Nigel Farage

[Maddie05]

Why do people vote for Reform and in particular Nigel Farage?

He wants to be even richer. He wants to end govt funding for the NHS but refuses to say how Reform will fund it. He's for small government, and anyone on benefits who votes for Reform is like the proverbial turkey at yuletide.

You stop wasting so much money, that's how. Stop paying for gardening lessons and cake decorating for migrants and as for some London councils paying for immigrants DC being taught languages such as Somali the mind boggles. I've read about adverts for staff to teach these illegal immigrants balloon animal making g lessons. Stuff like this is happening up and down the country. Wtf can't their parents teach them if they want their DC to speak Somali? Why should council tax payers pay for it? No one needs to learn to make balloon animals or to decorate cakes. Stop paying for leaflets to be translated into so many languages. Stop giving legal aid to illegal immigrants. Stop housing them in 4* hotels. Put them in tents like they do across Europe. The pull factors are so strong to come to UK. This government wastes so much money. Then puts taxes high to pay for their reckless spending.

Snake oil charlatan? Really? To what purpose?
He doesn’t strike me as such.
Do you call everybody whose policy you don’t agree with a ‘snake oil charlatan’?

That was pre 2016 and the immigrants he objected to were to the UK from the EU. Last time I looked the majority of them were white. Like I said, his is the only white face there. If you genuinely can’t see the racism in that there’s no hope for you. Obviously you can see it but have painted yourself into a corner.

Sounds like Starmer not Farage !

This and stop encouraging people to come. As Andrew Neil said, you have to de -insensitive people to want to come to the UK. Poor France is probably sick to death of the UK because people are crossing all over Europe to get here.
If you come here illegally, the chances are you’ll stay. If your asylum is rejected, they’ll appeal. And probably win.

I don’t blame migrants wanting to come here because the country roles the red carpet out for them. The government meanwhile tries to tax everyone every way they can to pay for it.
My dad is in his 60s and retired at 58. He got a letter asking him if he’d like to return to work.

He laughed and threw the letter in the bin. They want him to go to work so he can support people who’ve came here illegally was his response. Thats a big no !

@NeverEndingSnorey 🤣🤣🤣

Who was the letter from?

And stop foreign aid -

Which countries receive overseas aid?
In 2023, Ukraine was the top recipient of UK overseas aid. It received £250m - a decrease of £92m (26.9 per cent) - compared to 2022.

Ethiopia came second at £164m in 2023, a huge 82.4 per cent increase (£74m) compared to the year before. Afghanistan was third place, receiving £115m.
Syria, Yemen, Nigeria, Somalia, Pakistan, Brazil, and Bangladesh were all in the top ten recipients, receiving a combined total of £597m.

I don't agree to giving away so much money when the UK borrows money to do the gifting. It's madness. I hope Reform will stop this nonsense.

I hope they never get the chance.

He's a politician. He's on his own side. And the options aren't either Farage supporters or 'illegal migrants or woke leftists'. It's not like there's only 2 perspectives in the whole country. Christonabike.

But you're right, he is rich, FROM THE MONEY HE'S MADE AS A POLITICIAN. How do you think he's made his money? His city company 'Farage Limited' went bankrupt. So the purpose of his political activity is to keep coining it in.

I'm not discrediting him by any means. He's discredited by the facts. As I've said elsewhere, if you want to believe in some fantastic myth and pretend it's not not insanity, go right ahead, see where it gets you.

Im not worried about Farage's Reform party succeeding at thr next election.

If it happens, it happens.🤷‍♀️

But it probably won't happen. For a start, Reform are a mess. Every day brings another story about their failure. To balance the books. To select their candidates properly. To improve the UK.

Nigel Farage himself wasn't willing to back them himself until a few weeks before the GE.

Also the next GE will happen after the Presidential election in the US. By which point RW politics will be poison to Liberal democracies and everyone else.

I was going to say something along these lines (apart from the bored housewives bit!)
That much of MN is seriously behind the curve on this topic, there are still many posters on here who call anyone voting for reform a thick racist and it’s a seriously outdated opinion. It’s not representative at all.
Some Reform policies are actually pretty sensible in my opinion. Scrapping HS2, scrapping DEI and banning teaching gender ideology in schools, for example. But I doubt anyone who calls Reform voters ‘thick racists’ would bother to read their policies because they don’t have much in the way of critical thinking skills.

@themoonandtenbob- there are many things we could criticise Starmer for but I can’t think of an occasion where he has lost his temper or been thin skinned.

When he called all the Southport protesters "far right thugs" ( BTW he called them all "criminals" before they'd even been arrested and taken to court.)

@themoonandtenbob- is that losing his temper?

Did you see his face? He was as mad as a wet hen !

Apart from their (anti) immigration stance I have no idea what they will or won’t do if they get voted in.
I don’t think they believe they will get in, maybe they’re aiming for at best a Tory coalition

@themoonandtenbob- I get it. You hate Starmer. I hate Farage.

That number would be much higher if a general election was held tomorrow.

Perhaps he was generalising because he knew about two in five of those arrested having previously been reported domestic abusers…

Perhaps he was just being an ill-informed numpty as usual ?

So you're happy paying £5 million a day to keep these migrants in idle luxury?

Well, some of us aren't 😡

They are not living in 'idle luxury'.