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He no longer wants kids

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Lizzielost · 23/04/2025 08:19

I’m a bit lost here so was hoping for some opinions on my current position please.

I’m 41 and have been with my partner, 39, for 8 years (1 engaged). We are currently renovating our first home together and I love him to bits. He is the only person who has ever completely understood me and he has helped me to grow so much while we’ve been together. I’ve also supported him and helped him to grow into someone who is more secure and aware of his own value. He is a kind person and thinks of me a lot.

From the very start, we both wanted children. We’ve had so many conversations about it that it was never really considered to be an issue, until last year. My partner has been through some difficult times over the last 2-3 years (including the loss of a parent and an increase in narcissistic behaviour from the remaining parent as well as significant work stress) and he has been in a very dark place at times. Now that we are finally in a position where we have some security to try for a child (as my age is already against me somewhat) he has decided that he no longer wants a child.

He didn’t tell me outright for some time. It’s been a topic of conversation for 16 months and he only admitted it at the end of last year. His response has always been either just a quiet grunt, ‘ok’ or no response at all with a look akin to a deer caught in the headlights. In the meantime I have to mix with his friends and all of their children and he doesn’t seem to see how difficult that is for me.

I had a coil which I was struggling with (pain, heavy periods etc) and he suggested getting it removed about 2.5 years ago and trying for a baby then. By the time I’d managed to have it removed 4 months later though, he’d changed his mind and I went on the pill. It doesn’t agree with me (moods, loss of desire etc) and this also seems to have caused some issues between us, even though there is little I can do to change that without coming off the pill.

We talk about it but I usually end up upset and, to try to pacify me, he says that we can try. I know he is only saying that and doesn’t mean it though so I ask him to speak about it the following day, when things have calmed, and he doesn’t. This has happened at least 10 times now and it is hurting.

If he had told me properly about his change of heart then I would not have bought the house with him. Really, I had little idea of how things had changed with him.

Over the last few days things seem to have come to a head. I just can’t cope with him almost playing games now and, after being upset a couple of nights ago and sleeping on the couch, I’ve told him that we can’t continue and that we need to split before I hate him for this. The situation is difficult, with the house renovation, and we’ll probably end up having to keep going with this for a bit until we can sell it and move on.

My head is telling me I’m overreacting and that I can’t leave him as he is everything to me. I just can’t keep being dragged down by this baby thing as it is taking over my
life and I’m beginning to hate him for it. It is, to me, a point of fundamental incompatibility and I feel betrayed. My mind is reeling - do we go for counselling to see if we can deal with this? Is it dead in the water now, even with the love on both sides? I can’t see up for down at the minute and I don’t know whether I’m talking myself round, only to be stuck again. I probably won’t go on to have children anyway if we split. I’m quite shy and finding someone new to trust in that way probably won’t be doable in time for me to try for a child. I just don’t know what to do at the moment. Has anyone got any thoughts on this please?

OP posts:
DrummingMousWife · 24/04/2025 20:12

Leave him. He likes the dance and being able to dangle carrots to pacify you, he likes the game playing. You’ll find someone else or can use a donor - either way is better than being led on until it’s too late.

gardenflowergirl · 24/04/2025 20:13

So why not just stop taking the pill and do it and don't tell him you've stopped. Women have been doing that for milenia. It may not be a popular view but women have been doing that forever.

sandyhappypeople · 24/04/2025 20:29

gardenflowergirl · 24/04/2025 20:13

So why not just stop taking the pill and do it and don't tell him you've stopped. Women have been doing that for milenia. It may not be a popular view but women have been doing that forever.

Children don't deserve to be born under those circumstances.

NO ONE tricking their partner into having a child is doing it for the child's sake, or even thinking about the impact that could have on a child, having to endure a lifetime with a parent that never wanted them, all they are thinking about is there own selfish needs.

There are ways to get pregnant and have a child with no consequences to the child.. so forcing someone to become a parent who doesn't want it is the lowest of the low.

It disgusts me that people suggest this to be honest.

ExpatMum41 · 24/04/2025 21:18

LadyTwattington · 23/04/2025 08:25

I am sorry to read this. He has the luxury of being able to change his mind again in 5 or 10 years; you don't. If having children is a deal-breaker, then the deal is broken.

In your situation, at your age, I would split and go for single parenthood via donor sperm - but then I always knew very firmly that I definitely wanted children, and time is not on your side.

