you like and enjoy, and any spark of spontieity. Because she can't cope. It sucks for you most of all. And your Dad's response - rather than to offer you some sympathy and comraderie - is to throw a tantrum over a restaurant choice and say frankly unforgivable things.

I know what you're going through. The self-censoring of your own food preferences as dc won't eat that. Or that. Or that. SN are difficult to navigate and you are striking the best balance that you can.

Your Dad should be ashamed of himself.

Shesellsseashellsnotinmystreet · 18/05/2025 20:03

Op I went nc with my df for a lot less.... What logic do you have for allowing him in your lives at all?

Merryoldgoat · 18/05/2025 20:03

I’d have nothing to do with my dad if he spoke to my child that way.

Fairyvocals · 18/05/2025 20:05

Your dad is a total shit. I’m so sorry.

drspouse · 18/05/2025 20:06

Your DF sounds like my DM only a million times worse.
(And your DD sounds a lot like my DS and we are really proud of how he's trying new foods and going to new restaurants. So should you be. Our rule even at home is we make sure there's one thing on the plate he eats and nobody needs to eat everything on their plate).

IveGotAnUnusuallyLargePelvisISwear · 18/05/2025 20:06

Come on OP, you know you’re not spoiling your daughter. Your AIBU really should be “should I tell my dad to fuck off or tell him to fuck off all the way off”?

Honestly, the man sounds like a big spoilt baby. I’d happily never bother with him again for saying something so awful and damaging to my child.

RobinHeartella · 18/05/2025 20:07

I misread initially that it was the stepdad because I could almost (almost!) understand being frustrated eating at the same place a lot with your partner. But this is your dad, he can eat wherever he bloody likes when he's not seeing his granddaughter.

My kids' grandparents are always so pleased to see them, they'd literally eat anything if it meant getting to have a meal with their grandkids.

Hankunamatata · 18/05/2025 20:08

Who cares what dd eats when out!

MummyJ36 · 18/05/2025 20:09

It is disgusting that he said this anyway but the fact that he did it in front of your DD and then added the comment about her dad not wanting her is truly unforgivable. All over pub lunch. Agree with others that he’s the one that sounds like a spoiled brat. I would absolutely want nothing to do with him after this.