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AIBU?

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To think visiting DP’s family doesn’t count as a holiday?

510 replies

RhiannonTheFlorist · 10/05/2025 12:54

Been with my partner for 5 years and we have a 2 year old daughter. He is from a country in Central Europe. Every August we go for a week, and every other Christmas (we alternate between my family and his). This Christmas we are due to go there.

Before the baby we would have 2 holidays a year (not including the semi-annual Christmas visit) one to visit his family, and one to a nice resort type place. Since the baby, we can’t afford to do this. The Summer trip and Christmas trip are in the budget, but another holiday on top of that isn’t doable, and we couldn’t get the time off anyway.

I have nothing against his family but the trips to the village my partner grew up in aren’t particularly relaxing for me. We fly into the airport in the capital city, then have a 5 hour train and bus journey to get to his village, and I get motion sickness from buses. We also often have a late flight and end up waiting at the dodgy city train station until early morning when the trains start running and last time I got harassed by beggars on the platform when I was heard speaking English, DP gave them short shrift thankfully but it was still scary. DD is also starting to develop bus motion sickness so I’m dreading that part of the journey.

His family don’t speak any English, which is fine, I shouldn’t expect them too. But their language is notoriously hard to learn (please no comments about me needing to learn it, it’s literally known as one of the hardest languages in the world and I have a toddler and work full-time) and despite my efforts I have really struggle to have conversations with them beyond basic politeness. The past 2 times we’ve been they have pestered DP that I need to hurry up and learn the language. His father is a smoker and alcoholic and the house stinks of smoke, so since the baby we stay with his aunt instead, and DP’s father always argues with DP about it as he gets offended that we won’t bring the baby in his house. Also, the first time we took DD at 4 months she developed a temperature and had to be taken on the bus to the hospital and everyone was talking around me in their own language (doctors, DP and family) and I was distraught not knowing what was going on, having to wait for DP to translate. I’m scared of this happening again. DD is also a picky eater and the village shop is tiny and won’t have any of her ‘safe’ foods.

On the other hand, there are some positives.They are very hospitable and they cook for us etc, we have BBQs and days out in the nearest city (though this does require long bus trips). But in the village there is not much phone signal and once they start drinking and having a laugh I am completely excluded and don’t understand a word that is being said.

I understand that DP needs to maintain a relationship with his family and that I signed up for this when committing to him, but I must admit I’m dying for a proper holiday this Summer where I can relax, beachfront walks, play with DD in the pool etc. Just the 3 of us. I raised the idea to DP of doing this instead as we’re going to his country for Christmas anyway, and he was horrified. He also pointed out that his country gets hot in the Summer (it does, can reach 30 degrees), and therefore it still counts as a sunny holiday. He also points out that going to his country we only pay for flights and spends (probably around £1000 for the 3 of us). I found some lovely all-inclusive for £1800, and we could afford that extra £800 but we couldn’t afford that AND the Summer trip to his country AND the Christmas trip.

I’m tempted to tell him that me and DD will swerve the trip to his country this year, and may invite my sister to come somewhere with me and DD instead. But I’m worried this will upset him and his family who absolutely adore my DD.

AIBU?

OP posts:
TheSandgroper · 10/05/2025 12:59

Hire a car. Do it yourself if you have to.

RhiannonTheFlorist · 10/05/2025 13:01

Unfortunately hire car isn’t an option. I don’t have a license and DP only passed last year. None of the family drive either.

It’s quite a nightmare to navigate with me and DD getting motion sickness from buses, but we live in a town centre so manage okay when at home.

OP posts:
suburberphobe · 10/05/2025 13:06

But I’m worried this will upset him and his family

Who gives a fuck? Who made them the boss of you?

You've done it often enough that by now you deserve the holiday you want.

Calmdownpeople · 10/05/2025 13:07

How awful for your partner. He wants to go home and see his family once a year and have them spend time with his kid and partner and you won’t make this sacrifice. He makes a sacrifice every day living abroad and not seeing his family. Thats the deal. As someone who lives abroad I would be horrified too if my partner wouldnt visit my family and friends for one week of the other 51 that we live here. Living abroad is hard and it’s awful not having your family so involved with your kids. Sorry OP on this one personally and speaking from experience you are being very selfish. Taking your kid away from their grandparents and family rhe one week a year they can be there with them (and learn about their language and culture) is beyond selfish. Support your partner and the fact they live in your country and for you and suck it up.

nopineapplepizza · 10/05/2025 13:10

He can go and visit his family with his child and you can go on holiday with your child and sister.

