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I spoil my DD by not forcing her to eat her none safe foods, AIBU?

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ResturantWithMyDad · 18/05/2025 19:36

I’ll preface this with my DD (aged 10, almost 11, school year 6) has SN and a disability so we tend to try to keep things the same.

Went to a pub for Sunday lunch after an event for my dads social group. Decided on a pub DD and I go to regularly – Dads been once before and enjoyed it.

I paid for the meals but dad moaned and moaned saying it was expensive for what it was, and it was only good last time because it was a novelty for him. He says he gets fed up of going to the same places time and again and can we try somewhere new.

I said next time he can book and choose but can he warn me in advance so I can check the menu and make sure there’s something DD can/will eat (she has a few allergies of uncommon foods but also when she’s somewhere new has safe foods she eats until she feels safe – usually off the kids menu – nuggets/fish fingers/sausages and then when we’ve been a few times she’ll try something off the main/adult menu but alongside her safe meal and we build up from there – some resturants we’ve been to for years and she still orders the same thing off the menu everytime, I don’t care as long as she’s calm and eating!) to which he said “If she’s going to eat off the kids menu I won’t bother taking her we go to experience the new food not the chicken f**king nuggets especially as once we’ve been I won’t go again” and stomped off to the car.

In the car on the way back he says he gets fed up of the same places all the time, in an ideal world he’d go once or twice to a restaurant then try somewhere else and in his day DD would have just had to put up with eating what she was told where she was told to eat it. Which resulted in a meltdown from DD and her kicking the back of my chair as I was driving. Dad called her a spoilt brat and said “No wonder your dad doesn’t want you” – ExH sees DD eowend for 2 nights but lives less than 5 minutes’ walk from us, he refuses extra contact and told me via a solicitor that he’d prefer me not to remind of our marriage by forcing him to have DD more (a whole other thread)

He's since text me to tell me I undermined him to my DD, we could of gone somewhere else for a change and I could of made her eat whatever I wanted her to but I pander to her. Apparently I spoilt a lovely day out by spoiling my DD. He says at DDs age I would have just eaten whatever - I'm NT and not fussy at all (there's 3 foods I don't eat) so it was ok when I was DDs age if we changed the plan or went somewhere new.

Do I spoil DD? And did I spoil DD by not insisting we go somewhere else or forcing her to try something else?

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Zanatdy · 18/05/2025 20:09

What a disgusting thing he said about her dad. That would be it for me, absolutely appalling way to treat your child.

Edenmum2 · 18/05/2025 20:10

Yeah if my Dad said that about my DD’s father I would never let him near her again

SafeToUse · 18/05/2025 20:10

Dad called her a spoilt brat and said “No wonder your dad doesn’t want you”.

I'd have stopped the car there and then and told him to find his own way home.

OP you do realise that this isn't normal? I have a feeling that you are very accustomed to remarks like this. But you need to keep your DD well away from this toxic man. And her father too by the sounds of it. No good will come of them.

You're doing nothing wrong with your DC, parenting involves negotiating with and managing our kids at the best of times. Keep doing what you're doing, and protect her from the arsehole grandfather and father.

Vaxtable · 18/05/2025 20:10

Your father was nasty how dare he talk like that in front of your daughter

i would send him info on ND and tell him to read and understand and until he apologies for his comments he can go where the hell he likes but you and your daughter won’t be going.

I would be taking a large step back from him

TimeForABreak4 · 18/05/2025 20:12

He said to a ten year old child "no wonder your dad doesn't want you". That is fucking disgusting. I'd never be seeing anyone who said that to my child ever again, regardless of who they were. Your dad's a nasty man.

Tagyoureit · 18/05/2025 20:12

You really need to spend a lot less time with your father, what an absolute fuck nugget to say to his own grandchild “No wonder your dad doesn’t want you”!!

Please tell me you handed him his arse over that??

MayaPinion · 18/05/2025 20:12

He’s an abusive prick and I wouldn’t let him near you or your DD again. It is absolutely not acceptable for him to talk to you or your DD like that.

The purpose of a family meal is to enjoy time with family. It doesn’t matter what each person chooses, and it’s completely acceptable for a 10 year old to choose something she likes from the kids menu. Nobody goes into a restaurant to order something they are unlikely to enjoy so why should she?

Bestfootforward11 · 18/05/2025 20:13

Your dad sounds awful. Who says that to a kid- no wonder your dad doesn’t want you?? Good lord. He needs to be grovelling to you and your DD with an apology and even if that happened I don’t think he is a positive influence in your lives and should be held at arms length. All this moaning about the restaurant, he just needs to grow up and stop being so self absorbed. You sound like a great mum, don’t let this nonsense make you doubt yourself. You know your child best and I’m sure will make the choices that best support her.

TeaAndToast8 · 18/05/2025 20:14

Your dad sounds like a nasty wanker, The “No wonder your dad doesn’t want to see you comment” would be it for me and I wouldn’t have him around my child.

ridl14 · 18/05/2025 20:15

I get really irritated by fussy eating but wow for a child with SN you sound like you're doing amazingly!

Your dad sounds like an absolute prick, I wouldn't have anyone round my child who used their deadbeat dad to be nasty to them.

