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Am I as a grandmother being unreasonable?

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TheOpenBee · 17/05/2025 00:46

Please excuse this wall of text...

I'm looking for some advice on what to do with our current situation.
I have a daughter 27 who has a 3 year old son. My daughter works 3 days a week and up until December last year we looked after our grandson while she was at work on those 3 days.

Last December she split up with my grandsons father and he moved away. My daughter started bringing our grandson to us every single day, on days she wasn't working she'd be dropping him off and going home to bed saying she was tired because my grandson wasn't sleeping well without his father's presence and she'd been having a hard time at work. We accepted this for a few weeks but then it started to get silly.

My daughter works a 15 minute drive from our home. She'd finish work at 5 and instead of coming to pick her son up at 5.30 ish like normal she'd start turning up at 7 with no explanation as to where she had been.

He'd be served his evening meal at 5.30 and start getting excited that mummy would be back soon then he'd wait and wait for her as she gets later and later arriving. It breaks my heart when he keeps asking for reassurance that mummy is coming back.

When she is at our home with her son she sits on her phone ignoring him. He has to ask her for affection or to be involved in something he is doing. One example was last weekend my daughter and grandson were at my home, my grandson got a sandpit for his birthday and was stupidly excited when we said he could play in it. He went around everyone in the room asking them to put their shoes on and come and see his new toy. His mum for a change actually did what he asked and came outside, you could see his eyes light up when he saw her coming outside. She stayed maybe 5 minutes then decided whoever she was texting on the phone was more interesting and went back inside. My grandson looked at his grandad and said "she's not coming back is she" got really sad, asked for a hug then decided he didn't want to play with sand anymore and asked to go back inside himself.

My grandson is without doubt missing his mummy, he sees her for less than an hour in the morning and as his bedtime is technically 7 a lot of nights she takes him straight home to bed.

On the rare occasion she's paying him enough attention and actually praises him he gets emotional and immediately starts to cry. He craves her attention so much that when he gets it he doesn't know what to do.

Now we move on to a few weeks later and grandson has still been at our house all-day 6 days a week (his daddy has him on a Sunday) the only difference is my daughter on the 3 days she's not been working has been coming up to our house with him. She will sit on her phone texting her new boyfriend all day while we look after the child.

We talked to my daughter mentioning that we were unhappy with the current situation and our grandson can't be with us all the time and needed some 'just mummy' time. She got really defensive saying we just didn't want her to have a life and stormed out.
The next week she actually spent a whole day with him taking him to a local activity centre and baking cupcakes with him which he loves to do. My grandson came to us the next day happy and super chatty telling us all the things he'd done with mummy. We hoped that things were getting a tiny bit better and the next week she spent a whole day with him too.

Now to today my daughter turned up at our house saying my grandson was obviously too much of a problem for us to keep looking after so she'd enrolled him in a local nursery from 8am to 6pm all 5 days a week.
This is not what we wanted at all. While we agree nursery would be a good thing for him 50 hours a week seems like torture for a child who is already worried that he's been left when his parents are out of sight for only a short while. We were and still are always happy to have him while my daughter works. He's going from missing his daddy, to missing his mummy (even when she is physically with him) to having his grandparents taken away too and it's breaking my heart. All we wanted was for her to spend some time with him and instead she's decided to send him away from all of us.

What can I do? Am I being unreasonable asking her to actually participate in her child's life more?

OP posts:
MiloMinderbinder925 · 17/05/2025 00:49

Have you asked her if she's okay? Do you know the reason for the split?

DrummingMousWife · 17/05/2025 00:51

Can you invite her round for a heart to heart and ask her what is happening ? She sounds lost since her relationship broke down and she is struggling to find the joy in parenting. I would go in positive and tell her you know how much little one loves his mummy and how hard things have been, and you are worried for her. Sadly, you don’t have a leg to stand on and she can do what she wants, but of course this is not best for your grandson.

