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To feel lied to about the menopause

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Someonelookedatmypostinghistorysoichanged · 26/04/2025 17:47

I’m struggling hideously, cry at the drop of a hat and want to scream with frustration.

Why does no one tell you this.

I remember clear as day being told at school that one day when you’re about 50 your periods will stop. Fantastic I thought one day this hell of monthly inconvenience will cease. And cease it did, brilliant. But then. The past three years have been the worse years of my life.

I tried HRT and it didn’t seem to help, it made me irritable and experience anxiety that was difficult for me to cope with. That was a year ago. I’m now in the same place. Someone please tell me it gets better.

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YouLookNiceJackie · 29/04/2025 08:28

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Missj25 · 29/04/2025 09:07

Thepeopleversuswork · 26/04/2025 17:57

YANBU. The menopause has been one of the great taboos. Mainly because it’s an issue which affects women and particularly older women who are treated largely as invisible and irrelevant by our society. I haven’t had a particularly difficult menopause by comparison to many but I am also struck that women have managed something that until recently was not spoken about at all.

Anecdotally I think it does get better and many women seem to have a new lease of life when they come through it (I am not there yet but I’m told this).

FWIW my two silver bullet recommendations (apart from HRT which you have said doesn’t work) are;

  • avoiding alcohol. Drinking even moderately makes it a million times worse
  • exercise. I couldn’t manage menopause without running. It has saved my sanity

Hey , I have to disagree with you there , I don’t feel older women are treated as invisible or irrelevant by society....🤷🏻‍♀️..

With regard to exercise & not drinking, I 💯 agree with you ..

I don’t find hrt helpful at all OP , I still wear those patches though ..
The anxiety, down & out feeling that comes with menopause, ( well I’m peri ) is just 😔…
I do find getting out & about , even work , great help , lifts mood ..
See your GP again & discuss how you are feeling..
I hope things start to improve for you soon .. x

Missj25 · 29/04/2025 09:13

ilovebagpuss · 26/04/2025 18:29

I think if you get the HRT dose right and stick with it, life can really become comfortable again.
I had HRT when the low moods and poor sleep became unbearable and it really put me back on my feet.
I've carried on and upped the dose as and when needed and it's fine day to day now.
It is crap though the lack of clear information. I suffered for about 3 years not realising I was in Peri Menopause and couldn't sleep my hip was killing me, bought a special pillow, feet were killing me etc, then as soon as I got HRT all that went away!
I couldn't believe how painful my hip had been and then nothing!

Are you on the patches pp ?
They increased mine from 50 to 70 , change twice a week , I don’t feel any difference though ..

thebluerose · 29/04/2025 09:21

I don’t feel older women are treated as invisible or irrelevant by society

Give it time.

tempname1234 · 29/04/2025 10:59

YNBU for feeling this way but please, for years now there has been menopause awareness days, training at offices on how to support women going through peri and menopause. There are whole regimes of hair and skin care, supplements, PT. Pilates and yoga geared towards menopausal women. It is thankfully being discussed A LOT. I presume just not in your circle.

be an advocate for other women. If you found it difficult because no one told you, make a point to tell others.

by the way, it goes on for years and years. Symptoms change. Come and go. New things crop up. But getting help to cope as well as opening up your scope to find help with greatly improve your life. You’re not alone but not all women are as impacted as others. Just be wary of those who have not been impacted as they may lack empathy

if you look for menopause sisters, other women experiencing or have experienced the same thing, you will find them

pollymere · 29/04/2025 11:50

I'm rapidly heading towards 50... I know my Mum had hers late with horrendously painful heavy periods and depression. She wasn't allowed HRT for medical reasons apparently.

I'm starting to get horrendously heavy periods but I'm seriously dreading all the other symptoms that clearly my Mum never mentioned...

IsThistheMiddleofNowhere · 29/04/2025 12:15

I don't think you were lied to about the menopause. Everyone has a different experience and It might just be you haven't met anyone who had awful symptoms. I had no symptoms at all apart from the odd hot flush which was quite nice in the winter but I have a work colleague who had terrible brain fog and couldn't remember how to reverse her car. There is certainly more awareness now about how debilitating menopause can be and workplaces are encouraged to be supportive and have a menopause policy in place, so its definitely being talked about more. It could be worth googling what support you can find. Sorry you are having it so bad but it will eventually pass.

SpookyMcTaggart · 29/04/2025 12:54

TheCountofMountingCrispBags · 26/04/2025 19:46

Because that's what it is.
What flowery/let's not use real words language would you use?

Some people have a stronger reaction to words than others. I remember when a nurse told me I had vaginal atrophy I was shocked, it sounded awful. 'Vaginal thinning' or similar might be less brutal.
Anyway, estriol cream sorts it out quite quickly. Perimenopausal and menopausal women should be offered estriol cream as a matter of course.

