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He no longer wants kids

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Lizzielost · 23/04/2025 08:19

I’m a bit lost here so was hoping for some opinions on my current position please.

I’m 41 and have been with my partner, 39, for 8 years (1 engaged). We are currently renovating our first home together and I love him to bits. He is the only person who has ever completely understood me and he has helped me to grow so much while we’ve been together. I’ve also supported him and helped him to grow into someone who is more secure and aware of his own value. He is a kind person and thinks of me a lot.

From the very start, we both wanted children. We’ve had so many conversations about it that it was never really considered to be an issue, until last year. My partner has been through some difficult times over the last 2-3 years (including the loss of a parent and an increase in narcissistic behaviour from the remaining parent as well as significant work stress) and he has been in a very dark place at times. Now that we are finally in a position where we have some security to try for a child (as my age is already against me somewhat) he has decided that he no longer wants a child.

He didn’t tell me outright for some time. It’s been a topic of conversation for 16 months and he only admitted it at the end of last year. His response has always been either just a quiet grunt, ‘ok’ or no response at all with a look akin to a deer caught in the headlights. In the meantime I have to mix with his friends and all of their children and he doesn’t seem to see how difficult that is for me.

I had a coil which I was struggling with (pain, heavy periods etc) and he suggested getting it removed about 2.5 years ago and trying for a baby then. By the time I’d managed to have it removed 4 months later though, he’d changed his mind and I went on the pill. It doesn’t agree with me (moods, loss of desire etc) and this also seems to have caused some issues between us, even though there is little I can do to change that without coming off the pill.

We talk about it but I usually end up upset and, to try to pacify me, he says that we can try. I know he is only saying that and doesn’t mean it though so I ask him to speak about it the following day, when things have calmed, and he doesn’t. This has happened at least 10 times now and it is hurting.

If he had told me properly about his change of heart then I would not have bought the house with him. Really, I had little idea of how things had changed with him.

Over the last few days things seem to have come to a head. I just can’t cope with him almost playing games now and, after being upset a couple of nights ago and sleeping on the couch, I’ve told him that we can’t continue and that we need to split before I hate him for this. The situation is difficult, with the house renovation, and we’ll probably end up having to keep going with this for a bit until we can sell it and move on.

My head is telling me I’m overreacting and that I can’t leave him as he is everything to me. I just can’t keep being dragged down by this baby thing as it is taking over my
life and I’m beginning to hate him for it. It is, to me, a point of fundamental incompatibility and I feel betrayed. My mind is reeling - do we go for counselling to see if we can deal with this? Is it dead in the water now, even with the love on both sides? I can’t see up for down at the minute and I don’t know whether I’m talking myself round, only to be stuck again. I probably won’t go on to have children anyway if we split. I’m quite shy and finding someone new to trust in that way probably won’t be doable in time for me to try for a child. I just don’t know what to do at the moment. Has anyone got any thoughts on this please?

OP posts:
Alip1965 · 25/04/2025 12:04

Withoutfearorfavour · 25/04/2025 12:00

There’s nothing funny about it is there ?

Nope but she gets what she wants. And he can shit off

Withoutfearorfavour · 25/04/2025 12:06

Alip1965 · 25/04/2025 12:03

Yep so long as she has what she wants. Let him go.

Wow. And what if he doesn’t ship OFF what if he goes for 50-50 custody?
Lots to consider.
These things in my experience never turn out how you expect they will whatever you think will happen. It’s always the opposite.

Withoutfearorfavour · 25/04/2025 12:08

Without going into too much personal detail in both mine and my cousins case what happens is they wait for you to do all the heavy lifting, pay for all the after-school care, the Nursery, the staying off when the child sick so that you’ve got tatters of your career left by the time they get to high school and then they pop back up.

pollymere · 25/04/2025 12:28

I think he said he didn't want kids when you stopped using the coil and you hoped it was circumstantial. Unfortunately anyone who wants to wait when you're getting close to forty is pretty much a "doesn't want kids" person. At least, not with you, sorry.

Steph4ne · 25/04/2025 13:09

Noononoo · 25/04/2025 08:59

Come off the pill, see if you get pregnant, if you do (if you’re Lucky ) you can bet your bottom dollar he’ll be too. This is so common. I never asked my husband if I could get pregnant! He won’t leave you because you are pregnant he is just wary of taking responsibility, If he did then leave you or act like an arsehole.. then he’s not worth your love. Stop pissing around and stop taking the pill if you want a baby. There are no guarantees. No money backs. its a massive leap. You’re both scared which is fine. Don’t have children. You want a baby .. try … good luck …it’s on you not him. Don’t look to him for permission. Of course it’s not your ideal. Few things are. Be brave.