This. My friend did this using Scandinavian sperm. She and her little viking are very happy and living a wonderful life, just the two of them.

Sadly, it sounds like your boyfriend has been stringing you along. It's easy to pretend you want children when your partner has agreed that now isn't the right time, especially if the two of you are already approaching middle age and there's a good chance her fertility will fall off a cliff before she realises.

WhiteJasmin · 24/04/2025 21:28

I think if he loves you OP he would know how important having a child is to you and how unwell you are with contraception to do what's best for you (i.e. discuss honestly and taking responsibility of contraception). So he is a selfish person and doesn't love you the way you should be loved.

Even if you are ok with going with what he wants now to be childless, he has the luxury to change his mind 5 years later and you will definitely be out of the picture for having kids with him. He can move on and have kids with someone else and you can't.

notsureyetcertain · 24/04/2025 21:37

It doesn’t sound like he treats you well. It would be the wrong choice to have a child with him. I’d walk away now.

Peaches1407 · 24/04/2025 21:41

I would split ASAP. Leave the house as is mid reno and sell. But before all that, go to a fertility clinic and freeze your eggs if they are okay. Otherwise, start using donor sperm. Im suggesting this because you really want a baby.

carcassonne1 · 24/04/2025 21:49

It's so sad and I find it so strange. If you both wanted to have children why did you only talk about this and not actually had kids years ago (or even got married)? I think you've been led by the nose. If I was 33 and childless, I would be quite honest with my partner that I want a family within next 2 years. There is only one life and a woman has an 'expiry date' regarding kids. That should have been on your mind all these years and it would have spared you the disappointment and tears right now if you had been more decisive and blunt with your partner.

LudvillasCave · 24/04/2025 22:21

MaddestGranny · 24/04/2025 20:08

Dear OP, I feel so sorry for you. There's been some good advice on here, most of which, basically, says put yourself first - NOW.

With which I'd agree. You. First. Now.
Counselling may be a good idea to help you sort yourself out, hold your hand through difficult decisions, walk alongside you. But the time is NOW.
Meanwhile, I'm thinking of two women I know well.

One: was in relationship with DP for +15yrs, while DP dickered around whether he did/didn't want a child, then dumped her and immediately embarked on new relationships (yes plural) with "younger models". She's nearing 50 now.
Two: in early/mid 30s, fell madly/deeply in love with fab bloke but/and, tho' scared of losing him, said: I want a child & it's a deal-breaker, say now, or I'm off. He said OK fine. It entailed IVF, which worked. Now v happy family.
Three: Oh, her: well, she, realising that her DP wasn't so much D as DBFT, took drastic action and has never regretted it.

Good luck, OP.

What’s DBFT 👀

Ottersmith · 24/04/2025 23:21

If you want kids, why are you on the pill? Tell him you are coming off the pill and if he doesn't want kids he can wear a condom. Don't go on the pill at 41 if you want kids. Sounds like you dragged your feet on this for a time as well. Its a bit of a late age to be vague with each other about this. Get off the pill though!

Laurmolonlabe · 24/04/2025 23:36

This all sounds really hurtful- but you've answered your own question really- even if you started trying for a baby now the balance of probability is that it wouldn't happen- will leaving him really improve this situation?
At 41 you are not going to find someone else , fall in love get to the moving in stage and have the baby conversation before it is impossible for you to conceive.
You say you have always wanted children, but if you were really serious about it you would have to have started at least trying to conceive by now.
having conversations about children as a concept is very different to actually trying.
You are mourning for the future you now have to accept is very unlikely to happen, but at 41 it has been a diminishing possibility for years , so the only thing that is new is that you have had to recognise you have probably left it too late- the fact your partner is not more ambivalent than he was lets you off the hook, but doesn't change anything.
The long and short is if trying for a child is the most important thing to you you should do it, right now and hope he comes onside, and if he doesn't then go it alone. However I feel from what you have said that a child is just one element in an imagined ideal future, which has many more threads in it- your relationship with your partner, your home, renovating it together. Do you still love your partner? Or is the child thing a dealbreaker, as you suggest at one point?

GabriellaFaith · 25/04/2025 00:48

Given your age and conception takes time, I think if you really want kids you need to look into adopting, and I would suggest you speak to him about this. On the expectation he says no, don't keep delaying as you alluded to. Having kids is hard work and you want some youth on your side and this isn't going to be a quick win. Sorry to be blunt.