MILLYmo0se · 29/04/2025 13:15

thebluerose · 27/04/2025 10:32

I wrote 25% sailing through, actually, that's not "most people" - but if you add the 25% sailing through to the 50% got through it ok crowd, that is 75% for whom the menopause is not a horror story.

I think that is important for younger women who are frightened by all they are hearing in the media to know.

Oh, and I didn't get those figures from "a quick google search", by the way.

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Tbh if I took 100 women ten years post menopause and gave them the list of menopause related symptoms I'd be surprised if 75 of them said they had none of them bar periods ending or one symptom that didn't really affect their quality of life at any time.
I wonder what those stats are based on, is it women seeking help/hrt? Because so many - or their GPS - don't realise things like tinnitus or anxiety around driving is linked

herbetta · 29/04/2025 13:58

Tiddlywinkly · 27/04/2025 06:45

I knew vaguely about the menopause happening around 50 with a few hot flushes and your periods stopping and thought great, ok. My mum remembers it as such, but I might need to chat to my dad as he says it was hellish time.

However, I had NO CLUE there was this thing called perimenopause that can start as early as your mid 30s and last for YEARS!!

Since 38 my energy has nose dived, I'm putting on weight for the first time in my adult life dispite being very active, my sleep is crap, my hair is thinning and my social anxiety has increased. All this, but regular periods. Yey.

Are these symptoms something that might be treatable with HRT? I'm approaching 42. Would it even be prescribed given my age?

Yes & Yes. Your symptoms sound exactly like the right kind & timing also.

If your GP is unsupportive, consider the Newson Clinic - meanwhile use their brilliant Balance App / Website to learn as much as you can. Massive library on there & brilliant evidence'based podcasts.

As the years go by & if your symptoms return or exacerbate, you'll probably need to increase your doseage.

RosesAndHellebores · 29/04/2025 14:11

If I may say, my mother had a very well communicated peri/menopause. It was a huge factor in her life for 10 years and every conversation revolved around the symptoms and their impact.

Similarly when she had back pain, every diagnostic factor was harnessed with pain clinics, etc.

A spot on her ear had to be investigated.

She is very old now and there has been hysteria over a bcc on her nose and Mohe's procedure and the impact on her looks. She is 88 now and despite a lot of stitches and bruising you wouldn't know it, three weeks later.

I think it indicates that some people respond badly to relatively mi or things; others barely at all to relatively major things.

The impact on me was that I vowed never to discuss my menopause. My mother doesn't know I've had a couple of BCC's removed and that I have severe osteoporosis and pagets disease and have two collapsed vertebrae.

lljkk · 30/04/2025 10:57

Oh dear Roses, that all sounds tough.

My poor dad (age now early 80s) loathes aging & often complains about it. He has made me resolve to age gracefully & expect issues & that's ok. Most of all I'm not going to repeatedly complain, be despondent or surprised or fret (I hope not, anyway!) It's the "surprised" tone that makes me almost laugh. Like..."you knew that aging means increasing restrictions in what you can do & having to take responsibility for that, right?" He will not adopt an "Alert somebody" system like a necklace or something where he could press a button to call for help if he fell over. This is frustrating. He has had some bad falls where he couldn't get up, and a history of stroke, and sometimes is home alone.

Although I will say he is taking news of a new diagnosis (some degree of prostate cancer) very well, very pragmatically.

I'm on pretty good terms with my ex-Husband. Every time xH announces a symptom development in his health that I also have, I presume I can cross that off the "caused by menopause" list. Given he's a biological male.

there isn't much left to attribute to menopause, lol.

Mum2EmLuJa · 30/04/2025 17:15

wizzywig · 26/04/2025 19:14

Really? I find all I am constantly told and there is so much info on how awful the menopause is and that my life will be over. I'll have hot flushes, bad skin, become unemployed and unemployable, no sex life, will scream and shout at people. Menopause info is everywhere and it's all bad

same, I am 41 and not yet in it but completely terrified beyond belief due to everything I see/hear about it

TheignT · 30/04/2025 18:48

Mum2EmLuJa · 30/04/2025 17:15

same, I am 41 and not yet in it but completely terrified beyond belief due to everything I see/hear about it

Please don't be terrified. It is good to know what could happen which ranges from all those negative things to a bit of discomfort for a time to a fantastic change in your life. I do hope you have a positive experience because it really is possible and it has happened to some of us.

Someonelookedatmypostinghistorysoichanged · 01/05/2025 19:04

Calliopespa · 26/04/2025 18:15

Can I please clarify: are you in peri or menopause? I have caught up with the idea that peri is tough while the hormones fluctuate but thought it settled thereafter?

I’m past peri I believe no periods for about 3 years??

