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To lie to the school for DD?

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Ankther · 11/05/2025 17:05

DD is in Year 12. Her school runs a ‘Year 12 leadership day’ every year on the last day before May half-term with two half-day activities - usually army-style fitness and debating.

Dd certainly hasn’t been looking forward to this - not so much the debating part (she’s good at English/history and can put together strong arguments) but the army fitness element really isn’t her thing. She’s rubbish at PE but probably more to the point, she struggles socially, and just can’t get on board with ‘enforced fun’ type activities that require everyone to make a fool of themselves in front of others.

She previously had to do an army fitness afternoon in Year 9 - she had been begging me to let her skip it for weeks but I took the line that it’s important to do things that don’t come naturally to you and made her go in. Additionally, honesty is incredibly important to me and I’ve never been willing to lie to the school and tell them she’s ill when she isn’t. However, as soon as she got home she proudly told me that she’d done one activity and then told the teachers she felt dizzy and sat out the rest of the afternoon.

She hadn’t asked to skip the day this time around - I imagine she was planning to sit most of the fitness activities out again like she did in Year 9. However, she found out on Friday that the morning activity isn’t debating but instead a stand-up comedy workshop, which is her absolute worst nightmare. The prospect of having to stand up in front of her peers and try to tell jokes while no one laughs is totally terrifying and humiliating for her.

The usual lines about school preparing for you for adult life where you sometimes have to do things you don’t want aren’t going to work here - as she’s pointed out repeatedly, I’ve never had to do a stand-up comedy workshop or an army fitness day at work… When I tried to discuss it with her calmly this afternoon it ended up with her hyperventilating and having a full-blown panic attack. It took nearly an hour to get her breathing normally again.

She’s now said she simply isn’t going into school on that day, and it’s up to me whether I lie and tell them she’s ill, or if I tell the truth. She’s 17 and I can’t physically force her onto the school bus against her will, so I guess that’s the decision I have to make.

On the one hand, if I tell the school the truth, I worry that it will reflect badly on her - the school have been clear that they expect 100% attendance - and it could maybe even impact the reference they give her for her UCAS application next year (may well be paranoia on my part).

On the other hand, even if I say she’s ill, I’m fairly sure her teachers will see right through it - they know her and they’re fully aware this day is her worst nightmare. Plus she’s never missed school due to illness before so it would be pretty convenient for her to suddenly be ill now. And as I mentioned above, honesty is a key value of mine - I will find it very difficult to lie to the school, and I’m concerned that it’s Dd’s default response to get out of something she doesn’t want to do.

Would you lie to the school in this scenario?
(YABU = tell the school the truth / YANBU = lie and tell the school she’s ill)

OP posts:
Octavia64 · 11/05/2025 17:06

Tell school she is ill and that the illness is she had a panic attack.

xmasdealhunter · 11/05/2025 17:08

I'd say she's ill. It won't impact her UCAS statement at all and the teachers have no proof that she isn't ill when you say she is (and are probably so busy trying to organise this anyway that I doubt they'll have a long think about it).

JustMarriedBecca · 11/05/2025 17:10

School aren't going to give a bad UCAS reference. They want the kids to go to the best possible Uni for their own purposes.

Also all that Unis are bothered about is grades. No one actually reads the statements.

JLou08 · 11/05/2025 17:12

I think your DD should be honest, she should advocate for herself and let the school know that enforcing people to do stand up comedy is a ridiculous idea. It will cause very high levels of anxiety and will be of no benefit at all. Your DD won't be the only person feeling like this.
I would usually be all for people pushing through their comfort zones and preparing for the world of work but this is a step too far.

Annascaul · 11/05/2025 17:13

It won’t impact her UCAS reference.
It sounds godawful, to be honest. Don’t blame her at at all.

2gorgeousboys · 11/05/2025 17:14

I think you need to be honest with school. These forced activities should not be mandatory and I'd like to think that understanding the impact it had on students may make them reconsider their approach. Even if not in time for this year.

DS's school did similar during their activities week but there was a wide range for students to choose from including academic, physical and just plain fun activities.

madaboutpurple · 11/05/2025 17:15

Would it help if you got a joke book and your DD had time to practice before hand.? With any luck the event might help with confidence .It does sound as though her school want everyone there .If all her class are taking part then it is not going to be a long time that each student will be talking for.I wish DD all the best with the session.

