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He no longer wants kids

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Lizzielost · 23/04/2025 08:19

I’m a bit lost here so was hoping for some opinions on my current position please.

I’m 41 and have been with my partner, 39, for 8 years (1 engaged). We are currently renovating our first home together and I love him to bits. He is the only person who has ever completely understood me and he has helped me to grow so much while we’ve been together. I’ve also supported him and helped him to grow into someone who is more secure and aware of his own value. He is a kind person and thinks of me a lot.

From the very start, we both wanted children. We’ve had so many conversations about it that it was never really considered to be an issue, until last year. My partner has been through some difficult times over the last 2-3 years (including the loss of a parent and an increase in narcissistic behaviour from the remaining parent as well as significant work stress) and he has been in a very dark place at times. Now that we are finally in a position where we have some security to try for a child (as my age is already against me somewhat) he has decided that he no longer wants a child.

He didn’t tell me outright for some time. It’s been a topic of conversation for 16 months and he only admitted it at the end of last year. His response has always been either just a quiet grunt, ‘ok’ or no response at all with a look akin to a deer caught in the headlights. In the meantime I have to mix with his friends and all of their children and he doesn’t seem to see how difficult that is for me.

I had a coil which I was struggling with (pain, heavy periods etc) and he suggested getting it removed about 2.5 years ago and trying for a baby then. By the time I’d managed to have it removed 4 months later though, he’d changed his mind and I went on the pill. It doesn’t agree with me (moods, loss of desire etc) and this also seems to have caused some issues between us, even though there is little I can do to change that without coming off the pill.

We talk about it but I usually end up upset and, to try to pacify me, he says that we can try. I know he is only saying that and doesn’t mean it though so I ask him to speak about it the following day, when things have calmed, and he doesn’t. This has happened at least 10 times now and it is hurting.

If he had told me properly about his change of heart then I would not have bought the house with him. Really, I had little idea of how things had changed with him.

Over the last few days things seem to have come to a head. I just can’t cope with him almost playing games now and, after being upset a couple of nights ago and sleeping on the couch, I’ve told him that we can’t continue and that we need to split before I hate him for this. The situation is difficult, with the house renovation, and we’ll probably end up having to keep going with this for a bit until we can sell it and move on.

My head is telling me I’m overreacting and that I can’t leave him as he is everything to me. I just can’t keep being dragged down by this baby thing as it is taking over my
life and I’m beginning to hate him for it. It is, to me, a point of fundamental incompatibility and I feel betrayed. My mind is reeling - do we go for counselling to see if we can deal with this? Is it dead in the water now, even with the love on both sides? I can’t see up for down at the minute and I don’t know whether I’m talking myself round, only to be stuck again. I probably won’t go on to have children anyway if we split. I’m quite shy and finding someone new to trust in that way probably won’t be doable in time for me to try for a child. I just don’t know what to do at the moment. Has anyone got any thoughts on this please?

OP posts:
EllieEllie25 · 23/04/2025 16:29

I’m sorry OP but you’ve probably left it too late either with or without him. Since you’ve been together 8 years, the time for these very serious ultimatum now or never conversations was 3 or 4 years ago at the latest. That makes me wonder do you really want kids yourself, or if this is just a last ditch panic for you. Normally I really judge the man in these situations for stringing you along and wasting your fertile years, but you colluded in this too. Maybe joint and individual counselling would be worth it to help you work out if the relationship can be salvaged and if you can both be happy without children.

bibliotek · 23/04/2025 16:33

Men just annoy me

MrsAga · 23/04/2025 16:34

I think he’s either Future faked you (and knew he didn’t want children) or he’s a bit wet & doesn’t know what he wants or he’s scared to agree and not be a good dad.

