My 84yr old Mum asked if she should be addressed as a Woman

[Horrace]

Yesterday my 84yr old Mum had to be interviewed by the police after witnessing a sudden death of a close friend. The death was traumatic in itself and happened abroad.
The first question the officer asked my mum was " would you like to be addressed as a woman?"
My mother was furious at this but also so upset and tired that she burst into tears.
I am so cross. I don't understand why they would ask her this. Would they ask a man similar.

For instance some people prefer to say black, African American, African English, or more specially where they’re from eg. Jamaican.

They might have said is it ok to write “white British woman” in a police report and she could say no please write white Polish woman as that’s where I am from and how I identify.

You can’t just call people something that they don’t identify with or aren’t comfortable with based on their appearance. Name, race, age, gender, sexuality etc.

The fact that midwives have to ask this question just exemplifies the utter lunacy of this stuff.

If your patients weren't female they wouldn't be your patients.

Claiming to identify as something other than female when you have chosen to have a baby is the kind of attention seeking nonsense that shouldn't be encouraged.

You prove my point

It’s not nonsense to make sure a male presenting person isn’t a pregnant female though. Your dad might be “obviously” a 76 year old non-pregnant male and doesn’t need asking but what if the next patient is also so obviously male to the provider that they don’t feel they need to ask but it turns out to be a pregnant female who has an androgynous look who they didn’t think to ask and have now caused damage to their baby. It is always better to ask every person a silly question than to not ask anyone a very important one especially when it’s down to first impressions and assumptions only which are subjective and risk human error.

Your point is that it is somehow distressing for a woman to be asked if she is happy to be called a woman? Surely that’s a simple yes or no.

If you are a woman then I fail to see why being asked if you are a woman is upsetting. Surely this is what you terfs all want the toilet police to be asking anyway.

The OP’s mum was distressed by the question
Are you so far through the looking glass that you cannot see what you’re saying or advocating for IS distressing

And there is it
the slur of Terf

And the mask comes off…

Only women can get pregnant
that is a unalloyed fact
if they are androgynous or not

This. It's shocking and very upsetting what is going on. It's actually tough just to read about

I was seen in A&E by the Crisis Team (mental health emergency team) recently. The first question they asked was what my pronouns were, whether I identified as male or female & whether this “preference” matched the gender I was assigned at birth.

If the NHS doesn't deal with biological fact then we are totally and utterly screwed

People love to get riled up about things like this but the fact is in this day and age people aren’t always what they seem and it’s just polite to check.

Asking a 76 year-old man (see a previous post) if he is pregnant is not 'polite', it's absolutely fucking idiotic. And asking an obviously female 84 year-old if she is a woman is also idiotic.

Far more people are going to be pissed off by being virtue-signallingly asked what sex they are than if people just used their eyes and common sense to tell them the sex of the person they're addressing. But this kind of policy isn't about trying to offend as few people as possible, is it? It's about virtue signalling to a small (but extremely vocal) minority.

make a complaint - go into the police station if possible. That actually sounds ridiculous

in an NHS setting i an see the logic but this was not. irrelevant.

Can we ban the misuse and the use of the word 'identify' in the examples given it actually makes no sense.

This fantasy that no one can tell the difference between a man and an androgynous woman, or that transwomen have been using female spaces forever and no one ever knew 🙄

How does it make no sense? To identify as something simply means how you consider yourself to be. A man who has kids but doesn’t see them may or may not identify as a father. Someone from mixed heritage may identify as one ethnicity more than the other. I may identify as a woman because I was born female but others born female may not see themselves that way.

Well those people are the snowflakes then, aren’t they.

I haven't been asked this at any medical appointments (yet). Good to know it could be on the cards, thanks.

I think my immediate response would be:

"I don't identify as ANYTHING. I am a biological female however, if that's what you're asking."

Hopefully that would pass muster for the NHS taskmasters but, these days, who knows? They might cancel my procedures or appointments for engaging in #WrongThink.

(Not getting at you, @wlv12)

you can tell if someone is pregnant just by looking at them?! Amazing skill

Oh dear God 😆

I can tell if a man is pregnant or not.
Hint - it’s always not.

Why is it distressing though?