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To think MNHQ should delete all chat about ‘the golden/bonus dose’ for those on WLI?

240 replies

istrich · 01/05/2025 16:03

I use the weight loss forums quite a lot and with the arrival of WLI they are busier than ever. But, it’s worrying the amount of people who are misusing their prescription and discussing with others how to do so. Should MNHQ take action here?

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GustyBaloo · 01/05/2025 18:58

MrsPlantagenet · 01/05/2025 18:56

It used to be that you could ‘hard click’ and get the extra dose, but it appears they have changed the mechanism as it’s no longer possible. This is why people use syringes to extract the 5th dose. It’s nuts not to, imo.

We’re talking about very safe sub-cutaneous injections - it’s not like people are popping a vein.

Which the OP agreed pages ago.

Agreed they were BU.

The rest is just going round in circles.

istrich · 01/05/2025 19:05

GustyBaloo · 01/05/2025 18:32

Can I ask what prompted the post though?

In all honesty, you're not wrong in that prescription drugs are being openly abused and the means to do so are posted freely.
I openly abuse Mounjaro to get an extra dose.
Sometimes I abuse my other prescribed drugs to get some extra sleep! But I'm not condoning that, or naming the drugs or what I take because that would be frowned upon.

So, you aren't being unreasonable. You don't have to accept that you are.

I'm interested in your reasons though for not wanting it discussed.

Because I'm nosey like that!

I don't think it will be too long until 'golden dose' posts are banned. They are after all giving information about abusing a prescribed medication. I've got my syringes and badly built IKEA flat pack rubbish and I shall abuse.

I get prescribed 240mg codeine daily. I don't take it daily. If I took full dose I'd be in la la land feeling dizzy and shit. I don't like the stuff.
However if I did and started explaining to people that it's much better to snort it (for example!) I'd soon be banned.

So, OP isn't wrong. Those of us doing it have made our choices and don't see it as wrong.

It's a very fine line I think that's being drawn.

I don’t really know what promos it tbh. I just had a thought and went with it. Turns out I was definitely wrong to suggest it should not be discussed. I’m glad I have learned from this thread.

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istrich · 01/05/2025 19:06

notatinydancer · 01/05/2025 18:36

Yes you can. I’ve drawn it up with diabetic syringes which I bought from the chemists.

I’m know. I was meaning physically form the pen as the other 4 doses.

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Horserider5678 · 01/05/2025 19:06

istrich · 01/05/2025 16:10

Because the prescription is 4 doses using the pen as directed not 5 doses, 4 as directed and one with a needle you bought online?

whatever you think about taking the extra you cannot deny the misuse element

Seriously? Hardly misuse of medication, given the cost and there is one full dose left I don’t blame users doing this. I find it incredible that it bothers you, I suspect most prescribers know it’s being done!

istrich · 01/05/2025 19:08

toomuchfaff · 01/05/2025 18:49

how is it taken then? if not via the pen?

An insulin needle which I have said so many times but someone said you just take it as you do the other doses. I’m confused about that because why would people be using an insulin needle if you can just die the pen?

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istrich · 01/05/2025 19:09

PuggyPuggyPuggy · 01/05/2025 18:55

I clicked on this thread purely because I had no idea what the thread title meant. Now I know. Streisand effect, innit 😂

I don’t know what that means

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istrich · 01/05/2025 19:10

gerul · 01/05/2025 18:54

No, the "wider audience" doesn't know what the F you're talking about and don't care.

(I didn't even know what WLI was until I clicked open the thread)

Ok thanks.

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SilenceInside · 01/05/2025 19:14

@istrich surely you’ve realised by now there are two ways you can use the leftover liquid?!

One, by twisting the pen hard to break the locking mechanism, then using the pen as usual. Two, using a separate syringe.

istrich · 01/05/2025 19:14

GustyBaloo · 01/05/2025 18:58

Which the OP agreed pages ago.

Agreed they were BU.

The rest is just going round in circles.

This ^

thank all but I acknowledge I was BU ages ago. I have learned from this thread and I have no regrets posting it. I’m happy to be wrong I take no issue with that. I am a ‘rule’ follower generally and tend to not deviate from that but I am always happy to learn.

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istrich · 01/05/2025 19:16

SilenceInside · 01/05/2025 19:14

@istrich surely you’ve realised by now there are two ways you can use the leftover liquid?!

One, by twisting the pen hard to break the locking mechanism, then using the pen as usual. Two, using a separate syringe.

Well you see I was told you can’t twist the pen, which is why I asked about it ages ago. In fact the people in here explaining it are mistily saying they use an insulin needle, so I’m not convinced you can use the pen at all, no

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SilenceInside · 01/05/2025 19:17

@istrich I have done both methods!

whitecushions · 01/05/2025 19:20

I don’t even extract it, I just force the pen to click another dose! Been on it for a year and no issues. Not sure why you’re bothered!

KateReddy · 01/05/2025 19:20

istrich · 01/05/2025 19:14

This ^

thank all but I acknowledge I was BU ages ago. I have learned from this thread and I have no regrets posting it. I’m happy to be wrong I take no issue with that. I am a ‘rule’ follower generally and tend to not deviate from that but I am always happy to learn.