Createausername1970 · 18/05/2025 20:17

If it were me, my dad wouldn't be spending any more time with my daughter, and I would tell him very clearly why not and I wouldn't be arranging to drive him to restaurants.

He can go and be picky on his own, under his own steam and keep his unpleasant comments to himself.

I wouldn't necessarily cut contact with him, but having any further contact with DD would be on hold.

Outrageistheopiateofthemasses · 18/05/2025 20:17

With regards to your question, I honestly don't know. Only you know your child and how flexible she can or can't be. It's not for me to say.

However your father's comment was both unacceptable and disgraceful. What a truly mean man.

S0j0urn4r · 18/05/2025 20:17

You and your DD need to go no contact with your abusive twat father.

UnbeatenMum · 18/05/2025 20:20

If someone treated me or one of my autistic children like that we would not be eating out together for the foreseeable future.

Mrsttcno1 · 18/05/2025 20:21

Your dad is a cunt, that would be the last time he had access to me or my daughter personally- the comment about her dad is unforgivable.

As a side note though, even if you take SN, disability, needing safe foods etc out of it for that reason, since when is it so strange that a 10 year old would order something from the kids menu? I would say lots of 10 year olds still do this anyway just as a matter of course, I honestly can’t understand the issue your dad has with this and I also can’t understand what difference it makes to him what she eats. Unless you’re forcing everyone at the table to eat the same meal DD chooses I honestly cannot imagine why he is bothered at all.

2024onwardsandup · 18/05/2025 20:22

I would never let him see my daughter again after saying that to her about her father - let alone although the other awfulmstuff

get a backbone and protect your daughter

BangersAndGnash · 18/05/2025 20:23

Has your Dad always been this bad tempered, self absorbed and nasty?

It needn’t concern him what your Dd eats, it doesn’t stop him eating what he wants to eat.

And his horrible manners, complaining when you were paying, pale into significance against his emotionally abusive attack on your Dd.

I would tell him that he will not be seeing you and your Dd if he speaks to her like that again.

AgnesX · 18/05/2025 20:23

Your dad's a pretentious prick. What an awful thing to say to your daughter.

I'd be giving him the cold shoulder for a while.

Maybethisallthereis · 18/05/2025 20:23

If my dad said ‘no wonder your dad doesn’t want you’ to my child, I wouldn’t be seeing him again. What a horrible thing to say. I can’t imagine how that would have made her feel.
He’s horrible and you sound lovely and caring.

Bumdrops · 18/05/2025 20:24

Omg -
please don’t question yourself -
you sound great
your dad is a dick head - about this issue at least (not unusual attitude towards kids / eating in older generation however)

MaidOfSteel · 18/05/2025 20:25

Your post has upset me, OP, on behalf of your daughter.

I have eating problems which sound similar to your daughter’s. When I was a kid, we never went to restaurants etc but now my husband is always sure to take me to my ‘safe’ places. And I love him dearly for it. On reading what your dad said to your daughter, I felt so bad for her. All because he was angry at making allowances for his own grandkid. How do you get over something like that at such a young age.

You don’t spoil her, OP, you protect her. Keep on doing that if she needs it, and please don’t subject her to her own cruel grandad.

MILLYmo0se · 18/05/2025 20:25

Forget the food and focus on what he said to your child. It is difficult enough to cope as a child that knows she doesn't 'fit in' but to be told her dad doesn't want her because of who she is, how she is? He shouldn't get to experience the privilege he has of being a grandfather any more.
Also he has no manners, who dragged him up?! If someone buys you dinner you say 'thank you that was lovely', you don't whinge about it being boring!

minnienono · 18/05/2025 20:26

I must admit I’m on the fence, whilst i can understand wanting your dd to be happy, pandering to very limited menu choices is a self fulfilling prophecy.

I had a child who only drank fortified milk and fries at age 3, I mean only! But through a combination of bribery, perseverance and bloody mindlessness on my part over the next 10 years I got her eating a normal diet, and I mean it took 10 years. It would have been easier to feed her the handful of safe foods she had at age 5 forever trust me but I didn’t want her to be limited in her life. The same applied to every other aspect, I refused to let the school system dump her in special education like they wanted to and insisted she got a proper education, she has a degree now.

getting a child to eat is really hard but you play the long game and yes bribery was key (her autism meant she was obsessive, meaning i could use her obsession to get her to try foods very slowly.

Clarinet1 · 18/05/2025 20:27

I agree with those who say that the comment about your DD’s father was unforgivable and you should reduce contact with your father considerably, particularly where meals are concerned. He clearly doesn’t understand the needs of someone who is ND.
Also, isn’t there a sense in which, if he kept moaning about this particular restaurant, he was being just as picky as DD?

YourWildAmberSloth · 18/05/2025 20:33

Why are you inflicting this nasty man on your daughter? Why would you want to spend so much time around him? I'm guessing there is some background here, the dynamic between you and your father does not sound healthy at all. He's your father not your husband, he should not have this much say or influence over your life. As for 'next time he can choose', if he spoke to my child like that, there wouldn't be a next time. Why aren't you angry OP?