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To expect my adult stepsons to acknowledge family birthdays

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Stepmonster50 · 17/05/2025 06:09

I’m feeling quite hurt and would really appreciate some outside perspective on this. My adult stepsons (late 20s and early 30s) have once again forgotten my daughter’s birthday, she’s 14. This has happened multiple times now, and each year I hope it’ll be different, but it never is.

I’ve been in their lives since they were teenagers. There parents had divorced before I met their Dad (my husband) I’ve always made an effort to be warm, supportive, and inclusive. I’ve done a lot for them over the years and never expected much in return, but remembering their sister’s birthday doesn’t feel like too much to ask. She’s at an age where these things matter, and she’s old enough to notice the absence.

To be honest, I have learned to live with being overlooked myself (they didn’t acknowledge my 50th last year either, despite being invited to celebrations), but the lack of consideration towards my daughters really stings. I’m starting to question how much effort I want to continue making in this dynamic when it feels so one-sided.

For background, when they see their sisters, they all get on well, they are close. They’ve been on family holidays with us, we’ve always welcomed them with friends and girlfriends. They have come to celebrate their Dad’s milestone birthdays and have a history of coming over when it suits them, rather like teens or younger adults might.

Have others experienced this with adult stepchildren? Am I expecting too much here, or is this just a case of emotional laziness on their part? I’d really appreciate honest views, genuinely trying to make sense of it all. I’ve found it really hurtful this time, and can’t really talk to my DH as he becomes very defensive of his sons.

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mixedcereal · 17/05/2025 08:59

I think they are both old enough now and should be mature enough for you to actually raise this with them. “Sister was really hurt neither of you acknowledged her birthday”. They might have forgotten, not really care about birthdays, or whatever the reason is I think they should be made aware it upset their sister. I think their response would tell you a lot about why this has happened.

DontReplyIWillLie · 17/05/2025 09:04

partridgeinasweartree · 17/05/2025 06:32

OP you may get a more sympathetic response over on the stepchildren board. You are not being unreasonable to be hurt by this in my opinion. They are grown adults and she is their sister.
if this has happened before, then why can’t their dad bring it up ahead of her birthday to make sure they acknowledge it? It’s a shame he needs to, but this is what I would do.

He doesn’t “need” to, though. As you say yourself, they’re grown adults. I wouldn’t put up with my parents trying to tell me I had to send birthday cards.

Sculpting22 · 17/05/2025 09:09

They’ve celebrated DH birthdays but what does your DH/ their dad do for their birthdays? Does he make a big deal and visit them for theirs or is only your DH who gets this? Might be learnt behaviour from SS that no ones birthday is important other than their DF (including their own)

HopingForTheBest25 · 17/05/2025 09:11

@DontReplyIWillLie would you also expect to come and go at will as you please from your parents house, to stay with no notice, come for Christmas without asking first, have your friends welcomed on family holidays? Because if a person wants all those benefits, to essentially behave like a child, then the parents have a right to treat them like a child and tell them what is expected in terms of their behaviour and obligations.
I suspect you behave like and adult and do your parents don't need to tell you what to do.

Fallenoutthewardrobe · 17/05/2025 09:11

If they send your daughter a gift or card is it acknowledged with a thank you? Does your daughter send them gifts?

I’ve opted out of family gift giving now because it was so one sided.

Butchyrestingface · 17/05/2025 09:15

I’ve found it really hurtful this time, and can’t really talk to my DH as he becomes very defensive of his sons.

So DON'T talk to him about it.

Quietly quit. Going forward, save the money you have otherwise spent on celebrating their milestones over the years and spent it on yourself and your daughters.

They don't want to mark their stepmother and half-sisters' birthdays? Cool. Can't really complain when the same happens in reverse. They're well into adulthood now, they should understand that.

Digdongdoo · 17/05/2025 09:15

Sculpting22 · 17/05/2025 09:09

They’ve celebrated DH birthdays but what does your DH/ their dad do for their birthdays? Does he make a big deal and visit them for theirs or is only your DH who gets this? Might be learnt behaviour from SS that no ones birthday is important other than their DF (including their own)

Interesting observation. There's mention of DDs birthdays, dad's birthdays, OPs birthdays. No mention of DSS's birthdays at all.

