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AIBU?

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To lie to the school for DD?

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Ankther · 11/05/2025 17:05

DD is in Year 12. Her school runs a ‘Year 12 leadership day’ every year on the last day before May half-term with two half-day activities - usually army-style fitness and debating.

Dd certainly hasn’t been looking forward to this - not so much the debating part (she’s good at English/history and can put together strong arguments) but the army fitness element really isn’t her thing. She’s rubbish at PE but probably more to the point, she struggles socially, and just can’t get on board with ‘enforced fun’ type activities that require everyone to make a fool of themselves in front of others.

She previously had to do an army fitness afternoon in Year 9 - she had been begging me to let her skip it for weeks but I took the line that it’s important to do things that don’t come naturally to you and made her go in. Additionally, honesty is incredibly important to me and I’ve never been willing to lie to the school and tell them she’s ill when she isn’t. However, as soon as she got home she proudly told me that she’d done one activity and then told the teachers she felt dizzy and sat out the rest of the afternoon.

She hadn’t asked to skip the day this time around - I imagine she was planning to sit most of the fitness activities out again like she did in Year 9. However, she found out on Friday that the morning activity isn’t debating but instead a stand-up comedy workshop, which is her absolute worst nightmare. The prospect of having to stand up in front of her peers and try to tell jokes while no one laughs is totally terrifying and humiliating for her.

The usual lines about school preparing for you for adult life where you sometimes have to do things you don’t want aren’t going to work here - as she’s pointed out repeatedly, I’ve never had to do a stand-up comedy workshop or an army fitness day at work… When I tried to discuss it with her calmly this afternoon it ended up with her hyperventilating and having a full-blown panic attack. It took nearly an hour to get her breathing normally again.

She’s now said she simply isn’t going into school on that day, and it’s up to me whether I lie and tell them she’s ill, or if I tell the truth. She’s 17 and I can’t physically force her onto the school bus against her will, so I guess that’s the decision I have to make.

On the one hand, if I tell the school the truth, I worry that it will reflect badly on her - the school have been clear that they expect 100% attendance - and it could maybe even impact the reference they give her for her UCAS application next year (may well be paranoia on my part).

On the other hand, even if I say she’s ill, I’m fairly sure her teachers will see right through it - they know her and they’re fully aware this day is her worst nightmare. Plus she’s never missed school due to illness before so it would be pretty convenient for her to suddenly be ill now. And as I mentioned above, honesty is a key value of mine - I will find it very difficult to lie to the school, and I’m concerned that it’s Dd’s default response to get out of something she doesn’t want to do.

Would you lie to the school in this scenario?
(YABU = tell the school the truth / YANBU = lie and tell the school she’s ill)

OP posts:
Headabovetheparapets · 11/05/2025 18:31

user2848502016 · 11/05/2025 17:20

Tell the school the truth - she is ill, she had a panic attack because of their ridiculous activity. Tell them she was willing to push herself to do the debating and fitness but the stand up comedy is simply too much for her and she won’t be doing it

This, you don’t need to lie, if she is pushed into this activity it sounds very likely that she will be likely to have a panic attack.
I struggle to grasp how humiliation is character building, I’m not concerned about being the centre of attention but stand up comedy would be a whole new level of hell!!

Franpie · 11/05/2025 18:32

Is she doing well in her A-levels academically? If so then I’d just ignore this nonsense.

My DD is at a similar school but I don’t buy into the whole reporting absences etc at her age.

What exactly will the school do if you don’t play ball? Absolutely nothing! Don’t phone in for her, don’t answer the phone if they call you and don’t give it any more thought.

She’s practically an adult and will be out of the school within a year anyway.

BugBugTheTornado · 11/05/2025 18:33

She is ill, she’s having panic attacks about it. It’s impacting her mental health, just as valid as physical health.

incognito50me · 11/05/2025 18:33

This is terrible. I loved school and was very good at it, but would have absolutely hated this and would probably be like your daughter - panic attacks for a week before, panic attack on the day of. What does this teach her? Tell them she's sick.

Everydayimhuffling · 11/05/2025 18:35

I totally get your thing about honesty, but the truth is that adults DO lie to hide and unpalatable truth. I think it's actually a good lesson in life to know what is worth lying about. I wouldn't do something like that for work. I don't think it is a reasonable thing to expect or a valuable skill to learn like debate. I'd like to get her out of it.

CatHairEveryWhereNow · 11/05/2025 18:36

No, parents have to report sixth formers’ absences, even once they turn 18.

DC school in sixth form is like this as well - it's one of many reasons our go to the college despite extra travel.

I think in this case I wouldn't bother trying to reason with the school - If they are being so heavy handed about attentance just say she's not in or ill - she making herself ill with the stress already. It won't impact UCSA applications in any way.

I can do public speaking but stand up comedy would be a step too far for me. We had some Industry days - they meant nothing - sort of corporate team building in groups - and I hated them but I wasn't worried to point of panic attacks abouit attending just unenthused. School bigged them up as important because they were putting a lot of time and effort organising and clearly sold on idea - but they were meaningless in long run.

tinyspiny · 11/05/2025 18:37

YANBU and don’t even feel guilty about it .

Cyclingmummy1 · 11/05/2025 18:37

I think it sounds great. It's a workshop, not a full blown comedy routine. Debating will be many teens' idea of hell and this sounds much better.

I'd encourage her to go, or advocate for herself. I wouldn't be emailing to say she's ill.

tsmainsqueeze · 11/05/2025 18:39

Bigbus · 11/05/2025 17:22

I’d call her in sick. At the end of the day your responsibility is to her and not the school. Also I don’t think it’s a bad lesson to learn - life is too short to do horrible things that literally benefit no one. If it was something like a group presentation and her absence would affect other people’s grade then I’d definitely try to get her to go but this can only have a negative impact on her self-esteem.

