Nigel Farage

[Maddie05]

Why do people vote for Reform and in particular Nigel Farage?

Full bed & board paid for by the UK taxpayer, laundry done, and £9.95 spend when our pensioners and veterans are scrabbling to make ends meet.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Y3m94KSjWkU

Even suspending all critical thinking for a moment and assuming Farage has a full portfolio of developed policies beyond ‘send them back’ why anyone would want to align themselves with the sort of far right ill informed racist bigot his party attracts is beyond me.

Farage has always been a racist. I read an article this weekend that alleged he’s trying to turn the small boats issue into another Brexit. Divide the country and turn us against each other while he emerges the other side richer and unscathed.

Remember Brexit. He did that . How often does he point to the ‘successes’ of Brexit these days…?

Why are the brilliant outcomes from Brexit not his No1 claim in all his campaigning…?

Isn’t it so odd that the thing that consumed him for decades - which he achieved - barely gets a mention these days?

It amazes me people are still stupid enough to fall for his shit.

He has participated in about 33% of parliamentary votes whereas the average MP participates in 72%. He doesn’t give a fuck about representing his constituents. But people vote for him. Like a true con man - even Farage must believe those voters are stupid.

This house contains two pensioners, one of whom is also a veteran. We’re very comfortable, thank you. No scrabbling around here - largely due to the veteran’s generous pension.

Why anyone would want to align themselves with the sort of far left ill informed great unwashed bigots from Antifa is beyond me.🤔

Hardly luxury is it. And I don't think the bed and board is silk sheets and a Michelin chef, more like 4 to a room sharing a small ensuite. You need to widen your pool of information. Less than a tenner a day for toiletries, pay for a mobile, buy a packet of fags, a bus ticket. Blooooody looxury, eh?

It’s a tenner a week, not per day.

No aligning with antifa here - they're bullying thugs just like knuckle dragging nylon flag raising ilk. The two ends of a horseshoe. I take it you're not a racist thug of the far right?

Oops, yes, sorry - less than £8 per day for those not receiving bed and board and less than a tenner a week for those in supported accommodation. I'm so jealous of the absolute luxury they live in. I think I'll go and start a riot. 😁

Not bad for criminals that have broken into this country?

And if they are so hard up why are they smoking?

Toileteries are free.

https://helios.iframe.thesun.co.uk/news/35926942/asylum-seekers-onlyfans-sex-film-hotel/

Not bad for criminals who shouldn't be here and haven't paid a penny into the system.

Pensioners get £230 pw for everything.
That's housing, furnishings, poll tax, food, clothes, toileteries, heating, TV and utilities.

He acts like he's one of the people , he says what people want to hear but he rarely tells the truth and creates división and shifts the focus onto things that don't really affect every day folk he has no workable policies but seals in simple sentences that appeal to the hard of thinking

Pensioners on £230 per week and nothing else are eligible for a whole host of other benefits relating to housing, TV etc. To suggest they are surviving on £230 per week is disingenuous at the least.

If I was forbidden to work, stuck in shared, cramped accommodation for weeks and months waiting for an asylum application to be processed, I think I'd need that packet of fags. Do you honestly begrudge less than a tenner a week?

Some pensioners. Most of us these days have occupational pensions. Please stop using pensioners to support your anti immigrant unpleasantness.

Are you also incensed about Brits on far higher benefits that tax payers are subsidising, making only fans sex videos, raping and abusing women and children, behaving anti socially, dealing drugs, committing myriad other crimes on a far, far larger scale than anything migrants are accused of? Where are you protesting about this?

@blossomtoes "Most of us these days have occupational pensions"

Do we? The figure is actually 47%.

And the Triple Lock isn't safe

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cq6m03ld7nvo

note this sentence -

Chancellor Rachel Reeves previously said the Labour government would keep the triple lock until the end of the current Parliament.
But since that commitment, there has been intense debate over the cost of the triple lock and whether it is justified.

Yes he’s a grifter. Unfortunately these divide and conquer tactics are tried and tested. People are encouraged to punch down and meanwhile are distracted from seeing what those in power are up to with their asset stripping.

I am protesting regularly to my MP about all these issues.

And what happened to Hugh Edwards? Zilch. Ditto Cyril Smith

You reinforce my point that we have enough home-grown reprobates without deliberately importing any more.

It's funny how most of the arguments on MN are about the entitled boomer pensioners who are spending their winter fuel allowance on cruises, and how the triple lock should be done away with, but as soon as migration is mentioned, all of a sudden pensioners are practically on the breadline about to have the triple lock snatched from them.

Pensioners solely reliant on the state pension are also entitled to pension credit, housing benefit, reductions in CT, TV licence, free bus passes, other travel concessions, many allowances in respect of care and disability.

The triple lock is a travesty. It was only ever intended to be temporary. It should go. And, once again, please stop weaponising pensioners to support your prejudice. It’s not appreciated.

Spot on.

I suggest the lives on Tiktok. they take calls from reform supporters and speak about their beliefs and debunk myths. it's unrivaled in its insight.

I don't care whether it's appreciated or not.

I'm quoting facts.

According to the Centre for Ageing Better, around two million UK pensioners are living in poverty. Of these 2.1 million pensioners, 55% are in deep poverty and 29% in very deep poverty.
That is 16 % of all older people in poverty or one in six of everyone in later life.

I bet they'd love to be in a 4 star hotel with all their needs met.

https://fabians.org.uk/new-research-finds-nearly-2-million-pensioners-in-poverty/

You do know he wants privatisation of the NHS, like the US system? How do you think that will affect the average working person? If you are happy to risk medical bankruptcy or huge insurance premiums ...go for the vote 🤬