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To think visiting DP’s family doesn’t count as a holiday?

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RhiannonTheFlorist · 10/05/2025 12:54

Been with my partner for 5 years and we have a 2 year old daughter. He is from a country in Central Europe. Every August we go for a week, and every other Christmas (we alternate between my family and his). This Christmas we are due to go there.

Before the baby we would have 2 holidays a year (not including the semi-annual Christmas visit) one to visit his family, and one to a nice resort type place. Since the baby, we can’t afford to do this. The Summer trip and Christmas trip are in the budget, but another holiday on top of that isn’t doable, and we couldn’t get the time off anyway.

I have nothing against his family but the trips to the village my partner grew up in aren’t particularly relaxing for me. We fly into the airport in the capital city, then have a 5 hour train and bus journey to get to his village, and I get motion sickness from buses. We also often have a late flight and end up waiting at the dodgy city train station until early morning when the trains start running and last time I got harassed by beggars on the platform when I was heard speaking English, DP gave them short shrift thankfully but it was still scary. DD is also starting to develop bus motion sickness so I’m dreading that part of the journey.

His family don’t speak any English, which is fine, I shouldn’t expect them too. But their language is notoriously hard to learn (please no comments about me needing to learn it, it’s literally known as one of the hardest languages in the world and I have a toddler and work full-time) and despite my efforts I have really struggle to have conversations with them beyond basic politeness. The past 2 times we’ve been they have pestered DP that I need to hurry up and learn the language. His father is a smoker and alcoholic and the house stinks of smoke, so since the baby we stay with his aunt instead, and DP’s father always argues with DP about it as he gets offended that we won’t bring the baby in his house. Also, the first time we took DD at 4 months she developed a temperature and had to be taken on the bus to the hospital and everyone was talking around me in their own language (doctors, DP and family) and I was distraught not knowing what was going on, having to wait for DP to translate. I’m scared of this happening again. DD is also a picky eater and the village shop is tiny and won’t have any of her ‘safe’ foods.

On the other hand, there are some positives.They are very hospitable and they cook for us etc, we have BBQs and days out in the nearest city (though this does require long bus trips). But in the village there is not much phone signal and once they start drinking and having a laugh I am completely excluded and don’t understand a word that is being said.

I understand that DP needs to maintain a relationship with his family and that I signed up for this when committing to him, but I must admit I’m dying for a proper holiday this Summer where I can relax, beachfront walks, play with DD in the pool etc. Just the 3 of us. I raised the idea to DP of doing this instead as we’re going to his country for Christmas anyway, and he was horrified. He also pointed out that his country gets hot in the Summer (it does, can reach 30 degrees), and therefore it still counts as a sunny holiday. He also points out that going to his country we only pay for flights and spends (probably around £1000 for the 3 of us). I found some lovely all-inclusive for £1800, and we could afford that extra £800 but we couldn’t afford that AND the Summer trip to his country AND the Christmas trip.

I’m tempted to tell him that me and DD will swerve the trip to his country this year, and may invite my sister to come somewhere with me and DD instead. But I’m worried this will upset him and his family who absolutely adore my DD.

AIBU?

OP posts:
Ddakji · 10/05/2025 14:00

Calmdownpeople · 10/05/2025 13:07

How awful for your partner. He wants to go home and see his family once a year and have them spend time with his kid and partner and you won’t make this sacrifice. He makes a sacrifice every day living abroad and not seeing his family. Thats the deal. As someone who lives abroad I would be horrified too if my partner wouldnt visit my family and friends for one week of the other 51 that we live here. Living abroad is hard and it’s awful not having your family so involved with your kids. Sorry OP on this one personally and speaking from experience you are being very selfish. Taking your kid away from their grandparents and family rhe one week a year they can be there with them (and learn about their language and culture) is beyond selfish. Support your partner and the fact they live in your country and for you and suck it up.

Why can’t they come and visit the OP and her DP here? How very selfish of them not to sacrifice one week a year to do that, to maintain a relationship with their son and DGC. How awful of them.

