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To lie to the school for DD?

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Ankther · 11/05/2025 17:05

DD is in Year 12. Her school runs a ‘Year 12 leadership day’ every year on the last day before May half-term with two half-day activities - usually army-style fitness and debating.

Dd certainly hasn’t been looking forward to this - not so much the debating part (she’s good at English/history and can put together strong arguments) but the army fitness element really isn’t her thing. She’s rubbish at PE but probably more to the point, she struggles socially, and just can’t get on board with ‘enforced fun’ type activities that require everyone to make a fool of themselves in front of others.

She previously had to do an army fitness afternoon in Year 9 - she had been begging me to let her skip it for weeks but I took the line that it’s important to do things that don’t come naturally to you and made her go in. Additionally, honesty is incredibly important to me and I’ve never been willing to lie to the school and tell them she’s ill when she isn’t. However, as soon as she got home she proudly told me that she’d done one activity and then told the teachers she felt dizzy and sat out the rest of the afternoon.

She hadn’t asked to skip the day this time around - I imagine she was planning to sit most of the fitness activities out again like she did in Year 9. However, she found out on Friday that the morning activity isn’t debating but instead a stand-up comedy workshop, which is her absolute worst nightmare. The prospect of having to stand up in front of her peers and try to tell jokes while no one laughs is totally terrifying and humiliating for her.

The usual lines about school preparing for you for adult life where you sometimes have to do things you don’t want aren’t going to work here - as she’s pointed out repeatedly, I’ve never had to do a stand-up comedy workshop or an army fitness day at work… When I tried to discuss it with her calmly this afternoon it ended up with her hyperventilating and having a full-blown panic attack. It took nearly an hour to get her breathing normally again.

She’s now said she simply isn’t going into school on that day, and it’s up to me whether I lie and tell them she’s ill, or if I tell the truth. She’s 17 and I can’t physically force her onto the school bus against her will, so I guess that’s the decision I have to make.

On the one hand, if I tell the school the truth, I worry that it will reflect badly on her - the school have been clear that they expect 100% attendance - and it could maybe even impact the reference they give her for her UCAS application next year (may well be paranoia on my part).

On the other hand, even if I say she’s ill, I’m fairly sure her teachers will see right through it - they know her and they’re fully aware this day is her worst nightmare. Plus she’s never missed school due to illness before so it would be pretty convenient for her to suddenly be ill now. And as I mentioned above, honesty is a key value of mine - I will find it very difficult to lie to the school, and I’m concerned that it’s Dd’s default response to get out of something she doesn’t want to do.

Would you lie to the school in this scenario?
(YABU = tell the school the truth / YANBU = lie and tell the school she’s ill)

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WorkCleanRepeat · 11/05/2025 17:47

I (naively) didn't realise parents still had to get involved with this stuff with sixth formers.

It's her choice though. I wouldn't make her go if she is that uncomfortable. I'd be honest with the school about the reason though. If they gets lots of non-attendance they will need to rethink for next year.

No job I have ever worked in would insist that I done something that caused me a panic attack.

pinkstripeycat · 11/05/2025 17:48

At 17 she can tell them herself. I have a 17 year old and once he was in the 6th form he acted like an adult which is the way the school expect them to behave. If something doesn’t sit right with you,
you explain why and don’t do it.

Nobody needs to lie.

Vipersgonnavipe · 11/05/2025 17:48

DD was so determined to not be forced into a similar thing in y8 that she made herself sick with worry. Actually throwing up.
That was an easy email to write, as she was actually sick.

It sounds an utterly awful activity day that has no benefit to the student at all, so I would happily lie if needed to. Poor kids.

pinkstripeycat · 11/05/2025 17:49

WorkCleanRepeat · 11/05/2025 17:47

I (naively) didn't realise parents still had to get involved with this stuff with sixth formers.

It's her choice though. I wouldn't make her go if she is that uncomfortable. I'd be honest with the school about the reason though. If they gets lots of non-attendance they will need to rethink for next year.

No job I have ever worked in would insist that I done something that caused me a panic attack.

They don’t.

Psychologymam · 11/05/2025 17:49

She is ill - panic and anxiety are very real and this sounds so miserable for her with no tangible benefits. If it was a presentation or something else that she may have to do for uni or work, I’d work with her to address anxiety and try to get school on board to scaffold it for her. But for stand up comedy? I’d tell the truth, my child is too unwell to go in today.

Picklepower · 11/05/2025 17:49

That sounds horrendous, I'd pull a sicky too

AppleKatie · 11/05/2025 17:51

Octavia64 · 11/05/2025 17:06

Tell school she is ill and that the illness is she had a panic attack.

This

chatgptsbestmate · 11/05/2025 17:51

She is already suffering, mental health wise, when thinking about this event. Definitely take the time off sick because she's struggling with her MH specifically relating to this event

No lies necessary

Ankther · 11/05/2025 17:51

Thank you everyone - you’ve made me feel much calmer about this.

I think the pressure the school have been piling on about the importance of the day, combined with my general concerns about dd’s struggles with ‘joining in’, had led me down the wrong path. But I shouldn’t be pressuring her to do something I wouldn’t be comfortable with myself, and it’s not lying to say she’s ill if it’s making her this anxious.

