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To not be happy that my new work lanyard has “she/her” on it without me asking?

264 replies

TheNavyAnt · 29/04/2025 09:03

I’ve just started a new job and noticed that my staff lanyard/pass automatically has my name and “she/her” printed underneath it. Nobody asked if I wanted pronouns added - it was just assumed and put there by default.

I don’t have anything against people sharing pronouns if they want to, but personally, I wouldn’t have chosen to have it printed on my pass. It feels a bit forced, like I’m being made to take part in something I didn’t ask for and I’m not sure why it needs to be there at all unless I choose it.

AIBU to feel slightly uncomfortable about this? Or should I just let it go as one of those “modern workplace” things?

OP posts:
TroysMammy · 29/04/2025 13:37

I've managed 57 years without people stating they are a she/her, him/he, they/them or whatever they want to be. I have a first name and it can be used by anyone without them getting in knots about titles, surname or whether I have a vagina or penis.

bendmeoverbackwards · 29/04/2025 13:40

LittleBitofBread · 29/04/2025 12:30

Some people do have bollocks like 'she'/'they' 🙄

What the hell do they mean by that??

bendmeoverbackwards · 29/04/2025 13:41

Gretnaglebe · 29/04/2025 13:00

Tippex

Is that a new gender we haven’t heard about? 😂

WimbyAce · 29/04/2025 13:50

I would ask if it's compulsory and if it can be reprinted with no pronouns. I have seen it creeping into emails at work but no way will I be partaking.

Genevieva · 29/04/2025 13:52

xanthomelana · 29/04/2025 09:05

I feel the same, we had to add our pronouns to our signature on our work email. As you said it feels a bit forced and I don’t see what difference it makes having it there.

We were told to at one point. I never did. No one ever noticed. Or if they did they didn’t say anything.

Inthebitterend · 29/04/2025 13:53

I wish I had the energy to care about something so inconsequential to how I live my every day life. Getting so caught up in pronouns that seeing your own written down makes you "uncomfortable" is just bizarre to me.

Genevieva · 29/04/2025 13:54

TheNavyAnt · 29/04/2025 10:30

It’s on the actual pass

Go directly to the person who prints the pass and ask for a new one without the pronouns.

CandidRaven · 29/04/2025 13:54

I don't understand why it's needed, surely people just call you by your name not she or her? Seems like a pointless addition when a name is enough

Genevieva · 29/04/2025 13:55

Inthebitterend · 29/04/2025 13:53

I wish I had the energy to care about something so inconsequential to how I live my every day life. Getting so caught up in pronouns that seeing your own written down makes you "uncomfortable" is just bizarre to me.

It’s the imposition of transgender theory by the back door. I think we do need to stand up to it.

AspiringChatBot · 29/04/2025 14:01

There's plenty of evidence that women are placed at a systemic disadvantage to men when attention is called to their sex in the workplace. No one should be forced to have something on their work ID or gear that indicates their sex unless their job responsibilities make it necessary to differentiate or specify sex. The egalitarian and democratic best practice is to leave gendered pronouns and titles (Ms., Mr., Lady, Sir, etc.) off unless functionally necessary.

Throckmorton · 29/04/2025 14:02

Inthebitterend · 29/04/2025 13:53

I wish I had the energy to care about something so inconsequential to how I live my every day life. Getting so caught up in pronouns that seeing your own written down makes you "uncomfortable" is just bizarre to me.

I wish I had the naivete to think this was inconsequential

randoname · 29/04/2025 14:05

Ladybuglamp · 29/04/2025 09:51

Are you a she/her? If so, I don’t understand what the issue is?
It’s helpful for colleagues to know how you like to be referred to. No different from having your name printed on the badge.
I’m sure HR will remove it if you’re genuinely that bothered about people thinking you’re a woman.
I find it really helpful at work (There is a trans woman at my work and not to sound mean, but I would have just assumed she was a he/him if she didn’t have her pronouns in email sig - and I could have ended up really hurting her feelings)

You're describing a situation where you colluded with a lie.

TheCountofMountingCrispBags · 29/04/2025 14:06

ilovesooty · 29/04/2025 09:24

If everyone else has them and it's company policy I don't see what the big deal is. I certainly wouldn't be making waves in a new job. They should have confirmed them with you though not made assumptions.

If it'ß company policy then it should be mentioned on application forms and at interview.
I wouldn't even consider working for anyone that forced such nonsense upon their employees.
My pronouns are me/fucking mad at the world and its nonsense

TheCountofMountingCrispBags · 29/04/2025 14:08

Ladybuglamp · 29/04/2025 09:51

Are you a she/her? If so, I don’t understand what the issue is?
It’s helpful for colleagues to know how you like to be referred to. No different from having your name printed on the badge.
I’m sure HR will remove it if you’re genuinely that bothered about people thinking you’re a woman.
I find it really helpful at work (There is a trans woman at my work and not to sound mean, but I would have just assumed she was a he/him if she didn’t have her pronouns in email sig - and I could have ended up really hurting her feelings)

How blind you are not to see the issue.

Whooowhooohoo · 29/04/2025 14:10

Fact that no one asked your preferred is an offensive double standard.

put some white tape over it.

If asked … say: no one asked me my preferred pronouns. Assumptions have been made which are deeply offensive.

