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To lie to the school for DD?

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Ankther · 11/05/2025 17:05

DD is in Year 12. Her school runs a ‘Year 12 leadership day’ every year on the last day before May half-term with two half-day activities - usually army-style fitness and debating.

Dd certainly hasn’t been looking forward to this - not so much the debating part (she’s good at English/history and can put together strong arguments) but the army fitness element really isn’t her thing. She’s rubbish at PE but probably more to the point, she struggles socially, and just can’t get on board with ‘enforced fun’ type activities that require everyone to make a fool of themselves in front of others.

She previously had to do an army fitness afternoon in Year 9 - she had been begging me to let her skip it for weeks but I took the line that it’s important to do things that don’t come naturally to you and made her go in. Additionally, honesty is incredibly important to me and I’ve never been willing to lie to the school and tell them she’s ill when she isn’t. However, as soon as she got home she proudly told me that she’d done one activity and then told the teachers she felt dizzy and sat out the rest of the afternoon.

She hadn’t asked to skip the day this time around - I imagine she was planning to sit most of the fitness activities out again like she did in Year 9. However, she found out on Friday that the morning activity isn’t debating but instead a stand-up comedy workshop, which is her absolute worst nightmare. The prospect of having to stand up in front of her peers and try to tell jokes while no one laughs is totally terrifying and humiliating for her.

The usual lines about school preparing for you for adult life where you sometimes have to do things you don’t want aren’t going to work here - as she’s pointed out repeatedly, I’ve never had to do a stand-up comedy workshop or an army fitness day at work… When I tried to discuss it with her calmly this afternoon it ended up with her hyperventilating and having a full-blown panic attack. It took nearly an hour to get her breathing normally again.

She’s now said she simply isn’t going into school on that day, and it’s up to me whether I lie and tell them she’s ill, or if I tell the truth. She’s 17 and I can’t physically force her onto the school bus against her will, so I guess that’s the decision I have to make.

On the one hand, if I tell the school the truth, I worry that it will reflect badly on her - the school have been clear that they expect 100% attendance - and it could maybe even impact the reference they give her for her UCAS application next year (may well be paranoia on my part).

On the other hand, even if I say she’s ill, I’m fairly sure her teachers will see right through it - they know her and they’re fully aware this day is her worst nightmare. Plus she’s never missed school due to illness before so it would be pretty convenient for her to suddenly be ill now. And as I mentioned above, honesty is a key value of mine - I will find it very difficult to lie to the school, and I’m concerned that it’s Dd’s default response to get out of something she doesn’t want to do.

Would you lie to the school in this scenario?
(YABU = tell the school the truth / YANBU = lie and tell the school she’s ill)

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SalfordQuays · 11/05/2025 18:04

TartanMammy · 11/05/2025 18:02

'dd has been so anxious about the activity today that it has made her physically unwell, as a result she will not be able to attend school today.'

This. That’s exactly what I would say.

Pearl97 · 11/05/2025 18:05

We are living in a crazy enough world.

Life is tough enough for teenagers. This is madness. Just decide on the day what to say … but for now support your DD. It’s worry like this that really does affect people.

Panterusblackish · 11/05/2025 18:05

Jesus christ, no wonder kids are not ready for the workplace.

Fuck me, it's a comedy workshop not a firing squad. We're fucked if war makes it to the UK. Does she think she's going to get through life without pain, without scarring, without adversity? How will she learn any resilience?

What an absolute wet lettuce. No backbone.

WildflowerConstellations · 11/05/2025 18:05

SalfordQuays · 11/05/2025 18:04

This. That’s exactly what I would say.

Same

SalfordQuays · 11/05/2025 18:06

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 11/05/2025 18:04

Actually she may have to do days like this as part of work. If she doesn’t want to do it then it’s up to her, you shouldn’t get involved but it would be good for her to step outside her comfortable zone and join in and it is likely to help her in the future.

@LiquoriceAllsorts2 i can’t think of a job that isn’t drama related that would require employees to have to do a stand up comedy routine. A presentation sure, but not comedy.

SalfordQuays · 11/05/2025 18:08

Panterusblackish · 11/05/2025 18:05

Jesus christ, no wonder kids are not ready for the workplace.

Fuck me, it's a comedy workshop not a firing squad. We're fucked if war makes it to the UK. Does she think she's going to get through life without pain, without scarring, without adversity? How will she learn any resilience?

What an absolute wet lettuce. No backbone.

@Panterusblackish Gosh I had no idea that invading armies forced civilians to do stand up comedy routines. Is that a thing now?

WildflowerConstellations · 11/05/2025 18:09

Panterusblackish · 11/05/2025 18:05

Jesus christ, no wonder kids are not ready for the workplace.

Fuck me, it's a comedy workshop not a firing squad. We're fucked if war makes it to the UK. Does she think she's going to get through life without pain, without scarring, without adversity? How will she learn any resilience?

What an absolute wet lettuce. No backbone.

It's a shitty school activity not a life and death situation. It's not actually part of her studies, is it? I've managed to get to almost 40 never having experienced a stand up comedy workshop or bootcamp. And I'm a confident public speaker. Missing this is fine.

LlttledrummergirI · 11/05/2025 18:10

Support your dc. Talk to them and ask them what they would like you to tell the school.

Listen to what your dc needs. Your relationship is more important than this activity.

snowmichael · 11/05/2025 18:14

Tell them the (varnished) truth
She is having panic attacks/hyperventilating/no sleep at just the thought of the comedy bit
That she was OK with the debating bit
You are not going to force her into something that will cause her distress for no benefit to her or the school
Ask if she can come and act in some admin capacity in the morning instead of standing up and telling unfunny jokes?