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Someonelookedatmypostinghistorysoichanged · 01/05/2025 19:10

Thisshirtisonfire · 26/04/2025 18:21

Yes. I've struggled with PMD and PND and even a negative reaction to the hormones associated with breastfeeding. I went crazy on the pill and can't have hormonal contraception...
So when I was younger I always dreamt of the idyllic time in later life I'd have without pregnancy and periods..

What a let down.
Beginning peri now and I'm absolutely a mess. And I know full well this could be going on 20 years..
As my mum casually mentioned she was still struggling approaching 60!!! And I'm only late 30s now..

I’m so sorry that is difficult when so young also

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Someonelookedatmypostinghistorysoichanged · 01/05/2025 19:11

Crikeyalmighty · 28/04/2025 22:56

I had absolutely chronic itching down below to the extent I made myself bleed with scratching for around 16 months when menopause kicked in - I didn’t remember reading about that anywhere - mentioned it on here and loads of women said ‘same for me’ - mind you I had some bloods taken about a year ago at 62 and it seems Ive still got around 1/3 of normal levels of oestrogen and progesterone which GP said was pretty good as I never took HRT . I actually had 2 horrid years and then almost overnight all the really irritating symptoms stopped although I did suddenly get dry sore eyes easily

omg this is sounding familiar and so so embarrassing 😳!!!! Did you find anything that helped ?

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Someonelookedatmypostinghistorysoichanged · 01/05/2025 19:20

Missj25 · 29/04/2025 09:13

Are you on the patches pp ?
They increased mine from 50 to 70 , change twice a week , I don’t feel any difference though ..

No not in anything was taking gel and pills but honestly my anxiety was unbearable ! Has anyone else found this ?

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Battyfumworts · 01/05/2025 19:26

Someonelookedatmypostinghistorysoichanged · 01/05/2025 19:20

No not in anything was taking gel and pills but honestly my anxiety was unbearable ! Has anyone else found this ?

Quite likely you need to alter your dose. I didn’t realise I was in peri for years before I had my hysterectomy for cancer. My anxiety was horrific, absolutely crippling, I had my surgery and have to have HRT due to my age, but my anxiety is gone. It was definitely worse with fluctuating hormones

Hastentoadd · 01/05/2025 20:25

Battyfumworts · 01/05/2025 19:26

Quite likely you need to alter your dose. I didn’t realise I was in peri for years before I had my hysterectomy for cancer. My anxiety was horrific, absolutely crippling, I had my surgery and have to have HRT due to my age, but my anxiety is gone. It was definitely worse with fluctuating hormones

It’s great to hear that in some people the anxiety, I’m planning on going on HRT soon and really hope it works for me, you hear such mixed reviews on it

Missj25 · 01/05/2025 21:26

Someonelookedatmypostinghistorysoichanged · 01/05/2025 19:20

No not in anything was taking gel and pills but honestly my anxiety was unbearable ! Has anyone else found this ?

Hey , yeah , me too …
I find exercise & going to work help ..
Bright eves make a difference to me aswel , I’m worse in the winter ..
It’s manageable now , more times then it’s the pitts 🙁

ssd · 01/05/2025 22:10

For me its health anxiety, but I've never put it down to hormones before

Asmanydogsaschildren · 01/05/2025 22:16

I’m on HRT, I’m also on the mini pill for period control, although I don’t know if they’ve stopped as I’ve been on it for years and I’m 45.

I’m also on an anti depressant and I asked to come off it as I felt so good once the HRT kicked in. However I’ve been lowering the dose with GP oversight and I definitely still need it so have stayed on but at a reduced dose.

Nobody tells you but it lasts years and can be up to a decade or longer for some.

I’ve started to take various supplements too to see if they help. Although tbf since turning 40 my health has nosedived and I’ve developed several autoimmune conditions.

thebluerose · 02/05/2025 00:29

Someonelookedatmypostinghistorysoichanged · 01/05/2025 19:11

omg this is sounding familiar and so so embarrassing 😳!!!! Did you find anything that helped ?

Are you using Ovestin cream there? It's been mentioned multiple times on this thread. There are plenty of threads on the Menopause board discussing it, also, if you have any questions about its use.

Someonelookedatmypostinghistorysoichanged · 02/05/2025 07:39

VickyEadieofThigh · 26/04/2025 18:47

I think the OP means that it's kept a massive secret that the vast majority of us never find out about until we experience it. I've been saying this for the 14 years since I hit menopause.

Yes exactly! I feel the lie is that whole generations are told that your period simple stops ! What a lie! No one told me it would be this way. And as for increased awareness, yes there is more awareness but again, the problem is this also is a lie. Taking HRT is not a fix for all women, damn it stop saying take HRT and you will be ok again !

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