You are 100% correct to say “I have no preferred pronouns”

beesandstrawberries · 29/04/2025 14:13

I’m only 28 but this entire ‘woke’ young generation is weird. People should be entitled to do what THEY want to do and who THEY want to be. But forcing other people to partake in their woke bs is exhausting and unwanted.

its like their new thing is calling biological women ‘cis women’. we say we JUST want to be called women, no cis and they kick off saying it’s factual. So our wishes of how we want to be addressed is not listened to, but god forbid you mis gender or choose not to respect that ‘groups’ wishes. It’s horrible

crockofshite · 29/04/2025 14:43

scrape it off, cover it or use a different lanyard.

don't pander to this bullshit.

Jumpingthruhoops · 29/04/2025 15:05

You're talking nonsense!

So because a company makes a sudden change for ideological reasons, everyone just has to suck it up? Er no, life doesn't work like that I'm afraid.

I have been at my company for nearly 20 years, so pretty confident I'm already a 'good fit', thanks. If they insisting on displaying pronouns I would push back on it. As would many others I suspect.

ThatsNotMyTeen · 29/04/2025 19:26

Ladybuglamp · 29/04/2025 09:51

Are you a she/her? If so, I don’t understand what the issue is?
It’s helpful for colleagues to know how you like to be referred to. No different from having your name printed on the badge.
I’m sure HR will remove it if you’re genuinely that bothered about people thinking you’re a woman.
I find it really helpful at work (There is a trans woman at my work and not to sound mean, but I would have just assumed she was a he/him if she didn’t have her pronouns in email sig - and I could have ended up really hurting her feelings)

Well at least if he had hurt feelings, we now know he can have a good cry in the gents

Ereshkigalangcleg · 30/04/2025 10:26

AspiringChatBot · 29/04/2025 14:01

There's plenty of evidence that women are placed at a systemic disadvantage to men when attention is called to their sex in the workplace. No one should be forced to have something on their work ID or gear that indicates their sex unless their job responsibilities make it necessary to differentiate or specify sex. The egalitarian and democratic best practice is to leave gendered pronouns and titles (Ms., Mr., Lady, Sir, etc.) off unless functionally necessary.

This is a point you should consider if you challenge OP. There’s a phenomenon called “stereotype threat”.

https://4w.pub/identity-crisis-pronouns/amp/

Identity Crisis: "What Are Your Pronouns?"

How to answer the dreaded question and exert your boundaries

https://4w.pub/identity-crisis-pronouns/amp/

Flightfromhell · 30/04/2025 10:33

Inthebitterend · 29/04/2025 13:53

I wish I had the energy to care about something so inconsequential to how I live my every day life. Getting so caught up in pronouns that seeing your own written down makes you "uncomfortable" is just bizarre to me.

But you have the energy to care enough to post on this thread?

VickyEadieofThigh · 30/04/2025 10:39

Darkgreendarkbark · 29/04/2025 12:04

I think people massively underestimate how often we use pronouns about other people in their hearing, or in written communications that they will see. I work with some they/thems, and nobody ever remembers to call them that. I very often hear "he" and "she" about these people, including times when they are present. Hilariously, it's often people who have pronouns in their own signatures who forget. I'm hyper conscious of it because I think it's all bollocks, so when I'm around the they/thems, I'm hyper aware of avoiding pronouns entirely.

I was recently corrected in a meeting when referring to a new colleague (whom I've never met) as "he", that "Jonathan identifies as he/him". I merely did a Paddington stare whilst tumbleweed rolled across the floor (I should add that I'm in a voluntary role but these were paid employees).

Imagine my joy at the next meeting when the woman who'd corrected me used "he" of Jonathan.

Anyotherdude · 30/04/2025 10:48

HufflebuffsAreOn · 29/04/2025 09:11

Agree. But for the vast majority of us they are not chosen pronouns. They are just pronouns that go with the sex we are. We need to change the language around this.

I want people to be able to determine my pronouns for themself, without this additional layer of woke protocol!
I really don’t mind my colleagues in India addressing me as “Mr Firstname” and I don’t correct them when they do (I’m female and married, so a Mrs)
I’ve used an affectionate address for my pronoun in Outlook - nobody has complained about “Darling” so far!

AnSolas · 30/04/2025 11:13

VickyEadieofThigh · 30/04/2025 10:39

I was recently corrected in a meeting when referring to a new colleague (whom I've never met) as "he", that "Jonathan identifies as he/him". I merely did a Paddington stare whilst tumbleweed rolled across the floor (I should add that I'm in a voluntary role but these were paid employees).

Imagine my joy at the next meeting when the woman who'd corrected me used "he" of Jonathan.

Sorry what?
she expected you to add in a him to each he?

You : Jonathan is looking after that he has said he will deliver the report tomorrow.

Her you should have said : Jonathan is looking after that he/him has said he/him will deliver the report tomorrow.

NoBinturongsHereMate · 30/04/2025 17:50

He is correct for a he/him. It's setting out parts of grammar (entirely unnecessarily, unless it's neopronouns, but that beside the point) and you use whichever is correct in the sentence, not both every time. 'He's leading the project, so update him when you're done.'

He/they is a different matter - then you're expected by some people to use both and alternate, and by others to use either but they don't mind which.

So the person who corrected you is completely wrong.