Maxorias · 10/05/2025 14:00

Hello OP,

I also live abroad. I don't visit my family every year because I can't afford it. My mother has made noises about visiting but I'm not holding my breath.

Can your partner's family visit instead ? Not all of them at the same time but his parents maybe ?

Have they made any effort about speaking english to you ? My brother's partner doesn't speak our language, we speak english with her, and my partner neither speaks our language nor english, so last time I had an... interesting time trying to not exclude anyone in three different languages (it was exhausting). While it's reasonable to expect you to learn at least basic courtesies it's also reasonable to expect them to make some efforts towards communication as well.

Is there anywhere near his parents' that you could go just the three of you as an occasional day out ?

I also think it's unreasonable to expect you to never have an independant holiday. Right now money's tight but when we have funds I'd like to take the family to a holiday place in this country. Earlier we went to the beach for a week. Only thing we could afford.

Can you and your partner sit down and look at finances and options ? Is a 1800 bucks all inclusive really the only option ? Could you find something cheaper, airbnb style maybe so you cook your own meals and save on the catering, in a beach town ?

WearyAuldWumman · 10/05/2025 14:01

Ddakji · 10/05/2025 14:00

Why can’t they come and visit the OP and her DP here? How very selfish of them not to sacrifice one week a year to do that, to maintain a relationship with their son and DGC. How awful of them.

They probably can’t afford it, particularly if it’s an ex Communist country.

Cottagecheeseisnotcheese · 10/05/2025 14:02

@Ddakji probably the cost prevents them coming; very rural central Europe often incomes are as low as £300 a month, flights are not cheaper so it may simply be impossible for them to afford to travel even to the capital nevermind the UK

Namechangean · 10/05/2025 14:03

Calmdownpeople · 10/05/2025 13:07

How awful for your partner. He wants to go home and see his family once a year and have them spend time with his kid and partner and you won’t make this sacrifice. He makes a sacrifice every day living abroad and not seeing his family. Thats the deal. As someone who lives abroad I would be horrified too if my partner wouldnt visit my family and friends for one week of the other 51 that we live here. Living abroad is hard and it’s awful not having your family so involved with your kids. Sorry OP on this one personally and speaking from experience you are being very selfish. Taking your kid away from their grandparents and family rhe one week a year they can be there with them (and learn about their language and culture) is beyond selfish. Support your partner and the fact they live in your country and for you and suck it up.

It’s not a sacrifice he’s made a choice to emigrate. And she’s going one week already. She’s asking not to go twice

Ddakji · 10/05/2025 14:03

Would go to a holiday destination within his home country and asking his parents to join you for part of that be an option, @RhiannonTheFlorist? Because that does sound pretty miserable.

Otherwise, every other year. And they come to visit you as well.

ThejoyofNC · 10/05/2025 14:04

Once a year is enough. Don't they ever travel to you?

Ddakji · 10/05/2025 14:04

Cottagecheeseisnotcheese · 10/05/2025 14:02

@Ddakji probably the cost prevents them coming; very rural central Europe often incomes are as low as £300 a month, flights are not cheaper so it may simply be impossible for them to afford to travel even to the capital nevermind the UK

Ah right, I didn’t know that.

NicolaCasanova · 10/05/2025 14:06

Sit on a folders newspaper for the bus sickness.

If going to visit family isn’t a holiday then de haven’t been on holiday in years!

Ddakji · 10/05/2025 14:06

WearyAuldWumman · 10/05/2025 14:01

They probably can’t afford it, particularly if it’s an ex Communist country.

I was being sarcastic to that poster, but even so - they have good reason to not visit (at all!), the OP has good reason not to spend her entire holiday budget on an annual trip that isn’t much, if any, of a holiday for her.

So a compromise needs to be reached.

Picklepower · 10/05/2025 14:09

Honestly I'm shocked you've put up with this for so long. Can't he go by himself for a few days in summer and then have a normal holiday. It's sound horrendous.

