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Heard a rumour about long term partner [Content warning added by MNHQ: concerns rape]

234 replies

BM1987 · 27/04/2025 09:28

I have been with my partner for 5 years we have children together. It all happened really fast but we make the best of it. His family is very full of drama but it never involves DP so I just listen and move on. He is 40 - I am late 30s same as the women below.

Last night we were out and a women came up to me and told me that 20 years ago my DP forced himself on her pushed her head down and had sex with her. She then said it was rape but she has moved on now. And that he has been accused around 3 times but no one has take this to the police. I was obviously speechless. She then said there was a rumour he had sex with his sister! By this point I am processing alot.

I dont know whether to ask my DP about this or find out more information or just keep it locked up in his past.

Any advice on how to deal with this?

OP posts:
RedHelenB · 27/04/2025 11:43

CoffeeCakeAndALattePlease · 27/04/2025 09:44

Honestly, if you believe her does it matter if he’s changed or not?!
I could never be with a rapist, even if he’s “changed”.

This. He sounds violent. No inclination in all the time you've been with him of any violence whatsoever?

category12 · 27/04/2025 11:43

YesterdaywasTuesday · 27/04/2025 11:42

You don't know if what she said was true - the point about incest is very extreme, and if it was the case, how would she know? This could be one of the very rare cases where the woman is making it up.

I think you need to talk to your DP, put a Claire's law request in, and if you're close to any of the other women in the group, ask her about the woman who made the allegations.

I wouldn't explode my life right away based on something someone said in a pub.

OP has said he has also raped her.

Maray1967 · 27/04/2025 11:46

BM1987 · 27/04/2025 10:58

When I was pregnant he forced hinself on me. I said no. He carried on. I told him this was not right he raped me and I didnt speak to him again until after our child was born. He never done anything since to me similer.

So you know what he is like. I don’t see why you need confirmation from any other woman or from the police. What he did to you tells you all you need to know. It doesn’t matter than he hasn’t done it since. Once is enough.

RedHelenB · 27/04/2025 11:46

Just seen your post, so you believe her because he raped you too OP. I think you need to leave, no ifs no buts , and if you feel strong enough report to the police.

MILLYmo0se · 27/04/2025 11:50

He raped you so stands to reason her raped her and others.
Very understandable that you are struggling to fix the words 'my partner, my child's father, is a sexual predator and a rapist', but you know he is. You need professional help in coming to terms with what he has done to you and in getting away from him

SaladSandwichesForTea · 27/04/2025 11:52

BM1987 · 27/04/2025 11:03

Good idea. I will message her in the week and see if she will meet up

Why? What's the point? He raped you, they all you really need to know. Why would her rape matter more? Why put her through a grilling?

You don't need her to prove anything to you because he has done it to you too.

Gemmawemma9 · 27/04/2025 11:54

tortieCatLover · 27/04/2025 11:13

This.

I watched my parents belive ananonymous stranger phoning with alligations rather than my brother. My brother was no saint and was doing other bad things but those allegations weren't really credible but fitted with parents lack of trust in him- turns out the were complete nonsense obvious to me but caused a further breakdown in the relationship much to saintfaction of individual behind calls which came out much later.

We've had it with professionals usual MN why would they lie - no clue at time but asking questions when things didn't add up lead to proof of lies and consequences - once you find a lie it tends to lead to a lack of crediblity going forward.

For some reaons the OP has judged the friends parenter as more credible than her DP - and frankly that's not a sign of a good relationship and does suggest more is wrong.

Not sure confronting DP will do anything guilty or innocent he'lll deny but I think long term this relationship is really in trouble.

Have you both read all of the OPs posts?
He raped her when she was pregnant.
She has EVERY reason to believe this poor woman. The OP is a victim herself.

OP no rapists don’t change. Please leave him and please report it to the police. You don’t even have to pursue a conviction but it will show up in future if any other partners do a Clare’s law request.

JustSawJohnny · 27/04/2025 11:55

BM1987 · 27/04/2025 10:58

When I was pregnant he forced hinself on me. I said no. He carried on. I told him this was not right he raped me and I didnt speak to him again until after our child was born. He never done anything since to me similer.