Dangermoo · 17/05/2025 00:54

This really made me sad 😔.

WittyJadeStork · 17/05/2025 00:54

I think you’re going to have to talk to her. Possibly reiterate that you are very happy to have him for the days she works.

SueblueNZ · 17/05/2025 00:58

Gosh, that poor wee boy. Can you convince her that you will continue to have him on the three days she works, up until 5.30pm only?
She is really showing her lack of interest in him by enrolling him in nursery for the two days she doesn't work; that is dreadful (unless she is intending to work full-time). He would surely benefit from a few days with other children but could these not be, say, mornings only so that he gets the stimulation of nursery and she gets two half days to herself.
I think I would also be unavailable for her on Saturdays so that she cannot avoid parenting him then; maybe the four of you could have outings or a meetup without the child (whom I understand, you adore) being foisted onto you.
Good luck, op.

Odras · 17/05/2025 00:58

Oh god . This is such a tricky situation. Is she depressed do you think? I think maybe I’d be looking to limit the damage on the child. Could you sit down and say you absolutely want to look after him. Mention you are worried about her. Say she seems distant but don’t criticise her parenting. You’ll have to try and work with her, if you criticise her she might go.

Eenameenadeeka · 17/05/2025 01:35

Oh this is so sad for your grandson. I don't think you are wrong at all for wanting him to have more attention from his Mum but it does sound like she might be feeling quite depressed. Hopefully you can sit down with her to talk through how she's feeling, it sounds like you love looking after him and you're just worried about him but she's perceived what you said as that you don't like taking care of him. Maybe if you talk again and say you love having him but you're just worried that he's missing her and you'd love to see them spend quality time together as well

saltinesandcoffeecups · 17/05/2025 01:46

Sorry but I’m going to say it out loud… your daughter is acting like a spoiled brat. I really struggled with the term I really wanted to type out but the msg would have probably been moderated if I said what I really mean.

Boo effen hoo that she was called out on for shitty parenting. Now she’s thrown a temper tantrum and is reducing the time her son actually gets attention. I know it’s hard but that decision is on her and ultimately she’s the one doing this to her son.

My advice (and I know how hard this would be for you) is to let this play out. Don’t beg for time with him (I know it’s hard and ultimately he will suffer).

ArtTheClownIsNotAMime · 17/05/2025 02:13

Boo effen hoo that she was called out on for shitty parenting. Now she’s thrown a temper tantrum

This is how I read it too.

Can she afford full time nursery? I'm wondering if this is a bluff.

WhistPie · 17/05/2025 02:39

Are the father's parents local? Perhaps you could suggest that the father sees him more often and his paternal grandparents look after him during his time, giving your daughter time away from her son as she doesn't seem interested in him

Velmy · 17/05/2025 02:42

Your daughter seems very troubled and possibly needs some therapy if this is a result of the breakup. Perhaps she's seeing her child as a reminder of the relationship and finding that difficult?

How was she with her son before the split? Is the child's dad able/willing to have him for longer?

Ultimately she has responsibilities to her child and will need to sort her own issues out in order to fulfill them. You'll need to strike a balance between supporting her while she's down and not enabling her, but you'll know better than anyone else whether she's going to respond better to the carrot or the stick.

Good luck ❤️

AloeVera889 · 17/05/2025 02:50

Wow. Reading that broke my heart. That poor little boy. Thank goodness he has you. I would do anything in my power to convince her to leave him with you.

Bigcat25 · 17/05/2025 03:26

You sound like like wonderful grandparents op, and your post id beautifully written.

rainbow90x · 17/05/2025 03:26

It sounds like her head has been turned with this new man and there is no interest for her to look after her son.
What a sad situation, she sounds like a right entitled cow, she needs a dose of truth, to be told that she's out of order and being a shitty parent.
Are you sure she can afford nursery fees for 5 days a week? Like previous poster said, I'd call her bluff on that and just be like 'ok' and if she tries throwing the 'you don't want to see your grandson' etc then there is a perfect opportunity to tell her how bad of a parent she is being.