NuffSaidSam · 11/05/2025 17:16

I totally agree with her. It sounds like a ridiculous day at school!

I wouldn't lie though. I'd tell the truth and encourage her to do the same. If she's good at debating perhaps she could explain why it's such a bad idea to the headteacher/attendance officer and make some positive change for the younger years.

Evaka · 11/05/2025 17:16

What a stupid activity to force upon a bunch of kids. Lie for her, all the way.

BatFeminist · 11/05/2025 17:16

Just says she is ill. They might have suspicions but what are they going to do

Moshki · 11/05/2025 17:16

In sixth form we don't get involved. If she wants the day off she can take the attendance hit on the chin. Empathise, but leave the decision to her.

This is our strategy with our DD who is inclined to jump through every hoop going. It's good to learn the world doesn't end of you test the odd boundary and that she can handle it herself.

sunshineandshowers40 · 11/05/2025 17:17

I would just say she is ill. Sounds hideous.

ilovelamp82 · 11/05/2025 17:18

Why don't you let her contact school herself to let them know she won't be in. I don't think she should be forced to do the event, but you shouldn't be forced to lie.

SparkyBlue · 11/05/2025 17:19

It sounds absolutely awful. I'd definitely let her skip it and not give it a second thought

WWomble · 11/05/2025 17:19

I would ‘bend’ the truth. Tell school that the prospect of the day has given her such anxiety that she’s terrified and refusing to attend school.

user2848502016 · 11/05/2025 17:20

Tell the school the truth - she is ill, she had a panic attack because of their ridiculous activity. Tell them she was willing to push herself to do the debating and fitness but the stand up comedy is simply too much for her and she won’t be doing it

eyeswide21 · 11/05/2025 17:20

I would have absolutely said no to this, and my mum would have supported me. When I was year 12 I started a Saturday job I HATED ...made me incredibly anxious - wasn't about the work as I'd been working in a little gift shop since 14 by then! And my mum called in on my third day and said I wasn't coming back. I felt supported and like I could lean on her fr anything.
This kind of approach has had zero impact on my working life and approach to work. I'm now mid-30s in a professional career with further qualifications and a high earner. All I remember looking back is that my mum supported me

MissJeanBrodiesmother · 11/05/2025 17:20

Just tell them she will not come in and why.

IamtheDevilsAvocado · 11/05/2025 17:22

She is ill... She's having an stress reaction.

Panic attacks are common but they're not a 'normal ' response.

This is obviously something she loathes.

I would strongly advise your daughter to have some sessions of some good CBT re public speaking post A levels ... It's a real life skill.

If it's that rather than just being funny that's causing her the issue.

Bigbus · 11/05/2025 17:22

I’d call her in sick. At the end of the day your responsibility is to her and not the school. Also I don’t think it’s a bad lesson to learn - life is too short to do horrible things that literally benefit no one. If it was something like a group presentation and her absence would affect other people’s grade then I’d definitely try to get her to go but this can only have a negative impact on her self-esteem.

chumsey · 11/05/2025 17:23

Just let her have the day off. She may not be throwing up ill, but the thought of it is giving her enough anxiety that she is not ‘well’, so it's not even a massive untruth. It really isn’t that deep.

diddlydooda · 11/05/2025 17:23

I suspect half the kids will be off sick to be honest, what a nightmare! Agree with PP - she had a panic attack and is not able to attend. They can make of that what they will.

Whoarethoseguys · 11/05/2025 17:25

This sort of activity should be voluntary. I would have hated it as well and it would be almost like torture the idea of making people do that makes me cringe
At 17 she is old enough to make her own mind up about whether to go.

OneDayIWillExplode · 11/05/2025 17:26

Why would you want your daughter to do something she is so unwilling to do? She's 17, she's allowed to have boundaries and to say this isn't something she wants to do. I would back her up every step of the way. Teaching someone transferable skills through doing something like stand up comedy isn't going to make her go "oh wow, oh now I can do this" is it ? It's going to force her to have even firmer boundaries in the future. It's someone being too fucking trendy and thinking "oh, they'll love it". In fact, I suggest it would have far more impact of it were aimed at every single teacher and the pupils could watch them do it and opt in if they wanted.

amylou8 · 11/05/2025 17:28

I'm normally one for resilience, but this activity sounds ridiculous and is clearly stressing her out. Good for her for putting her foot down. I'd absolutely tell them she's sick.