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I spoil my DD by not forcing her to eat her none safe foods, AIBU?

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ResturantWithMyDad · 18/05/2025 19:36

I’ll preface this with my DD (aged 10, almost 11, school year 6) has SN and a disability so we tend to try to keep things the same.

Went to a pub for Sunday lunch after an event for my dads social group. Decided on a pub DD and I go to regularly – Dads been once before and enjoyed it.

I paid for the meals but dad moaned and moaned saying it was expensive for what it was, and it was only good last time because it was a novelty for him. He says he gets fed up of going to the same places time and again and can we try somewhere new.

I said next time he can book and choose but can he warn me in advance so I can check the menu and make sure there’s something DD can/will eat (she has a few allergies of uncommon foods but also when she’s somewhere new has safe foods she eats until she feels safe – usually off the kids menu – nuggets/fish fingers/sausages and then when we’ve been a few times she’ll try something off the main/adult menu but alongside her safe meal and we build up from there – some resturants we’ve been to for years and she still orders the same thing off the menu everytime, I don’t care as long as she’s calm and eating!) to which he said “If she’s going to eat off the kids menu I won’t bother taking her we go to experience the new food not the chicken f**king nuggets especially as once we’ve been I won’t go again” and stomped off to the car.

In the car on the way back he says he gets fed up of the same places all the time, in an ideal world he’d go once or twice to a restaurant then try somewhere else and in his day DD would have just had to put up with eating what she was told where she was told to eat it. Which resulted in a meltdown from DD and her kicking the back of my chair as I was driving. Dad called her a spoilt brat and said “No wonder your dad doesn’t want you” – ExH sees DD eowend for 2 nights but lives less than 5 minutes’ walk from us, he refuses extra contact and told me via a solicitor that he’d prefer me not to remind of our marriage by forcing him to have DD more (a whole other thread)

He's since text me to tell me I undermined him to my DD, we could of gone somewhere else for a change and I could of made her eat whatever I wanted her to but I pander to her. Apparently I spoilt a lovely day out by spoiling my DD. He says at DDs age I would have just eaten whatever - I'm NT and not fussy at all (there's 3 foods I don't eat) so it was ok when I was DDs age if we changed the plan or went somewhere new.

Do I spoil DD? And did I spoil DD by not insisting we go somewhere else or forcing her to try something else?

OP posts:
Kirbert2 · 18/05/2025 20:33

She has SN and a disability, forcing her to eat wouldn't get you anywhere. You aren't spoiling her, you are considering her needs.

My son has a restricted diet due to his needs so as an example, he can only eat white bread. Sometimes I get judged but oh well, I know my child and his needs more than they do.

Your dad is awful.

Pickingdates · 18/05/2025 20:34

Your father is a nasty abusive piece of shit.

He would NEVER see my children again and I would block him AFTER telling him to NEVER contact me again.

I'm a scorched earth person though.

Isthisit22 · 18/05/2025 20:35

Please don’t allow your dad to
talk to your child like that.
I presume he’s bullied you your whole life based on how your thread is questioning yourself even though it’s obvious to all outsiders that it is him that is the nasty bully. Break the cycle and do not meet up with him anymore

IButtleSir · 18/05/2025 20:35

Keep that dickhead away from your child.

JIMER202 · 18/05/2025 20:36

He’s a complete prick. You pander to HIM. It has to stop. Stop pandering to him and his weird obsession with trying new things. Stop allowing him to bully and insult your daughter in front of her ffs! He ruined the day out by being horrible. Where is your worry for your poor DD having to be near such a nasty man.
‘Dad called her a spoilt brat and said “No wonder your dad doesn’t want you” STAND UP FOR YOUR CHILD! WHO gives a fuck what your horrible Dad thinks. What he said to your young daughter is VILE. He is a nasty piece of work and I wouldn’t be eating out with him anywhere.

User79853257976 · 18/05/2025 20:37

I don’t think I’d ever speak to him again.

F1LandoFan · 18/05/2025 20:38

He sounds like a not very nice grandpa :(

QuaintShaker · 18/05/2025 20:40

Your father sounds spoilt, and a ginormous prick to boot.

It'd be a long time before I considered seeing him again.

JIMER202 · 18/05/2025 20:40

His vile comment actually made me cry. She will already be feeling abandoned by her Dad and now she’s being told it’s her fault and for WHAT?! Because your prick Dad has an issue with what she eats. It’s NONE of his business and impacts him in no way.

Inertia · 18/05/2025 20:42

Why are you appeasing a man who is abusive to your child?

If you pay, why are you letting your father dictate where and what you and your child can eat?

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 18/05/2025 20:42

I'm going to be totally honest. I think parents now pander to children's food fads. Not a chance would my mum have put up with this (and my sister was a nightmare), nor me with our children. No wonder your Dad gets fed up really.

Kirbert2 · 18/05/2025 20:43

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 18/05/2025 20:42

I'm going to be totally honest. I think parents now pander to children's food fads. Not a chance would my mum have put up with this (and my sister was a nightmare), nor me with our children. No wonder your Dad gets fed up really.

Don't you think it's a bit different when SEN/disability/allergies are involved?

katepilar · 18/05/2025 20:44

Your dad is obviously traumatised and stuck in some childish behaviour. Its normal for people going to restaurants repeatedly. And eat they prefer. He does not get to dictate what people eat. I wonder what did his parents do to him regarding food that he is acting out like that.
The thing about your DDs dad not wanting to see her is nasty.

