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To lie to the school for DD?

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Ankther · 11/05/2025 17:05

DD is in Year 12. Her school runs a ‘Year 12 leadership day’ every year on the last day before May half-term with two half-day activities - usually army-style fitness and debating.

Dd certainly hasn’t been looking forward to this - not so much the debating part (she’s good at English/history and can put together strong arguments) but the army fitness element really isn’t her thing. She’s rubbish at PE but probably more to the point, she struggles socially, and just can’t get on board with ‘enforced fun’ type activities that require everyone to make a fool of themselves in front of others.

She previously had to do an army fitness afternoon in Year 9 - she had been begging me to let her skip it for weeks but I took the line that it’s important to do things that don’t come naturally to you and made her go in. Additionally, honesty is incredibly important to me and I’ve never been willing to lie to the school and tell them she’s ill when she isn’t. However, as soon as she got home she proudly told me that she’d done one activity and then told the teachers she felt dizzy and sat out the rest of the afternoon.

She hadn’t asked to skip the day this time around - I imagine she was planning to sit most of the fitness activities out again like she did in Year 9. However, she found out on Friday that the morning activity isn’t debating but instead a stand-up comedy workshop, which is her absolute worst nightmare. The prospect of having to stand up in front of her peers and try to tell jokes while no one laughs is totally terrifying and humiliating for her.

The usual lines about school preparing for you for adult life where you sometimes have to do things you don’t want aren’t going to work here - as she’s pointed out repeatedly, I’ve never had to do a stand-up comedy workshop or an army fitness day at work… When I tried to discuss it with her calmly this afternoon it ended up with her hyperventilating and having a full-blown panic attack. It took nearly an hour to get her breathing normally again.

She’s now said she simply isn’t going into school on that day, and it’s up to me whether I lie and tell them she’s ill, or if I tell the truth. She’s 17 and I can’t physically force her onto the school bus against her will, so I guess that’s the decision I have to make.

On the one hand, if I tell the school the truth, I worry that it will reflect badly on her - the school have been clear that they expect 100% attendance - and it could maybe even impact the reference they give her for her UCAS application next year (may well be paranoia on my part).

On the other hand, even if I say she’s ill, I’m fairly sure her teachers will see right through it - they know her and they’re fully aware this day is her worst nightmare. Plus she’s never missed school due to illness before so it would be pretty convenient for her to suddenly be ill now. And as I mentioned above, honesty is a key value of mine - I will find it very difficult to lie to the school, and I’m concerned that it’s Dd’s default response to get out of something she doesn’t want to do.

Would you lie to the school in this scenario?
(YABU = tell the school the truth / YANBU = lie and tell the school she’s ill)

OP posts:
Seainasive · 11/05/2025 17:28

I’ve been very clear with my DS that I will not lie for him. (or anyone else) so on the very rare occasions that he doesn’t want to join one of those ‘fun’ events, I email school to say that he chose not to go in. His attendance is great so school have never been difficult about it.

RareGoalsVerge · 11/05/2025 17:29

You can tell the truth in a way that doesn't reflect badly

"The planned activities for today have triggered a mental health crisis and she is not well enough to come in. I am not willing to risk her wellbeing by forcing her into school in the midst of panic and anxiety attacks and it would be detrimental to both her and to fellow pupils if she were to be forced to participate. Please register her as unwell."

Morechocmorechoc · 11/05/2025 17:30

Stand up comedy is unreasonable. Pushes way too many outside comfort zone. I wouldn't go either

Needlenardlenoo · 11/05/2025 17:32

How about she finds a university open day on this day? She can say virtuously that she didn't want to miss lessons!

Jojimoji · 11/05/2025 17:35

I'm a teacher and I'd hate to see an anxious pupil forced into doing something like this.

I'd have a word with her form tutor.
If a chat with them doesn't put your mind at rest, then just go with your gut. If she's really going to suffer don't send her in.

Catsandcannedbeans · 11/05/2025 17:35

Urg sounds like hell. Call in sick for her. If you want make her do something educational/worth while on the day off (uni related perhaps), or just have a fun duvet day.

Cherrycola4 · 11/05/2025 17:35

Support her fully and give her the day off. I would probably tell the truth to the school if it were my daughter, with her blessing of course. Take her on a lovely day out instead.

feelingbleh · 11/05/2025 17:37

I wouldnt make her do something i wasn't willing to do and there is absolutely no way i would do stand up comedy.