Stepmonster50 · 17/05/2025 10:44

Digdongdoo · 17/05/2025 09:15

Interesting observation. There's mention of DDs birthdays, dad's birthdays, OPs birthdays. No mention of DSS's birthdays at all.

He makes a big deal. Several people have said maybe they don’t celebrate birthdays. They do and they’ve always let us know what they’d like, including big presents for milestone birthdays.

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Stepmonster50 · 17/05/2025 10:45

Fallenoutthewardrobe · 17/05/2025 09:11

If they send your daughter a gift or card is it acknowledged with a thank you? Does your daughter send them gifts?

I’ve opted out of family gift giving now because it was so one sided.

They don’t send birthday cards or gifts. They have occasionally given small gifts (not for birthdays) after being away travelling several years ago and these were always acknowledged.

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Stepmonster50 · 17/05/2025 10:46

HopingForTheBest25 · 17/05/2025 09:11

@DontReplyIWillLie would you also expect to come and go at will as you please from your parents house, to stay with no notice, come for Christmas without asking first, have your friends welcomed on family holidays? Because if a person wants all those benefits, to essentially behave like a child, then the parents have a right to treat them like a child and tell them what is expected in terms of their behaviour and obligations.
I suspect you behave like and adult and do your parents don't need to tell you what to do.

It’s this, you’ve put it really well. Thank you

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Riaanna · 17/05/2025 10:47

Stepmonster50 · 17/05/2025 10:44

He makes a big deal. Several people have said maybe they don’t celebrate birthdays. They do and they’ve always let us know what they’d like, including big presents for milestone birthdays.

Ah there you have it. They tell you.

So tell them.

Problem solved.

Stepmonster50 · 17/05/2025 10:52

HopingForTheBest25 · 17/05/2025 08:45

People treat others how they've allowed themselves to be treated. Your step sons have been allowed to come and go at will and not ever held accountable for the times they've shown up late, or not at all, so this is their 'normal' now. Your husband has enabled them to grow up selfish and rude and you are reaping what he has sown. While they may not care much about birthdays, they should have the sense to realise that children do and make some effort for their sisters!
Your dh continues to fail you here - he should have given them a bollocking about not replying to your 50th birthday invitation or sending you a card and he should be reminding his sons that it's their sisters' birthdays and that it hurts their feelings if their big brothers don't acknowledge them. It should be your husband who teaches his sons that relationships aren't effortless and lack of input will damage them. It's basic manners really.

If they are told all this and still don't change them you both have to change how you respond to this. You are entitled to expect basic courtesy - they are adults not kids and your home is not a free hotel where they can come and go at will, with no asking in advance. Relationships are reciprocal and they are old enough to have the responsibilities as well as the rights which come with family and home.
You don't have to buy gifts for people who don't acknowledge milestone birthdays for you. It's okay to withdraw your effort. Your husband will have to draw his own line in the sand, but it wouldn't hurt to remind him that he has a duty to protect his daughters' feelings as well as his sons and this is a situation he ought to be managing.

Thank you. I was very “hands off” and deliberately didn’t parent them, but left the parenting to their parents. DH and I have had many arguments over how he’s allowed them to behave, it’s been a source of tension.

They did reply to my birthday invitation. They had both said they were coming, one with his girlfriend and on the day, neither turned up and neither sent anything.

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Stepmonster50 · 17/05/2025 10:55

Snoken · 17/05/2025 08:00

It sounds like they haven't really changed. They are just doing what they have always been doing and perhaps their step sister's birthday is not something that they remember because it isn't important to them. You just have to make sure you treat their birthdays the same. They can't choose to not celebrate you and your children but expect you to celebrate them. Their dad still should though.

I think it's really hard to create a family unit when the age difference is as big as it is in your case and you came into their lives as they were approching adulthood (or I guess the oldest was already an adult?) and in addition, their dad lives with their step siblings but not them. It often feels like two separate families and it sounds like the two sons see them and their dad as one unit and that's why they are happy to celebrate him but not you.

They have lived with us. One now lives with his partner and the other in a house share.