RhiannonTheFlorist · 10/05/2025 14:10

Yes it’s Hungary. The first few times we went before the baby we’d get a nice hotel in Budapest for 3 nights and then 4 nights in his family’s village which was a nice balance. At least if we did that there would be the zoo, a swimming pool and parks etc to take DD to. But he says Budapest is too expensive and he doesn’t want to stay there as he’s seen it all before.

His family can’t afford to visit us, the dad is on state benefits equal to less than £100gbp per month. The elderly relatives could never afford it nor would they have the confidence to come. Same for DP’s aunt.

OP posts:
honeylulu · 10/05/2025 14:11

WearyAuldWumman · 10/05/2025 14:00

To add - if it’s Hungarian, that’s a nightmare to learn. Finn-Ugursk dialects are notoriously difficult.

I was going to guess Hungarian too. When travelling in Europe we managed to cobble together some words and phrases in must languages but Hungarian utterly defeated us. I have a Hungarian friend who also speaks fluent Romanian and English - i am in SW mawe!

I agree with the posters saying once a year is enough. I would hate never having the option to choose a different summer holiday.

LadyGaGasPokerFace · 10/05/2025 14:12

Is your dp Hungarian by any chance? I don’t like the idea of you waiting for trains to get to the village. I’d be hiring a car which is what I do as my family are a good 2 hours drive from the airport. Why doesn’t he go another time on his own? I’m going with my dds on my own without dh, he doesn’t speak the language either and the journey is hard work.

LuellaB · 10/05/2025 14:12

OP, I’m facing similar (ish, my husband’s parents live in the UK and speak English but the rest of his family are in Poland). If it is Poland, there are lovely beaches! I am trying with the language and not getting very far but fortunately we’re kind of aligned on lots of Poland holidays when we have kids and they’re little as his grandparents are still around, there is a fully functioning house we can stay in, as a country you can do any of city, mountain, beach, lake etc and it’s relatively cheap and travelling with kids can be hard. The thing that makes it easier for us is we both drive and usually hire a car when we go to visit, which makes everything a lot more straightforward and we have plenty of autonomy. It seems like this is the thing that’s missing for you really?

edited to add: just seen it’s Hungary! Could you do a trip to a cabin/lake/forest or something to make it more holiday like? And seriously do get your licence, will make all the difference

TonTonMacoute · 10/05/2025 14:14

You are right, visiting his family isn't a holiday, but it is an important and necessary thing for you to do. It's three weeks every two years, this is not a lot for your DP to ask.

Your actual problem is that you can't afford a holiday now you have a baby, that's tough but many of us have been in that position. YABU to expect your DP to give up his family visit for that, we make quite a few sacrifices when we have children.

GRex · 10/05/2025 14:16

Your child is only 2, and you alternate Christmas. So you've actually only been 2 summers and 1 Christmas, and now are complaining about your great sacrifice. That really isn't a lot. Even if you stay home, you have 3 other weeks of leave to spend just the 3 of you.

I think it's ok actually to say you'll do one trip each year but make it 2 weeks so it's easier with less travel time, and they all get as much time with your DH and DD. You could consider different "stops" too, adding cost but also fun, e.g. 4 days in the capital to explore before you go to see family. If you're struggling financially for an extra holiday then you'll need to get creative; look up sites like campspace and pick places you can get to by train, or try youth hostels in a family room. With a 2yo you can get cheap trips abroad out of season (during school term), try skyscanner.

RhiannonTheFlorist · 10/05/2025 14:17

RhiannonTheFlorist · 10/05/2025 14:10

Yes it’s Hungary. The first few times we went before the baby we’d get a nice hotel in Budapest for 3 nights and then 4 nights in his family’s village which was a nice balance. At least if we did that there would be the zoo, a swimming pool and parks etc to take DD to. But he says Budapest is too expensive and he doesn’t want to stay there as he’s seen it all before.

His family can’t afford to visit us, the dad is on state benefits equal to less than £100gbp per month. The elderly relatives could never afford it nor would they have the confidence to come. Same for DP’s aunt.

Also I love Budapest so would be happy to spend 3 days there and 4 in the village but he doesn’t like it.