Kid gets double holidays, he gets to see his family, you get a proper holiday, everyone wins!

TheSandgroper · 10/05/2025 13:10

Then investigate a chauffeur because it seems the worst of it is the five hours on the bus.

However, I do think that reducing his family time to have a few “proper” holidays needs looking into. He did leave to make a new life elsewhere and you are that new life.

I come from a country full of immigrants and did marry and move hemispheres, before I get flamed.

Unexpecteddrivinginstructor · 10/05/2025 13:14

Does Google translate cover the language? It might not be perfect but better than nothing. Is your dh talking to your dd in his language so your children will be bilingual. I think for now you need to just go with it because his family will want to see the children. In time though (when they are about 10) he could go with just the children and you could do a different holiday with them a different time.

RhiannonTheFlorist · 10/05/2025 13:15

Calmdownpeople · 10/05/2025 13:07

How awful for your partner. He wants to go home and see his family once a year and have them spend time with his kid and partner and you won’t make this sacrifice. He makes a sacrifice every day living abroad and not seeing his family. Thats the deal. As someone who lives abroad I would be horrified too if my partner wouldnt visit my family and friends for one week of the other 51 that we live here. Living abroad is hard and it’s awful not having your family so involved with your kids. Sorry OP on this one personally and speaking from experience you are being very selfish. Taking your kid away from their grandparents and family rhe one week a year they can be there with them (and learn about their language and culture) is beyond selfish. Support your partner and the fact they live in your country and for you and suck it up.

You make some valid points but we are going in December, we go for a week every other Christmas. I’m not saying I want to permanently stop going. But maybe the years we go for Christmas we don’t go in the Summer. Otherwise we’ll never go anywhere else ever again, especially as we want to have another child and holidays will get a lot more expensive.

i work full-time just like DP does in a high stress NHS job. And the money for the trips to his country comes from both of our disposable incomes. Is it fair that I never get a say?

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OttersAreMySpiritAnimal · 10/05/2025 13:17

You could shrink the length of the stays and encourage your partner to also go another time without you. I think he should be able to see his family every year, but shorter and more frequent might be better? You should also be able to have a break that suits you, so I think it's about finding a compromise that stretches the money available to cover all bases.

Calmdownpeople · 10/05/2025 13:18

RhiannonTheFlorist · 10/05/2025 13:15

You make some valid points but we are going in December, we go for a week every other Christmas. I’m not saying I want to permanently stop going. But maybe the years we go for Christmas we don’t go in the Summer. Otherwise we’ll never go anywhere else ever again, especially as we want to have another child and holidays will get a lot more expensive.

i work full-time just like DP does in a high stress NHS job. And the money for the trips to his country comes from both of our disposable incomes. Is it fair that I never get a say?

Edited

Well as parents get older and it gets harder to watch your children not grow up in the way that you do then once a year every two years isn’t okay. The guilt of leaving aging parents is real. The homesickness is real. The desire to take your kids back to where you grew up and experience the world the way you did is real.

ZZTopGuitarSolo · 10/05/2025 13:18

Calmdownpeople · 10/05/2025 13:07

How awful for your partner. He wants to go home and see his family once a year and have them spend time with his kid and partner and you won’t make this sacrifice. He makes a sacrifice every day living abroad and not seeing his family. Thats the deal. As someone who lives abroad I would be horrified too if my partner wouldnt visit my family and friends for one week of the other 51 that we live here. Living abroad is hard and it’s awful not having your family so involved with your kids. Sorry OP on this one personally and speaking from experience you are being very selfish. Taking your kid away from their grandparents and family rhe one week a year they can be there with them (and learn about their language and culture) is beyond selfish. Support your partner and the fact they live in your country and for you and suck it up.

As someone who’s lived abroad for nearly 20 years, I totally disagree with this.

RhiannonTheFlorist · 10/05/2025 13:19

Calmdownpeople · 10/05/2025 13:18

Well as parents get older and it gets harder to watch your children not grow up in the way that you do then once a year every two years isn’t okay. The guilt of leaving aging parents is real. The homesickness is real. The desire to take your kids back to where you grew up and experience the world the way you did is real.

We would still go once a year, but not twice.

OP posts:
Pottedpalm · 10/05/2025 13:20

Is there somewhere not too far from the in laws where you could holiday? So maybe go for ten days and spend half with them and half properly on holiday?