Steph4ne · 25/04/2025 03:31

My husband and partner of 15 years (married for 5 of those years) always said to me “I never wanted children, but with you I have”, that if he was single or with anyone else he wouldn’t have had children, but with me he did. Well how lovely, right? Shows how much he loves me, right?
No
Turns out, he was stringing me along; because he kept saying he wasn’t ready, or we’d try, but trying consisted of once a month.
I have PCOS and was obese with high blood pressure, I’ve had a lot of medical issues in the past including kidney failure and been on high dose steroids. I was running out of time to have children, so… I had a gastric bypass to help me get pregnant.
once I was able to start trying (after 1 year post op), I asked my husband if he was ready and wanted this, and he said yes.
That month we tried more than ever, once every couple/few days.
I got pregnant straight away.
I told him, when my period was late and my boobs felt “different”. I also said I would make a GP appointment anyway to get on the list for IVF in case.
anyway… when I got that positive pregnancy test, he freaked out and was upset. I asked him if he wanted me to terminate and he just said “I couldn’t ask you to do that”. I asked if there was someone else and he said “no”.
Fast forward to my first scan, the day before he’d been horrible to me, shouting and swearing. I still asked him to come to the scan if he wanted to. He was off with me.
That week, he was either supportive or cold.
4 days after that scan, where my heart filled with joy, he told me he didn’t love me as his wife anymore and was in love with and couldn’t live without some colleague I’d never heard of. He’d been “intimate” with her too.

Moral of the story in your situation. If you got pregnant, and he left, would you be ok with that? If he did the same to you?

If he’s saying he doesn’t want kids now and you got pregnant do you think he would stick around? Even if you don’t have kids…. Will it still work? Would you resent him?

I’m sorry to say, he’s led you on this whole time, for his own satisfaction and needs. He’s selfish and knew you wanted children, but wanted you so didn’t let you go to find someone who wanted the same.

I’m now trapped having to see the man I loved, who I promised everything to, who I trusted, who betrayed me and abandoned us when we needed him the most. Trapped forever. In pain every time I have to see him to bring him his daughter whom he seems to love. I think he WANTS to be a part time, token gesture dad.

Could you be happy living like that?

I’d go through this 1000x to have my beautiful daughter, but I wouldn’t wish this hell on anyone else.

Inthetyreshop · 25/04/2025 03:38

He could change his mind once you have a baby or get pregnant, communication is key here

CameltoeParkerBowles · 25/04/2025 07:26

TheHerboriste · 23/04/2025 08:27

No. Don’t produce a child with an unwilling father. That’s morally reprehensible and unfair to the new human being.

Sometimes life doesn’t work out the way we wanted.

The OP has had all sorts or problems with hormonal contraception. Why should she continue to use it when the relationship is effectively over? If they still want to have sex with each other, he can wear a condom.

CameltoeParkerBowles · 25/04/2025 07:30

Steph4ne · 25/04/2025 03:31

My husband and partner of 15 years (married for 5 of those years) always said to me “I never wanted children, but with you I have”, that if he was single or with anyone else he wouldn’t have had children, but with me he did. Well how lovely, right? Shows how much he loves me, right?
No
Turns out, he was stringing me along; because he kept saying he wasn’t ready, or we’d try, but trying consisted of once a month.
I have PCOS and was obese with high blood pressure, I’ve had a lot of medical issues in the past including kidney failure and been on high dose steroids. I was running out of time to have children, so… I had a gastric bypass to help me get pregnant.
once I was able to start trying (after 1 year post op), I asked my husband if he was ready and wanted this, and he said yes.
That month we tried more than ever, once every couple/few days.
I got pregnant straight away.
I told him, when my period was late and my boobs felt “different”. I also said I would make a GP appointment anyway to get on the list for IVF in case.
anyway… when I got that positive pregnancy test, he freaked out and was upset. I asked him if he wanted me to terminate and he just said “I couldn’t ask you to do that”. I asked if there was someone else and he said “no”.
Fast forward to my first scan, the day before he’d been horrible to me, shouting and swearing. I still asked him to come to the scan if he wanted to. He was off with me.
That week, he was either supportive or cold.
4 days after that scan, where my heart filled with joy, he told me he didn’t love me as his wife anymore and was in love with and couldn’t live without some colleague I’d never heard of. He’d been “intimate” with her too.