OP posts:
Enko · 10/05/2025 14:19

Calmdownpeople · 10/05/2025 13:07

How awful for your partner. He wants to go home and see his family once a year and have them spend time with his kid and partner and you won’t make this sacrifice. He makes a sacrifice every day living abroad and not seeing his family. Thats the deal. As someone who lives abroad I would be horrified too if my partner wouldnt visit my family and friends for one week of the other 51 that we live here. Living abroad is hard and it’s awful not having your family so involved with your kids. Sorry OP on this one personally and speaking from experience you are being very selfish. Taking your kid away from their grandparents and family rhe one week a year they can be there with them (and learn about their language and culture) is beyond selfish. Support your partner and the fact they live in your country and for you and suck it up.

As someone who has lived abroad from my childhood country for 35 years now I disagree with most of this.

1 I do not make a "sacrifice" every day to like in the UK with my family. I as an adult made the decision to remain in the UK. Later I made decisions to marry and have child4en. This is not a sacrifice in any shape or form is it a decions you make and you take responsibility for your own decisions.

2 my husband and children also do not sacrifice anything by going on holiday to my childhood country (Denmark in my case) despite them not speaking the language well.

3 she is not taking the child away they can equally make the choice to come to the UK on holiday. Or they can offer to pay for it so the family can afford a 2nd holiday

4 ops dh and any others of us who have chosen ton ot have our adult life in the country our parents and family are in are not doing so "for them" see point 1. Take responsibility for your own decisions.

Lastly to @RhiannonTheFlorist. We did not return to Denmark yearly to see my family. We could not afford this and holidays so we did so less frequently. The children still have a close connection to Denmark all bar 1 of my 4 have spend extended times in Denmark at different ages and love it.

It is jot unreasonable to want a holiday I have mever felt going to Denmark was a holiday it was visiting family. Please do not feel guilty for wanting more than this all the time.

Ddakji · 10/05/2025 14:22

RhiannonTheFlorist · 10/05/2025 14:17

Also I love Budapest so would be happy to spend 3 days there and 4 in the village but he doesn’t like it.

He sounds pretty selfish, to be honest. You are compromising by only going to his family’s but he won’t compromise at all.

LadyGaGasPokerFace · 10/05/2025 14:24

Actually, is there not an earlier flight to BUD? I’ve booked BA and an early flight that arrives at 11am.

MimiGC · 10/05/2025 14:25

Instead of you going there, could you and your partner pay for his parents to come to you some years? That might be cheaper, especially as you will have to pay for plane seat for your daughter now she’s two.

WiddlinDiddlin · 10/05/2025 14:29

I think once a year is fine - it doesn't sound like a holiday for you much, and I think you could improve things..

You could put more effort into learning the language - I get the 'I don't have time' but it would go a long way to improving things, I would make time. Equally, it'd be nice if some of them learned some english, a much easier language to learn and they likely have a lot more free time on their hands, so I can see how its a bit unpleasant if they've made zero effort to do that.

I don't follow why your DP can't hire a car, he can now drive, that would make things a lot easier.

Splitting the holiday between staying with them and staying in a resort of some sort also seems like a good option for some trips.

I assume he made the choice to move to the UK before he met you, and this 'sacrifice' in moving away from his family was because it brought him certain benefits (quality of life, job etc) so I really don't think it's fair to blame you for that!

Anyway, it certainly doesn't sound like a lot of fun for you, and I absolutely do not agree that the fact 'it gets hot here' means its a holiday!

RhiannonTheFlorist · 10/05/2025 14:31

LadyGaGasPokerFace · 10/05/2025 14:24

Actually, is there not an earlier flight to BUD? I’ve booked BA and an early flight that arrives at 11am.

Sadly we can’t afford BA!

OP posts:
Dagnabit · 10/05/2025 14:34

YANBU - going once a year is fine if you want to spend your spare cash on other experiences. Your DP is being unreasonable as he doesn’t want to compromise at all. You’re happy to go if you split the visit between the village and Budapest but he doesn’t want to because “he’s done it before”? You’ve done the village before but you’re not refusing to go to there. He’s selfish.