Velvian · 10/05/2025 13:22

Is there a resort holiday option in his own country where his family can meet you?

If the above is not an option, can you spend the extra £800 that the AI would cost on things to make it better? Transport, a few nights in a hotel in the city?

Is there no one in the extended family (cousins?) Who would collect you from and take you back to the airport for payment?

Chesnutsroastingnow · 10/05/2025 13:22

Maybe go on a nice family holiday instead of spending Christmas with your family?

DogWithoutItsPerson · 10/05/2025 13:23

Staying in a family members house is not a holiday.

Dont they ever travel to visit you? I’d agree to 1 trip a year. Not 2.

Once DD is older he can take her on his own.

SnugNightsss · 10/05/2025 13:23

Calmdownpeople · 10/05/2025 13:07

How awful for your partner. He wants to go home and see his family once a year and have them spend time with his kid and partner and you won’t make this sacrifice. He makes a sacrifice every day living abroad and not seeing his family. Thats the deal. As someone who lives abroad I would be horrified too if my partner wouldnt visit my family and friends for one week of the other 51 that we live here. Living abroad is hard and it’s awful not having your family so involved with your kids. Sorry OP on this one personally and speaking from experience you are being very selfish. Taking your kid away from their grandparents and family rhe one week a year they can be there with them (and learn about their language and culture) is beyond selfish. Support your partner and the fact they live in your country and for you and suck it up.

But she’s going for a week at Xmas!

Ablondiebutagoody · 10/05/2025 13:24

You sound very selfish. It's his family ffs. I think it sounds like a nice trip

TangerinePlate · 10/05/2025 13:24

Are you going to Poland OP? Sounds strangely familiar.

Have a conversation with him and tell him you want to alternate the holidays.
You’re also working and have a say in where you want to go. He can go himself.

Yes, he will argue and will be “upset” and his family and yada yada.
You deserve the holidays now and again instead of schlepping in the fecking buses in hot August.

InBedBy10 · 10/05/2025 13:25

I bet you see your family more than twice a year. Like you said in your OP, you signed up for this when you got with him.

I totally understand wanting a relaxing beach holiday too, so make it happen. Save up, get a small loan, book with a holiday firm that let's you make monthly payments.... I don't believe it's totally unachievable. There's always a way even if it only happens once every 2/3 years.

This is MN where people believe you should never see your parents again once you turn 18 🙄 so I'm sure you'll have plenty of people agreeing with you. In the real world, what your suggesting is utterly selfish and may deeply damage your relationship.

HolidayHattie · 10/05/2025 13:28

I assume it's Hungary given the "hardest language to learn".

Out of interest, how often do you see your own parents? Is it only once every two years, at Christmas? Or much more often?

I do understand your frustration, but I do also feel it's something you signed up for when you got together and had DC. Don't deprive DD of half her family.

Tartanboots · 10/05/2025 13:29

Hire a car to avoid the long journeys by bus? Would they come and visit you instead? It would be a good idea to at least try and learn the language a bit, when you have time, just for politeness if nothing else.
If you don't want to go then don't go, but you can't really stop your DP from going. If you didn't go for a couple of years, would that save enough money on flights to have another holiday somewhere else?

ANiceBigCupOfTea · 10/05/2025 13:30

I know it feels like a sacrifice to you that you're not getting a holiday, but your DP is missing birthdays, family events etc and making the sacrifice that he only sees his family twice a year. As you said yourself, you signed up for it when you got with him.

HiRen · 10/05/2025 13:32

As someone who lives abroad, using ALL available funds in a year to visit his family isn’t on.

On the years that you don’t go to his family for Christmas, can you have a foreign holiday of your choosing?

I think that in the years you don’t have Christmas with his family, you should all go in the summer. In the years that you do have Christmas with his family, you should either all go somewhere else, or let him take his DD while you save your holiday entitlement for other things. Before long you’ll be needing it for childcare around school holidays, especially if you have a second child.

DontReplyIWillLie · 10/05/2025 13:35

How awful for your partner. He wants to go home and see his family once a year and have them spend time with his kid and partner and you won’t make this sacrifice. He makes a sacrifice every day living abroad and not seeing his family. Thats the deal.

You’ve made a massive assumption here. Has OP suggested anywhere that her husband actually wants to live in his home country? He presumably wasn’t when they met, unless OP was living in a country where she can’t speak any of the language and somehow convinced him they should relocate to the UK once married.

If moving here before he met the OP here wasn’t a sacrifice, I fail to see how it’s a daily sacrifice now.