I completely agree , i would absolutely lie in this situation for my kids.
This one day off will have zilch impact on anything other than her mental health which is the priority.
What a ridiculous choice ,as a pp says probably half the school will be off .

SalfordQuays · 11/05/2025 18:40

Has she spoken to friends about it? She can’t surely be the only one who doesn’t want to do this?

bridgetreilly · 11/05/2025 18:41

I would tell the truth. School need to know that these sort of activities force some students to play truant. Alternatively send her in with a note stating that she must be allowed to work in the library all day.

MrsMitford3 · 11/05/2025 18:42

In this sort of scenario I would tell the school your DD has a temperature.

She does-it's just not a fever...

I would not make my DD go through this-don't think character building at all and sounds quite ridiculous.

PowerhouseOfTheCell · 11/05/2025 18:42

We had a similar forced 'push your boundaries, you'll all have to do in it in work' kind of day in our sixth form, and over 40% of us simply didn't go in!
Seriously, just you or her ring on the morning and say she won't be in that day, no need for massive convoluted lies

Cakeandusername · 11/05/2025 18:44

I would leave up to her. She’s 17. I wouldn’t lie but wouldn’t insist she went. To be honest I found sixth form rules ridiculous. My dc didn’t have a teacher all yr13 for 1 subject instead they were babysat by various pe teachers (it was philosophy not pe!) so there was no point her going. She was 18 her decision. Also had several ridiculous calls re attendance eg she isn’t in school. Yes she’s with me travelling to uni open day she told me she filled in paperwork. Oh she did they said but no appreciation you might need to fly or travel hours to a uni open day. I also had to tell them what lnat was and yes she did need morning off to sit it.

aylis · 11/05/2025 18:44

I would be honest about the reason for her absence. It sounds like my worst nightmare both as a child and an adult, and not in a minor embarrassment way. I think the school needs to know children feel that way about it, especially if they have any kind of policy at all about recognising differences in children or individuality.

Franpie · 11/05/2025 18:44

I also wanted to add a little warning…. during my graduate training contract I had to do an army boot camp, cringy team building events and plenty of other forced fun!

Gabby82 · 11/05/2025 18:44

I feel like she some great material for the stand up routine:

  • Hates being put in situations of embarrassment, devised a plan to escape army camp......found she was then doing stand up comedy!
  • Is at an age when confidence is tough and what others think is important..... school decided stand up comedy would be a great exercise!

She should make the whole thing a sarcastic rant about the school's terrible idea.

godmum56 · 11/05/2025 18:44

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 11/05/2025 18:04

Actually she may have to do days like this as part of work. If she doesn’t want to do it then it’s up to her, you shouldn’t get involved but it would be good for her to step outside her comfortable zone and join in and it is likely to help her in the future.

bollocks to that. I have always refused to do them and refused to inflict them on my staff.

Isthismykarma · 11/05/2025 18:45

I don’t get why you need to speak to the college at all. She’s 17, she doesn’t fancy going in, she takes the day off. Why do you need to ring up and say why?

PurpleThistle7 · 11/05/2025 18:45

I would 100% tell the school that she had a panic attack and was too unwell to participate. Mental health is health too so she’s therefore unwell and cannot come to school. No chance I’d make my daughter do this (she is autistic and has anxiety so I had had to do something similar myself - am in Scotland though so think the attendance thing is less serious here)

absolutely no chance my daughter would participate in something so silly if it was genuinely traumatising for her. I endure she attends school every day so she can learn etc but this is just a terrible idea (for her!)

godmum56 · 11/05/2025 18:46

Cyclingmummy1 · 11/05/2025 18:37

I think it sounds great. It's a workshop, not a full blown comedy routine. Debating will be many teens' idea of hell and this sounds much better.

I'd encourage her to go, or advocate for herself. I wouldn't be emailing to say she's ill.

Then you go.

JoyousEagle · 11/05/2025 18:47

That sounds absolutely hideous, and I would absolutely call in sick if I was told I was having a team building day at work that involved me doing stand up comedy!
She had a severe panic attack, so I imagine if she was going to go in, she would have another that morning. So I don’t even think it’s a lie to say she is “not able to attend these activities due to illness”.

Bellie710 · 11/05/2025 18:50

I wouldn't overthink it, tell them she has a migraine and move on

RampantIvy · 11/05/2025 18:51

DonningMyHardHat · 11/05/2025 18:02

She’s 17, not 7. Does she actually need you to call in sick for her? What about students who live independently from their parents from 16? I don’t even remember attendance being ‘a thing’ at sixth form. It certainly wasn’t mentioned or questioned during UCAS applications.

With kindness, I think you are overthinking this, and that probably isn’t helping her anxiety.

Are you in Scotland or elsewhere?

The number of 16 year olds living independently from their parents is pretty small. 16 year olds cannot legally enter a tenancy agreement in England. However, they can be an occupier, but someone else would be the named tenant.

GhostHunterPlay · 11/05/2025 18:51

I wouldn't lie for her. It only teaches her that if she is asked to do something that makes her uncomfortable, all she has to to is tell a lie and she won't have to do it. This isnt the example you want to set for her, is it?
I agree with other posters that these activities are ridiculous, but she needs to learn that feigning illness isn't going to help her, especially when she has to do something in her job that makes her feel uncomfortable. She could end up being disciplined and even losing her job, because she can't be trusted.