You are a great Mum he sees her childs needs well.

IMadeSomeReal · 18/05/2025 20:45

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 18/05/2025 20:42

I'm going to be totally honest. I think parents now pander to children's food fads. Not a chance would my mum have put up with this (and my sister was a nightmare), nor me with our children. No wonder your Dad gets fed up really.

This is a child with SEN and allergies. And what she eats doesn't affect her grandad at all - he can order what he wants and it doesn't matter if she eats chicken nuggets.

And he wasn't 'fed up', he was abusive and cruel.

NestEmptying · 18/05/2025 20:45

Are you OK OP? Has he always been like that? From your question, it seems like you maybe don't realise he's abusive.. because you've had to deal with him being like that all your life....and you're immune to it.
You don't have to see him any more. Certainly don't let him see your DD. He shouldn''t get to speak to her and you like that any more.

SleeplessInWherever · 18/05/2025 20:47

My mum doesn’t “get” autism.

Tells me fairly regularly to just ask my barely verbal stepson what’s the matter. Or that she would have “just” told him x, y and z. Have I considered telling him to stop doing certain things. Etc etc etc.

But that’s a step too far. That’s not misunderstanding your daughter’s needs and how you meet them by giving her safe eating experiences, it’s abusive and vile.

I agree with others, if my mother ever - ever - spoke about or to him like that, she’d never see me again nevermind him. Completely unacceptable.

There’s not understanding and finding it stressful, and being a prick.

DustyMaiden · 18/05/2025 20:48

Well done being a good parent, you certainly didn’t learn it from your father.

ARichtGoodDram · 18/05/2025 20:49

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 18/05/2025 20:42

I'm going to be totally honest. I think parents now pander to children's food fads. Not a chance would my mum have put up with this (and my sister was a nightmare), nor me with our children. No wonder your Dad gets fed up really.

Allergies and SEN are not "food fads"

If I didn't "pander" to my child's food needs she'd die.

CatHairEveryWhereNow · 18/05/2025 20:50

My FIL can be an awkward sod - and once IL tried to insist we go to a place with food style kids wouldn't eat. We had some words to us about spoiling them - but at no point did he say anything nasty to the kids.

IL were disappointed but we pointed out it was a meal for one of the kids birthday and having three upset kids in a restaurant would be no fun for anyone then clamed down and compromised.

We did slowly get the kids to eat that style of food - first with take-outs and then mix eating places and no-one else remembers.

FIL also didn't believe in asthma even when his brother was being blue lighted to hospital something he shared iwith amblunce people and the A&E doctor and got his arse handed to him apparently. As our kids have asthma - was quite pleased the HCP took time to do that as nothing we said impacted though they did try and work with us just though we exggerated.

My point is - being difficult about a child needs is one thing - and very annoying thing that has to be managed when they are round the child.

However to be as nasty to a child as your father was is a whole other level and not good for your DD to be around.

Kirbert2 · 18/05/2025 20:51

ARichtGoodDram · 18/05/2025 20:49

Allergies and SEN are not "food fads"

If I didn't "pander" to my child's food needs she'd die.

Mine too. Though not an allergy but the end result would be the same, a dead child.

Juststopit · 18/05/2025 20:51

You know you don’t have to see him? You owe him nothing and he sounds foul. Your poor daughter

FumingTRex · 18/05/2025 20:51

I think a lot of kids want to eat the same boring food all the time regardless of Sen, allergies etc. Just let them!! A meal out is meant to be fun for everyone, without the pressure to performance eat to prove how open-minded and cultured you are. Your dad sounds like an arse.

PlayingDevilsAdvocateisinteresting · 18/05/2025 20:53

Hi @ResturantWithMyDad, do you and your dear child live with your father, or are you very dependent on him in some other way? If so, then please come back and explain that, as I know that there are some very knowledgeable Mumsnetters around, who I'm very sure could give you some excellent advice on your horrible predicament. Unfortunately, I am not one of those Mumsnetters, but I can say quite categorically that you are a fantastic Mum, and your DC was so lucky to have been born to you. 🤗🩷xxx

Maria1982 · 18/05/2025 20:53

Dreambouse · 18/05/2025 19:40

No it's not unreasonable of you to consider your DDs needs when choosing where and what to eat.

This is absolutely disgusting:

Dad called her a spoilt brat and said “No wonder your dad doesn’t want you”

I'd keep him away from her for her sake.

First reply nailed it - your dad is horrible, you are parenting kindly and with respect towards your child and her needs.

it sounds partly like a very old fashioned version of ‘children should be seen and not heard’ - your dad wants to do things his way and not be inconvenienced by your daughter. But frankly it’s 2025, so he can get over himself or keep himself to himself !

Delphiniumandlupins · 18/05/2025 20:54

Your dad was abusive to your DD. And what the hell does it matter what she eats when you're out for a meal, especially if you're paying. Even if he is paying, so long as she's not asking for lots of food that she's not eating why does he care? He wants to try new places and you are not vetoing that. He obviously has little understanding of your DD's difficulties and may be frustrated but to speak to a child like that is not acceptable. Don't eat out with him again and tell him why.