So you do KNOW he's a rapist.

It's genuinely sad that you have still come here, after knowing what he is capable of and hearing he has done it to other women, asking if he 'can change'.

You are raising kids with a rapist.

You need to let that sink in, get a backbone and get yourself and your kids as far away from this 'man' as possible.

People now know that you know and will absolutely judge you for staying with him. Even worse, you will internally judge yourself.

HE RAPED YOU WHILE YOU WERE PREGNANT!! Do you see how bad this is, OP? Because WE all see it very clearly!

I'm sorry if I'm being forceful, but you need shaking out of the thick fog of denial you've been living in for seemingly years.

He will not change. He is what he is. He should be in prison.

FarmGirl78 · 27/04/2025 11:59

KitsyWitsy · 27/04/2025 09:42

How awful. Find out his side but I wouldn't be surprised if it was both true and there was no record of it by the police. There are several men that assaulted and raped me when I was younger, just walking about living their lives. I never bothered reporting anything. They just get away with it don't they? For me, the price of reporting it was too high and no payoff.

The pay off would have been that in future other women would have been able to see your accusations when they do Clare's law checks.

Outrageistheopiateofthemasses · 27/04/2025 12:02

Dear Lord? Why on earth do you need Clare's Law. You know for a fact that he is a rapist. He raped you! While you were pregnant!

It sounds like it is not too late for you to contact the police about your own rape.

Of course the other woman is also telling the truth.

If not for your own benefit, for your children, you should leave.

And please, don't have any more children with a serial rapist. That is what he is.

Stravaig · 27/04/2025 12:03

So 'had sex with his sister' could mean 'raped his sister' - which would explain his family being 'very full of drama'.

When he raped you, was it your first or subsequent pregnancy? It's a huge thing to bury and continue as before. No wonder this revelation has stopped you in your tracks.

I think you know what the truth is. Can you talk to someone in real life, or contact one of the women's support services?

BM1987 · 27/04/2025 12:05

OoooopsUpsideYourHead · 27/04/2025 11:14

I didnt speak to him again until after our child was born.

The first or the second child?

The first. And then we agreed to move on and really try to make a good relationship. Its has been ok no real drama or fall outs. Another child.

Then this

OP posts:
MissScarletInTheBallroom · 27/04/2025 12:07

BM1987 · 27/04/2025 10:58

When I was pregnant he forced hinself on me. I said no. He carried on. I told him this was not right he raped me and I didnt speak to him again until after our child was born. He never done anything since to me similer.

Well then I think you have a good reason to believe this woman, don't you?

I'm so sorry.

PinkyFlamingo · 27/04/2025 12:08

BM1987 · 27/04/2025 12:05

The first. And then we agreed to move on and really try to make a good relationship. Its has been ok no real drama or fall outs. Another child.

Then this

I would question what has happened to you in the past that you have stayed with a man who raped you And then went on to have another child with him

BM1987 · 27/04/2025 12:09

butterpuffed · 27/04/2025 11:20

If your DP's friend's partner knew about the sister , she must have been told by the partner so it's common knowledge, as the family obviously know too .

I'm not sure if that's true , but the other information she gave you, re other women, plus your own experience , can't just be left . You need to find out more from the partner of DP's friend.

I am good friends with her partner. He has never mentioned anything to me about him like this. But she said he is aware of what he did to her. Yet DP and her partner are close friends from childhood!

This is what i dont understand.

I wouldnt see her as a source of support at this point. Her story adds up but the behaviour around it doesnt.

Her and my DP were talking normal as though they are friends etc. Its a head fuck

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itsgettingweird · 27/04/2025 12:09

You believe her.

So you can’t stay with him whatever.

VickiFromAmsterdam · 27/04/2025 12:11

You could go to the Police yourself, & ask the woman who told you this to do the same. That way it won’t just be your or her word against his. This often happens, CPS wont take a case to court unless there’s a 60% chance of conviction. Also people for whatever reason don’t report these things, although the person who raped them has more than likely done it before. The longer time goes on the angrier a person can get, knowing that the rapist’s got away with it. Ring Women’s Aid, they’ll support you every step of the way. Good Luck OP!