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LilDeVille · 11/05/2025 17:54

You’re massively overthinking. The school are being ridiculous for hosting these things which obviously won’t suit the vast majority of their students. They’re surely expecting absence and unwillingness. Just tell them she’s not participating because it’s causing her huge anxiety - that’s not a lie, what’s the big deal about saying that?

Ankther · 11/05/2025 17:55

WorkCleanRepeat · 11/05/2025 17:47

I (naively) didn't realise parents still had to get involved with this stuff with sixth formers.

It's her choice though. I wouldn't make her go if she is that uncomfortable. I'd be honest with the school about the reason though. If they gets lots of non-attendance they will need to rethink for next year.

No job I have ever worked in would insist that I done something that caused me a panic attack.

I’m starting to realise that DD’s school might be a bit of an outlier here. The headmistress (quite an authoritarian figure) makes a big deal at every parents evening of the fact that the girls have chosen to stay on at school rather than attend a stand-alone sixth form college, and they therefore can’t expect the flexibility and independence they would get at a college.

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AppleKatie · 11/05/2025 17:55

The school I work in would insist on a parent justifying the absence even if a sixth former. We wouldn’t think anything negative about her being off though- and literally nobody will cross checking this absence with her ucas reference. Nobody gets a bad ucas reference either (spoiler)

NewtonsCradle · 11/05/2025 17:55

Imo the school had created a day where most of the teachers can catch up on work, no new marking is generated and the kids who perform poorly academically will be lauded for their comedy and sporting prowess. No one will be bothered if your daughter is or isn't there as she is probably not the target audience.

LizzieVereker · 11/05/2025 17:55

I’m a teacher, I teach a lot of Post 16 students and am normally the first person to say “Get a grip, get in there and try” both with students and my own children, but I wouldn’t in this case. This sounds like a poorly pitched day that will suit/ benefit very few students, I don’t blame your DD at all. Don’t lie though, tel, then why she’s not doing it, then they won’t roll this out again.

Mumof2amazingasdkiddos · 11/05/2025 17:56

Tell them the truth, she's ill. I agree that you should encourage her to do things she doesn't want to do and that honesty is important so tell the school the truth, she's had a panic attack at just the thought of doing this and you would like them to work with you and DD to find a solution. Can she compere the other acts? Can she help out backstage? If they can't or won't come up with an alternative then she stays home.

Straight up lying without trying to find a solution teaches DD to hide/avoid situations she finds unbearable so show her that she can be honest and teach her how to manage this by finding a different approach.

AnotherNaCha · 11/05/2025 17:57

Sounds horrific. She’ll thank you forever for making up an excuse to this institution.

TheEndGameIsOn · 11/05/2025 17:59

If it was my child - who would also hate this - I would keep them off school, tell the school they were unable to come in because of anxiety, and write a strongly worded letter of complaint.

I actually do know that stand up comedy can be great for confidence building - but, it only works if people have chosen to do it. Forcing people is not only unpleasant, it’s counter productive, and I would really question the validity of any facilitator who is going along with this plan.

SENSummer · 11/05/2025 18:00

God I mean she’s an adult really. This doesn’t sit well with me. I was living independently and working full time at 18 I can’t imagine being forced into a comedy workshop at school at that age.

TartanMammy · 11/05/2025 18:02

'dd has been so anxious about the activity today that it has made her physically unwell, as a result she will not be able to attend school today.'

DonningMyHardHat · 11/05/2025 18:02

She’s 17, not 7. Does she actually need you to call in sick for her? What about students who live independently from their parents from 16? I don’t even remember attendance being ‘a thing’ at sixth form. It certainly wasn’t mentioned or questioned during UCAS applications.

With kindness, I think you are overthinking this, and that probably isn’t helping her anxiety.

hellywelly3 · 11/05/2025 18:02

They can’t force her to do it. She should learn to advocate for herself though.
But I do think you need to worry a little less about what the school think.

real13 · 11/05/2025 18:03

I would lie for her.

Even as an adult, this would fill me with complete fear and I would definitely ring in sick if I was meant to do it.

Pancakeflipper · 11/05/2025 18:04

I'd let her have the day off and inform school she's not coming in due to high anxiety/panic.

This day is not well designed to be inclusive. She is very unlikely to gain anything out of it because she's going to be stressing out.

samarrange · 11/05/2025 18:04

If I had been forced to do stand-up comedy by my school, the audience would have been getting a few choice jokes recycled from Sarah Millican and Jimmy Carr. I suspect I would have been rushed off the stage pronto.

On the plus side, this sort of thing will prepare your daughter for the world of work, for when HR sends everyone on a canoe-and-Mars-bar awayday, or some happy-clappy bollocks "teambuilding sessions" that involve smiling inanely while building towers of Lego under the supervision of a pair of neurotic hippies called Ros and Kelvin.

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 11/05/2025 18:04

Actually she may have to do days like this as part of work. If she doesn’t want to do it then it’s up to her, you shouldn’t get involved but it would be good for her to step outside her comfortable zone and join in and it is likely to help her in the future.