No guarantee he won’t leave you when you’re pregnant… mine did!!

Steph4ne · 25/04/2025 13:24

XelaM · 25/04/2025 11:31

I mean my ex-husband did just that 😂 as do many many men!

Preach

Lostcat · 25/04/2025 20:30

KimberleyClark · 25/04/2025 09:10

Terrible advice. Like a man saying to another man “look mate, just slip your condom off. All women want babies deep down and once she actually gets pregnant she’ll be over the moon”.

Not the same .

Withoutfearorfavour · 26/04/2025 11:46

Lostcat · 25/04/2025 20:30

Not the same .

Its absolutely the same.

Lostcat · 26/04/2025 18:00

Withoutfearorfavour · 26/04/2025 11:46

Its absolutely the same.

No it isn’t. For a start one is legally rape. The other is not.

KimberleyClark · 26/04/2025 18:14

Lostcat · 26/04/2025 18:00

No it isn’t. For a start one is legally rape. The other is not.

It’s the same in principle. One party has deceived the other into believing they are taking precautions.

LudvillasCave · 26/04/2025 20:26

KimberleyClark · 26/04/2025 18:14

It’s the same in principle. One party has deceived the other into believing they are taking precautions.

It’s not just a matter of contraception though is it?

Removing a condom changes the physical act of sex and the nature of penetration and ejaculation inside another person. It’s a greater violation.

In terms of consent around potential pregnancy, yes they are similar.

hcee19 · 27/04/2025 00:13

I was so career driven, and my dh was too, we didn't want children. At age 42, out of the blue l found out l was pregnant with twins, we could not believe it, pregnant at 42, wow. We completely changed when we found out our happy news, and both my son and daughter are off to uni this September...We adore them and love them more than they could ever know....The best thing to happen to us....Getting pregnant in your forties, isn't impossible. I wish you the best in whatever decision you make....

GreenIsMyFavoriteColour · 01/05/2025 09:52

FWIW I don't beleive he ever committed to having children with the OP. A man with a partner in her mid 30s who wanted children would insist on a quick marriage and immediately off contraception. I suspect he was deeply reluctant and tbe OP heard what she wanted to hear.

Tricking this guy into fatherhood is totally unacceptable. What is reasonable is to tell him straight the the OP is no longer handling contraception, that is now his responsibility. Maybe he'll be careless, and if he is he can't grumble.

Why do people stay in relationships for years that aren't giving them what they want?

Brocsacoille · 01/05/2025 18:24

GreenIsMyFavoriteColour · 01/05/2025 09:52

FWIW I don't beleive he ever committed to having children with the OP. A man with a partner in her mid 30s who wanted children would insist on a quick marriage and immediately off contraception. I suspect he was deeply reluctant and tbe OP heard what she wanted to hear.

Tricking this guy into fatherhood is totally unacceptable. What is reasonable is to tell him straight the the OP is no longer handling contraception, that is now his responsibility. Maybe he'll be careless, and if he is he can't grumble.

Why do people stay in relationships for years that aren't giving them what they want?

Oh do fuck off. Men never feel the urgency that women do.

FWIW I think you’re being argumentative for the sake of being a dick.

GreenIsMyFavoriteColour · 01/05/2025 18:32

Brocsacoille · 01/05/2025 18:24

Oh do fuck off. Men never feel the urgency that women do.

FWIW I think you’re being argumentative for the sake of being a dick.

How is that different to what I said? You could pretty much summarise my words as "men never feel the urgency". Why would he have promised something he doesn't want any time soon?

More likely he kept it vague and the OP heard what she wanted to hear.

Bestfadeplans · 01/05/2025 20:17

Eugh hes proper dicked you about hasn't he. He needs to leave. And I wouldn't be using contraception for a guy like this. He can use condoms. **

Bestfadeplans · 01/05/2025 20:29

I was with a guy who said he wanted kids from the start, 2 years in and I was pregnant and miscarried, he said he didn't want to try again. Waited 2 years for him to change his mind, he said we could try again. Miscarried again and he seemed relieved. He didn't want them, or he didn't want them with me. Decided I wasn't going to wait around for him to change his mind. Left and don't regret it.

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