Topseyt123 · 11/05/2025 18:16

Stand up comedy is a ridiculous proposition from the school. I'd support DD to avoid it. I wouldn't lie, but I would tell them that the very idea of it was causing her severe anxiety so she wouldn't be in that day.

Do sixth formers not report themselves in for absence? Ours could, if I remember rightly. Maybe DD could report herself absent and then be backed up by you if required.

Ankther · 11/05/2025 18:19

Topseyt123 · 11/05/2025 18:16

Stand up comedy is a ridiculous proposition from the school. I'd support DD to avoid it. I wouldn't lie, but I would tell them that the very idea of it was causing her severe anxiety so she wouldn't be in that day.

Do sixth formers not report themselves in for absence? Ours could, if I remember rightly. Maybe DD could report herself absent and then be backed up by you if required.

No, parents have to report sixth formers’ absences, even once they turn 18. It’s a high-performing but very strict girls’ grammar school, with a fairly authoritarian headmistress.

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Topseyt123 · 11/05/2025 18:20

Panterusblackish · 11/05/2025 18:05

Jesus christ, no wonder kids are not ready for the workplace.

Fuck me, it's a comedy workshop not a firing squad. We're fucked if war makes it to the UK. Does she think she's going to get through life without pain, without scarring, without adversity? How will she learn any resilience?

What an absolute wet lettuce. No backbone.

Do you do stand up comedy? Confidently? Comfortably standing up on a stage in front of others to do it?

Or do you just lambast others who don't want to do it and aren't suited to from the comfort of your phone and armchair?

zeibesaffron · 11/05/2025 18:21

I would absolutely support my DD in this instance and would lie to school if needed. It sounds awful what they are making her do and I don’t blame her for not wanting to go in.

Both my kids did their uni applications- my DD’s attendance was about 80% due to her long term condition- she got 5 uni offers no problem.

Topseyt123 · 11/05/2025 18:22

Ankther · 11/05/2025 18:19

No, parents have to report sixth formers’ absences, even once they turn 18. It’s a high-performing but very strict girls’ grammar school, with a fairly authoritarian headmistress.

OK, in that case I would phone her in absent and tell them the truth about the severe anxiety this foolishness of theirs is causing.

RedSkyDelights · 11/05/2025 18:22

Is the head of year/sixth form (or whatever person looks after pastoral care for DD) likely to be more amenable?

In similar circumstances, I suggested DD put her point of view across to her head of year. The head of year thanked her for doing so personally and not via a parent and said that she clearly understood DD's point of view. She also told DD that she couldn't officially condone her missing the day, but she would totally understand if her parent notified her as sick.

although the end result may have been the same it felt like a more mature way of tackling the problem.

Inyournewdress · 11/05/2025 18:23

I would contact the school and say that you have decided you are not happy to send her in, make it your decision. Say the activities are very unsuitable and not worth the stress they cause. Stupid school, they can get stuffed.

Moveoverdarlin · 11/05/2025 18:25

I’m a stickler for attendance and getting stuck in with these sorts of things, but I totally get why she would hate that. Let her have the day off sick.

I think most adults would ring in sick if they had to do a stand up comedy stint. Bloody awful.

Part of me hopes the kids that do attend start reeling off really inappropriate, blue jokes.

CheerfulYank · 11/05/2025 18:25

I value honesty too, but I also said my DS (17) was ill the other day because he had to pick up his suit for prom. It’s a balance 🤣

I’d say she has a migraine. It’s one thing to give things a go if it’s just something you don’t particularly care for, it’s another to be forced to do something that you’re actually sick with anxiety over.

mummytoonetryingfortwo · 11/05/2025 18:25

YABU.

Topseyt123 · 11/05/2025 18:26

RedSkyDelights · 11/05/2025 18:22

Is the head of year/sixth form (or whatever person looks after pastoral care for DD) likely to be more amenable?

In similar circumstances, I suggested DD put her point of view across to her head of year. The head of year thanked her for doing so personally and not via a parent and said that she clearly understood DD's point of view. She also told DD that she couldn't officially condone her missing the day, but she would totally understand if her parent notified her as sick.

although the end result may have been the same it felt like a more mature way of tackling the problem.

This could be a good approach. Start off that way, but still allowing the day off.

DD can always do some proper studying at home, for her actual A Levels. Far more beneficial than this bollocks.

sassyduck · 11/05/2025 18:26

It sounds horrific. I'd want to stay home too.

SouthLondonMum22 · 11/05/2025 18:27

I'd call her in sick without a second thought.

Ankther · 11/05/2025 18:28

RedSkyDelights · 11/05/2025 18:22

Is the head of year/sixth form (or whatever person looks after pastoral care for DD) likely to be more amenable?

In similar circumstances, I suggested DD put her point of view across to her head of year. The head of year thanked her for doing so personally and not via a parent and said that she clearly understood DD's point of view. She also told DD that she couldn't officially condone her missing the day, but she would totally understand if her parent notified her as sick.

although the end result may have been the same it felt like a more mature way of tackling the problem.

The head of sixth form is the one organising the day, and signed the letter that was emailed to parents on Friday stressing how important it is - so unlikely to be sympathetic…

But DD’s form tutor is great, and really seems to ‘get’ dd, so maybe she should be honest with her about how she’s feeling.

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Howdoesithappenlikethis · 11/05/2025 18:30

Just tell school she's not well, I've told this lie a couple of times for my dc in certain situations, it's just not worth it imo. Id also hate do anything like that so your dd has my sympathies.

lros · 11/05/2025 18:30

I would just be honest and tell them she won’t be attending on that day because it is having a negative impact on her mental health and exacerbated her anxiety. In turn this is affecting her academic study. It isn’t mandatory. And it won’t affect her UCAS points. If they have an issue with this ask them to discuss their concerns with you.