BM1987 · 27/04/2025 12:11

category12 · 27/04/2025 11:35

Make sure you're on foolproof contraception while you decide your next steps.

You really don't want to be in a situation of having a little girl to worry about, whether he's present in the home or if you split. (I hope you find the strength to end the relationship.)

I think you should speak to Rape Crisis and get some support.

You could also consider reporting the rape.

Sterilised 🙏🏻

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BM1987 · 27/04/2025 12:13

PinkyFlamingo · 27/04/2025 12:08

I would question what has happened to you in the past that you have stayed with a man who raped you And then went on to have another child with him

I have a had a bad few years. Very stressful and intense work role. Not had chance to process my home life. I have my own company.

I also have anxiety and othe MH problems which i think has damged my relationships with men because well you know the script

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daisychain01 · 27/04/2025 12:16

BM1987 · 27/04/2025 09:40

Its worse its someone we know. A friends partner.

I'd want to understand

How come the friend's partner didn't say anything for the 5 years of your relationship and after you'd had children together, Talk about shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted.

and

If the friend's partner knew, what about the friend, what did they know as your friend? They've not covered themselves in glory withholding that sort of information from you. They could have warned you much sooner and prevented you from having made a commitment to have children by a rapist.

IcySnowy · 27/04/2025 12:16

I am very concerned about the safety of the children living in that household.

Cherryicecreamx · 27/04/2025 12:17

Definitely do a Clare's Law - but of course this only shows things that have been reported to the police and lots of times things like this do go unreported. If she says she isn't the only one then perhaps others have logged it.

I heard something about my ex, what I got told didn't come up but I was shocked what did.. so if he is that type of person they might have already have other stuff on him even of a similar nature.

Stravaig · 27/04/2025 12:20

BM1987 · 27/04/2025 12:05

The first. And then we agreed to move on and really try to make a good relationship. Its has been ok no real drama or fall outs. Another child.

Then this

The thing is, rape isn't an annoying domestic habit you can just put your foot down about and carry on as before, as if it were leaving the toilet seat up, or drinking milk straight from the bottle.

Rape is a fundamental violation and a criminal offense.

That he hasn't raped you since, including in later pregnancies, makes me slightly more reassured about your immediate safety, however there are still no ongoing guarantees. You are at risk.

I suspect other boundaries in your relationship are very skewed and you just don't realise.

Also - he may be getting his rapey kicks outside the home.

Is he really a suitable father for any children, whether boys or girls?

MolkosTeenageAngst · 27/04/2025 12:23

BM1987 · 27/04/2025 12:09

I am good friends with her partner. He has never mentioned anything to me about him like this. But she said he is aware of what he did to her. Yet DP and her partner are close friends from childhood!

This is what i dont understand.

I wouldnt see her as a source of support at this point. Her story adds up but the behaviour around it doesnt.

Her and my DP were talking normal as though they are friends etc. Its a head fuck

He raped you when you were pregnant with your first child and you stayed with him and went on to have a second child with him. Surely that’s even more confusing than the fact that he raped her and she has stayed friends with him? From your own experience you must understand it is possible to minimise what happened after being sexually assaulted, to convince yourself it wasn’t that bad or that it was your fault or that he didn’t mean it and to then push it out of your mind for a long time and try to forget about it. It sounds like that’s what you did and you haven’t thought about it until she’s brought it up, I expect that’s what she’s done and maybe she’s only thinking of this now because another friend said he did it to her too.

Hes done this to four women, including you. I don’t believe rapists can change and certainly not serial rapists. If he thought what he did was wrong he wouldn’t have done it more than once, He’s probably minimised and justified his own behaviour and doesn’t even think he’s done anything wrong so it will just be a matter of time before he rapes again.

I’m sorry this happened to you, I hope you find the strength to leave him and that yourself and the other woman find the strength between you to report him so that he hopefully doesn’t get an opportunity to do this to any other women in the future.

Differentforgirls · 27/04/2025 12:25

Hastentoadd · 27/04/2025 11:18

Anyone on this forum can ask any questions that they like!?!?!

It doesn’t matter whether YOU think they are suitable or not !!!

You must admit that it was an outrageous question to ask about a rapist?