TofuEater · 17/05/2025 03:36

Why does the father only see his don once a week?

ElaineBurdock · 17/05/2025 03:52

Tell your daughter you will have him instead of sending him off to a nursery. Treat him as if he's your own little boy and not your grandson. In other words give him cuddles, kisses and a lot of attention. He badly needs a mother and needs to feel wanted and loved. Tell him you love him, often, and tell him he's a such a nice little boy and you're so proud of him
I'm in my 70's, helping my son raise his now 31 month old son, and have been since he was two months old. He has no real mother and so I more than make up for that. They have to feel wanted and loved.
For all you know your daughter might have told him you don't want him there anymore. She seems spiteful enough.
I know you love him, just make sure he knows. Over do it. I do. 🤗

ZebraPrintt · 17/05/2025 03:53

This is so sad poor baby. You sound like amazing grandparents, what a tricky situation to be in. I have no advice I'm sorry, just I hope she sorts herself out and starts to appreciate that little boy of hers. How is the dad, does he know what's going on? And could he be involved more?

ThatCyanJoker · 17/05/2025 03:58

Such a sad post. You are quite right to be concerned about the situation. You very much sound a force for good in that little boy’s life, he absolutely needs you, so work on building bridges with his mum, for that reason alone. If the new BF is coming on the scene more and potentially spending time at your daughter’s home, GS will need you more than ever for reassurance.
Sorry, but your daughter is looking really bad in all this.

DreamTheMoors · 17/05/2025 04:06

I’m truly very sorry.
If I were you, I’d apologise profusely and get that little boy back to your house.
He’ll be with you and that’s the best for him - given the circumstances.
I spent my childhood with my grandparents and I wouldn’t trade it for anything.
Your daughter will come around - some arsehole just dumped her and that’s devastating. Give her awhile to regroup.
Being raised by two generations of parents is a pretty amazing experience when you think about it. Your grandson is very fortunate.
Sending love from California. ❤️

TooGoodToGoto · 17/05/2025 04:46

You have every reason (sadly) to be concerned, you’re a great grandparent.

I don’t know how she’s going to afford nursery, that’s a big amount of money.

I would try to negotiate two/three days with you, but that still means the little lad is not being parented by her.

Keep close, he’s going to need you.

Not sure what else I can say.

Artrunner · 17/05/2025 04:59

This has made me awfully awfully sad. Parenting is such hard work and exhausting and my little boy (4) drives me crackers at time but I cannot understand the abandonment at all.

If this was my daughter I would be tempted to give it to her straight but I do not think it will achieve anything.

I know its hard for you beinga GP and having to very unfairly do a lot of graft, but if you can grovel to get him back so at least he has some love from you. At the same time you need to try and help your daughter. Can the dad me more involved? Can your daughter have therapy/ counselling? Does she have undiagnosed PND? You catch more with sugar than a stick but if none of these things help/ apply i am not sure what your options are. 27 is not too young to not be handling the responsibilities of motherhood well.

Guavafish1 · 17/05/2025 05:08

Being a single parent is hard end having to juggle everything is difficult.

encourage her to spend one day with him and see if she will reverse the nursery

Blueandblack2 · 17/05/2025 05:09

is she depressed so you think? or just besotted with the new BF? She is acting like a spoiled brat. I agree with a PP!

How does she even afford full time nursery as a lone parent with a part time job? Something doesn't add up!

Artrunner · 17/05/2025 05:10

Guavafish1 · 17/05/2025 05:08

Being a single parent is hard end having to juggle everything is difficult.

encourage her to spend one day with him and see if she will reverse the nursery

The mother doesn't sound like she is doing any of it though does she?

Renabrook · 17/05/2025 05:12

I would be telling her to take some responsibility for the child she decided to have, she is acting like a child having a tantrum and she needs to act her age and parent

The poor child

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