AlmostSummer25 · 11/05/2025 17:37

user2848502016 · 11/05/2025 17:20

Tell the school the truth - she is ill, she had a panic attack because of their ridiculous activity. Tell them she was willing to push herself to do the debating and fitness but the stand up comedy is simply too much for her and she won’t be doing it

This

Absolutely 💯

godmum56 · 11/05/2025 17:38

In these MEGA STUPID circumstances, If your daughter feels she can handle the refusing to go, I'd support her to do that. If she doesn't feel that she can then I'd talk through with her what help she needs and how she'd like you to handle it. and yes if she wanted me to say she's unwell, I'd do that too. Fucking moronic school.

Rainbowcat99 · 11/05/2025 17:39

JustMarriedBecca · 11/05/2025 17:10

School aren't going to give a bad UCAS reference. They want the kids to go to the best possible Uni for their own purposes.

Also all that Unis are bothered about is grades. No one actually reads the statements.

This, it really isn’t in their best interest to do this, they’re just putting the thumbscrews on to try to make kids attend.

if she possibly can I’d encourage her to have a proper conversation with them explaining that she does not feel able to do those things but will happily make herself useful in the background, being a steward, timekeeper or doing refreshments perhaps.

ultimately though, don’t lie, tell the truth, she won’t be going because the idea of it gave her an hour long panic attack.

she’s 17 this really isn’t something the school can force her to do.

BotterMon · 11/05/2025 17:39

Lying is, imo, unacceptable and piss poor preparation for adulthood. You are just teaching her it's ok to lie when she doesn't want to do something. Tell the truth or get her to tell them she won't be attending and the reasons why.

BeyondMyWits · 11/05/2025 17:40

DD had a similar event at a younger age... Year 3 or 4 ... do a skit or sing a song, do an obstacle course.

She said to me and her dad 2 or 3 days before "of course I told Miss A that I willunt be in that day"

I agreed she didn't have to go and called her absence in. Simply said she was unable to attend. Unauthorised absence, but hey ho, why put them through that sort of stress. I'll always have their back. Always.

Cognacsoft · 11/05/2025 17:40

I would tell the school that your dd isn’t comfortable about doing the activity and as it’s not part of the curriculum she won’t be doing it.

heatherwithapee · 11/05/2025 17:40

I’d be honest with the school. At a push you can say she’s unwell with anxiety due to worrying about the activities, which is not a lie.

mumonthehill · 11/05/2025 17:40

Year 12 and 13 do not worry about them not going in for this sort of thing. Email she is ill and forget about it.

pengwing · 11/05/2025 17:41

God normally I’d always just send the kids in and tell them to get through it. But I think a stand up comedy session is possibly the worst school idea I’ve heard of.

id keep her off and tell them she had a panic attack at the thought of it.

RampantIvy · 11/05/2025 17:41

I'm all for people doing stuff outside their comfort zone, but an activity designed to deliberately humiliate people is not on.

I'd be inclined to contact school and say "DD isn't coming in today because she is having a panic attack"

Or give her a joke book and get her to read some jokes from it.

Cognacsoft · 11/05/2025 17:41

BotterMon · 11/05/2025 17:39

Lying is, imo, unacceptable and piss poor preparation for adulthood. You are just teaching her it's ok to lie when she doesn't want to do something. Tell the truth or get her to tell them she won't be attending and the reasons why.

Lying is very useful if your faced with idiots who try to enforce fun on shy pupils.

sparepantsandtoothbrush · 11/05/2025 17:42

Just call her in sick. School won't care!

vipersnest1 · 11/05/2025 17:43

My job involves standing up and speaking in front of people all day long but I’d hate doing this and the fact that I was being forced to do it. I’d say she was ill OP.

aredcar · 11/05/2025 17:43

I’d be honest with the school and tell them my child is absolutely not coming in to do forced stand up comedy, that’s ridiculous. At any age. It would be the stuff of nightmares for my teenage son and I wouldn’t be making him go in for it. I wouldn’t mind him going in and watching those that do want to do it but forcing people to participate in it is ridiculous. I would refuse to do it myself- I hate being on stage and I’m shite at jokes

MJMabel · 11/05/2025 17:44

How awful, day off I’m afraid, it’s got to be. She needs to be safe in the knowledge that she does not have to do this. What is wrong with school coming up with this nonsense! That type of thing should definitely be an ‘opt in’ activity.

MatildaTheCat · 11/05/2025 17:45

I suspect there will be a sudden outbreak of illness on the day.

However I would email the school and tell them that this is an unacceptable pressure to force on students and give them the opportunity to amend the day.

Away2000 · 11/05/2025 17:46

I’d consider her having anxiety to that level about it would make saying she’s ill the truth. That day sounds awful and I’d call in sick if my work tried to force everyone to do stand up comedy. One day is not going to affect her UCAS application.

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