You need to decide (very soon) if you’d be prepared to be a single parent. If you have enough support round you to do that, then start the process of stopping birth control & get checked to see if you have viable eggs left. Tell him you are doing this & birth control is his responsibility. If you have no viable eggs left then you decide if you can stay with him knowing you missed your chance with his dithering or if you can accept it wasn’t meant to be. If you do have eggs, then give him the choice of being the father or leaving & you can go down sperm donation route.
It’s still your choice, even if he wants no part in it. Just make sure you warn him that you are stopping birth control. Don’t try to trick him into it as that won’t end well for anyone.
Good luck whatever you decide.

bibliotek · 23/04/2025 16:35

I’m really sorry OP.
This is a complete disrespect of your time and commitment. You have a brief window of opportunity now to either go it alone if you want a bio kid or stay with someone who does not respect your wants/needs/time. I’m really sorry this happened. It’s just not fair on you.

PassingStranger · 23/04/2025 16:36

I don't blame him.
Why do you need to have a child.
Bloody stressful today.

hotpotlover · 23/04/2025 16:43

bibliotek · 23/04/2025 16:33

Men just annoy me

You're not the only one!

Solacesolipse · 23/04/2025 16:45

Lizzielost · 23/04/2025 14:17

Thanks. I would never just come off the pill without saying so.

I am autistic but I hold down a professional (and high pressure) job. I function well but was definitely a late bloomer in terms of relationships, which is part of the issue and one of the things I regret in life. I grew up in a family with children with additional needs (my twin sister specifically) so I have no issues with that. I am capable of caring for a child on my own. I don’t want to be hated or resented any more than I want to hate or resent. I have a good support network around me if I were to need it. I don’t want to go as far as going through the heartache of IVF though (and, as others have said, the quality of the eggs diminishes. I’m clued up on all of this and am not kidding myself on that score). I won’t adopt on my own, even with family around me.

There is a massive difference between being autistic and handling a tough job and adding solo parenting of a child into the mix.

PeachyCalm · 23/04/2025 17:01

Clockface8 · 23/04/2025 08:27

If he had told me properly about his change of heart then I would not have bought the house with him.

he told you explicitly 2.5 years ago

No he didn’t! 2.5 years ago he said the exact opposite and was his suggestion to try for a baby!

5dollah · 23/04/2025 17:02

At 41 it might be too late anyway.

Askingforafriendtoday · 23/04/2025 17:13

Maray1967 · 23/04/2025 08:23

He has seriously dicked around here, hasn’t he? My response would be clear: I would be coming off contraception and telling him that I want a child. If he doesn’t want one he needs to leave.

What he is doing is the very antithesis of kind.

This

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 23/04/2025 17:15

Lizzielost · 23/04/2025 14:17

Thanks. I would never just come off the pill without saying so.

I am autistic but I hold down a professional (and high pressure) job. I function well but was definitely a late bloomer in terms of relationships, which is part of the issue and one of the things I regret in life. I grew up in a family with children with additional needs (my twin sister specifically) so I have no issues with that. I am capable of caring for a child on my own. I don’t want to be hated or resented any more than I want to hate or resent. I have a good support network around me if I were to need it. I don’t want to go as far as going through the heartache of IVF though (and, as others have said, the quality of the eggs diminishes. I’m clued up on all of this and am not kidding myself on that score). I won’t adopt on my own, even with family around me.

Realistically, OP, IVF using donor sperm is your best chance of having a child.

Don't you want to at least give it a go?

I wouldn't give this selfish man another second of your life. He's already robbed you of too much.

GonzoParker · 23/04/2025 17:20

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 23/04/2025 17:15

Realistically, OP, IVF using donor sperm is your best chance of having a child.

Don't you want to at least give it a go?

I wouldn't give this selfish man another second of your life. He's already robbed you of too much.