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BusyMum47 · 17/05/2025 10:56

@Stepmonster50

I'd be bloody furious! They're grown adults acting like spoiled children. I'd have to make it a 'thing' & call them out on it. I'd also immediately stop any birthday or Christmas cards/gifts to them. The girls are their sisters & you're their stepmum - they're being dicks!!

Stepmonster50 · 17/05/2025 11:01

Hollyhedge · 17/05/2025 08:41

That doesn’t sound great. I wonder if there is a weird psychology with step families where by you feel you never lived there, are not fully part of it, so never feel fully committed. Some people don’t bother with birthdays. I would just go along with whatever they do but not make a big effort yourself. Not much else you can do…I guess your DC won’t remember their birthdays when older so it will even out.

They have lived here

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Silsatrip · 17/05/2025 11:01

We don't really do sibling birthdays. Maybe the big ones - I don't give my siblings presents and they don't for me. Same with my husband and his siblings.

Does your daughter buy presents for her brothers? Just from her,

We would all buy for nieces and nephews but she's not their niece.

Digdongdoo · 17/05/2025 11:04

Stepmonster50 · 17/05/2025 10:44

He makes a big deal. Several people have said maybe they don’t celebrate birthdays. They do and they’ve always let us know what they’d like, including big presents for milestone birthdays.

By "he" I assume you mean their dad? But do you or your DDs mark their birthdays?

Silsatrip · 17/05/2025 11:05

Rude to say they are coming and not turn up though.

Stepmonster50 · 17/05/2025 11:17

Thank you to everyone who replied. I appreciate the range of responses and perspectives and hearing about how things work in varied ways in other blended families. I’ve got the perspectives that I came for and so am not going to post any further comments. I really appreciate everyone who helped me think this through, especially those who’d do things differently.

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TorroFerney · 17/05/2025 11:18

Stepmonster50 · 17/05/2025 06:48

Thank you. Maybe it is a gender thing, I hadn’t considered that. I haven’t stepped back over the years because I didn’t want to be churlish or tit for tat about it, but it is what I feel like doing.

It’s not a gender thing for close family but agree men are less likely to be as bothered about cards perhaps because men aren’t terrible people pleasers in general. My daughter who is 15 gets close friends presents but not cards really so perhaps they are dying out. I’d perhaps reframe it looking at whether they are generally thoughtful and decent ?

my mum didn’t get my husband a birthday card. We’ve been married 24 years, she forgot which is fine but even when she realised made no effort to do anything. But she’s generally self absorbed so not a surprise.

JHound · 17/05/2025 11:19

You are Being Unreasonable

Stepmonster50 · 17/05/2025 11:20

Digdongdoo · 17/05/2025 11:04

By "he" I assume you mean their dad? But do you or your DDs mark their birthdays?

I was answering the poster who asked ‘what does their Dad do for their birthdays?’ My DDs and I have done many different things for the stepson’s birthdays, depending on what they wanted including taking them out for lunch, baking cakes, hosting friends, contributing to travel funds, buying specific gifts etc. DDs usually make cards and now they are older call or text as well, or join in a call that my DH makes.

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Fallenoutthewardrobe · 17/05/2025 15:27

So your DD doesn’t buy them gifts? Rather goes in on a family present from you? Your DD won’t be paying into a meal or anything. I think you have set an expectation that gifts come from the parents rather than the siblings. I don’t think it’s fair to expect them to buy something for their step sister when she isn’t doing the same

mindutopia · 17/05/2025 15:33

I have a half brother, similar age gap. He’s 16 years older than me. I don’t think he’s ever acknowledged my birthday in my life. Admittedly, we have no relationship as adults. But growing up, we did see each other at family events. I honestly don’t even know when his birthday is. I’m mid 40s now so not some uni student, I’m a real grown up, but i couldn’t even guess at the month. 🤷🏻‍♀️

ThatMyKryptonite · 17/05/2025 15:47

I’ve never acknowledged my step or half siblings birthdays. I’m polite but I’m not really interested in them, it’s not the same as full siblings for me. You can’t force relationships. The fact that they acknowledge their dads birthday is completely different