Moral of the story in your situation. If you got pregnant, and he left, would you be ok with that? If he did the same to you?

If he’s saying he doesn’t want kids now and you got pregnant do you think he would stick around? Even if you don’t have kids…. Will it still work? Would you resent him?

I’m sorry to say, he’s led you on this whole time, for his own satisfaction and needs. He’s selfish and knew you wanted children, but wanted you so didn’t let you go to find someone who wanted the same.

I’m now trapped having to see the man I loved, who I promised everything to, who I trusted, who betrayed me and abandoned us when we needed him the most. Trapped forever. In pain every time I have to see him to bring him his daughter whom he seems to love. I think he WANTS to be a part time, token gesture dad.

Could you be happy living like that?

I’d go through this 1000x to have my beautiful daughter, but I wouldn’t wish this hell on anyone else.

That is so awful. What a dick. But, as you say, you have your lovely daughter.

Steph4ne · 25/04/2025 08:10

CameltoeParkerBowles · 25/04/2025 07:30

That is so awful. What a dick. But, as you say, you have your lovely daughter.

Thank you for your reply, yes, it’s been hard seeing the person I thought I knew for so long become someone so horrible, but she is my shining light 💜

Noononoo · 25/04/2025 08:59

Come off the pill, see if you get pregnant, if you do (if you’re Lucky ) you can bet your bottom dollar he’ll be too. This is so common. I never asked my husband if I could get pregnant! He won’t leave you because you are pregnant he is just wary of taking responsibility, If he did then leave you or act like an arsehole.. then he’s not worth your love. Stop pissing around and stop taking the pill if you want a baby. There are no guarantees. No money backs. its a massive leap. You’re both scared which is fine. Don’t have children. You want a baby .. try … good luck …it’s on you not him. Don’t look to him for permission. Of course it’s not your ideal. Few things are. Be brave.

KimberleyClark · 25/04/2025 09:10

Noononoo · 25/04/2025 08:59

Come off the pill, see if you get pregnant, if you do (if you’re Lucky ) you can bet your bottom dollar he’ll be too. This is so common. I never asked my husband if I could get pregnant! He won’t leave you because you are pregnant he is just wary of taking responsibility, If he did then leave you or act like an arsehole.. then he’s not worth your love. Stop pissing around and stop taking the pill if you want a baby. There are no guarantees. No money backs. its a massive leap. You’re both scared which is fine. Don’t have children. You want a baby .. try … good luck …it’s on you not him. Don’t look to him for permission. Of course it’s not your ideal. Few things are. Be brave.

Terrible advice. Like a man saying to another man “look mate, just slip your condom off. All women want babies deep down and once she actually gets pregnant she’ll be over the moon”.

Alip1965 · 25/04/2025 09:13

2 options ... 1 .. get pregnant and see what he says. If he really doesn't want the child then he can leave.

2.. you accept you won't have children and get on with your life as it is.

Pentimenti · 25/04/2025 09:21

KimberleyClark · 25/04/2025 09:10

Terrible advice. Like a man saying to another man “look mate, just slip your condom off. All women want babies deep down and once she actually gets pregnant she’ll be over the moon”.

Yes, exactly. It’s astonishingly irresponsible advice.

Withoutfearorfavour · 25/04/2025 10:07

Alip1965 · 25/04/2025 09:13

2 options ... 1 .. get pregnant and see what he says. If he really doesn't want the child then he can leave.

2.. you accept you won't have children and get on with your life as it is.

He can just leave can he and she’ll absolve him of all financial responsibility and he’ll just forget that he has a child wandering around the planet. Right

XelaM · 25/04/2025 11:31

Withoutfearorfavour · 25/04/2025 10:07

He can just leave can he and she’ll absolve him of all financial responsibility and he’ll just forget that he has a child wandering around the planet. Right

I mean my ex-husband did just that 😂 as do many many men!

Withoutfearorfavour · 25/04/2025 12:00

XelaM · 25/04/2025 11:31

I mean my ex-husband did just that 😂 as do many many men!

There’s nothing funny about it is there ?

Alip1965 · 25/04/2025 12:03

Withoutfearorfavour · 25/04/2025 10:07

He can just leave can he and she’ll absolve him of all financial responsibility and he’ll just forget that he has a child wandering around the planet. Right

Yep so long as she has what she wants. Let him go.

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