In answer to your original question - YABU of course MN should not be policing discussion of pragmatic use of prescribed medication.

You are clearly misinformed and AIBU is not the best place for debate on a niche topic.

LolaLouise · 01/05/2025 19:24

istrich · 01/05/2025 19:16

Well you see I was told you can’t twist the pen, which is why I asked about it ages ago. In fact the people in here explaining it are mistily saying they use an insulin needle, so I’m not convinced you can use the pen at all, no

You can twist the pen. It doesnt always work. It "feels" less accurate. So, some/most people now as they changed the mechanism about 6 months ago, chose to draw it off with an insulin syringe.

Its really not that complicated.

Reliablesource · 01/05/2025 19:27

istrich · 01/05/2025 16:10

Because the prescription is 4 doses using the pen as directed not 5 doses, 4 as directed and one with a needle you bought online?

whatever you think about taking the extra you cannot deny the misuse element

You can actually get the 5th dose out by forcefully twisting the pen with a nutcracker or similar. And then just use the normal needles supplied. I wouldn’t risk it with needles bought from Amazon or somewhere.

I asked my pharmacist about the surplus medication in my first pen and he actually said that some people like to get a 5th dose out but he wouldn’t recommend it…

istrich · 01/05/2025 19:33

KateReddy · 01/05/2025 19:20

In answer to your original question - YABU of course MN should not be policing discussion of pragmatic use of prescribed medication.

You are clearly misinformed and AIBU is not the best place for debate on a niche topic.

You don’t need to quote me acknowledging o was BU to tell me I was BU, that’s a bit like sticking the boot in. On a post where I said I was happy to be wrong and have learned something too.

oh, and i don’t see much wrong with posting in AIBU - it’s been a decent enough length thread and a lot has been learned.

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WooleyMunky · 01/05/2025 19:34

istrich · 01/05/2025 16:03

I use the weight loss forums quite a lot and with the arrival of WLI they are busier than ever. But, it’s worrying the amount of people who are misusing their prescription and discussing with others how to do so. Should MNHQ take action here?

No.
People are adults capable of their own choices.
However stupid they are.

NerrSnerr · 01/05/2025 19:53

I’m glad the OP posted this is AIBU as it was something I was wondering after seeing people post about it. Good of the OP to admit she’s unreasonable too.

The thing that made me worry a bit was a poster saying they’re using longer needles and just ‘putting them in a bit’. Assuming they’re still sub cut needles but it did make me hope someone didn’t read that and take it literally and be trying to inject themselves with an IM needle.

WafflingDreamer · 01/05/2025 20:07

There is a lot of relaxed and at times seemingly dangerous behaviour surrounding weight loss injections that I don't believe you see with other prescription medication.

Lots of people muddle up their mg and mls or post saying they injected 0.75mls of the liquid with an insulin needle and don't know how much that is in mg.

People buying syringes from amazon that are not sold as for human use

I use the bonus dose but feel that it's a minimal risk as I'm trained to draw up and administer S/C medication

foreverblowingbubbless · 01/05/2025 20:17

GustyBaloo · 01/05/2025 18:54

I think it's the issue that, that last dose isn't part of your prescription. Therefore advice is being given on how to use a prescription drug that is against advice.

It's not a problem to me. I do it. Like I said though, if I started telling people how to use my 240mg codeine prescription differently, then it would be a different matter.

This is no different from ordering another pen and taking then first dose of that .

Rewis · 01/05/2025 20:29

istrich · 01/05/2025 16:40

Right, but not everyone is as able as you or I. I saw a poster once ask where you put the needle in to get the liquid out and it baffled me that after following instructions 4 times to use her pen that she didn’t cotton on she was putting a needle in to the pen and that’s how it came out. If she know she would have know where to put the needle for the extra. People who have less understanding are more likely to get it wrong.

I ubderstand that not everyone has the necessary critical thinking skills or the ability to understand instructions. But I still think it goes under personal responsibility. I don't see why it should be MNHQ problem to make sure the medical advice on a generic public forum is accurate.

GustyBaloo · 01/05/2025 21:02

foreverblowingbubbless · 01/05/2025 20:17

This is no different from ordering another pen and taking then first dose of that .

Of course it is the new pen has been prescribed for you to take the first dose from that pen.

TheBossOfMe · 01/05/2025 21:16

istrich · 01/05/2025 19:33

You don’t need to quote me acknowledging o was BU to tell me I was BU, that’s a bit like sticking the boot in. On a post where I said I was happy to be wrong and have learned something too.

oh, and i don’t see much wrong with posting in AIBU - it’s been a decent enough length thread and a lot has been learned.

i don’t think you understand much about how the prescription works.

istrich · 01/05/2025 21:30

TheBossOfMe · 01/05/2025 21:16

i don’t think you understand much about how the prescription works.

I have been prescribed it for 6 months so I’m not sure what it is you think I don’t understand

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foreverblowingbubbless · 01/05/2025 23:27

GustyBaloo · 01/05/2025 21:02

Of course it is the new pen has been prescribed for you to take the first dose from that pen.

II is not from a new pen - yes. BUT. The content and the dosage is exactly the same 🤷‍♀️