I mean this kindly but
How is that in the best interests of future child ? Does that future child not deserve a dad

getting doner sperm shouldn’t really be treated like ordering a pizza without really thinking what’s best for the future child

Delphinium20 · 23/04/2025 17:21

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LudvillasCave · 23/04/2025 17:24

GonzoParker · 23/04/2025 17:20

I mean this kindly but
How is that in the best interests of future child ? Does that future child not deserve a dad

getting doner sperm shouldn’t really be treated like ordering a pizza without really thinking what’s best for the future child

People are allowed to use donor sperm if they want to. This is an option the OP has. It’s something for her to consider on her own time.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 23/04/2025 17:26

LudvillasCave · 23/04/2025 17:24

People are allowed to use donor sperm if they want to. This is an option the OP has. It’s something for her to consider on her own time.

This.

LudvillasCave · 23/04/2025 17:27

EllieEllie25 · 23/04/2025 16:29

I’m sorry OP but you’ve probably left it too late either with or without him. Since you’ve been together 8 years, the time for these very serious ultimatum now or never conversations was 3 or 4 years ago at the latest. That makes me wonder do you really want kids yourself, or if this is just a last ditch panic for you. Normally I really judge the man in these situations for stringing you along and wasting your fertile years, but you colluded in this too. Maybe joint and individual counselling would be worth it to help you work out if the relationship can be salvaged and if you can both be happy without children.

41 is not too late, but it is about half past the 11th hour

HomeTheatreSystem · 23/04/2025 17:28

I'd also tell him that as of now he needs to take responsibility for his own fertility so condoms, vasectomy or abstention.

Lizzielost · 23/04/2025 17:32

Thank you everyone

OP posts:
Terrapinn · 23/04/2025 17:50

Lizzielost · 23/04/2025 14:17

Thanks. I would never just come off the pill without saying so.

I am autistic but I hold down a professional (and high pressure) job. I function well but was definitely a late bloomer in terms of relationships, which is part of the issue and one of the things I regret in life. I grew up in a family with children with additional needs (my twin sister specifically) so I have no issues with that. I am capable of caring for a child on my own. I don’t want to be hated or resented any more than I want to hate or resent. I have a good support network around me if I were to need it. I don’t want to go as far as going through the heartache of IVF though (and, as others have said, the quality of the eggs diminishes. I’m clued up on all of this and am not kidding myself on that score). I won’t adopt on my own, even with family around me.

Would you do donor sperm or donor egg on your own?

LudvillasCave · 23/04/2025 17:52

Lizzielost · 23/04/2025 17:32

Thank you everyone

Good luck OP x

femfemlicious · 23/04/2025 18:00

If you really really want a child then use a sperm bank

Wakemeupbe4yougogo · 23/04/2025 18:01

I would find yourself someone to talk this through with in real life, OP, not becoming a mother is a huge package to unwrap and make peace with if you're able to. Whether that's a good friend or a counsellor. And I would separate that completely from your relationship and what to do about it. I think that'll become clearer as you start to make your own journey forwards. I'm so sorry that you're where you are Flowers

chaosmaker · 23/04/2025 18:08

@Lizzielost I'd tell him I'm coming off contraception and if he doesn't want kids then he needs to get snipped. Is the fantasy of kids more important that your long relationship?

Pros and cons need weighing up.

Superhansrantowindsor · 23/04/2025 18:10

Sorry Op. It’s too late.
Dont have a baby with a man who really doesn’t want one. He will resent you - the child will notice this. It’s not fair on anyone.
If you stay with him you will resent that he didn’t want children. There will also be trust issues.
If you leave to try and find someone who does want a child or use donor sperm then chances of this working are very slim.
I think you need to either stay with him and get counselling or leave and get counselling. Either way support is an absolute must. I really do think your chance for a baby has gone sadly.

fortniteplaya · 23/04/2025 18:13

Chiseltip · 23/04/2025 08:33

At 41 your chances of getting pregnant and carrying a healthy baby to term are very low (despite what people say on here). It's likely already too late for you because if you split up, it will take a number of years for you to meet someone else and get into a position where kids are going to be up for discussion. By then it will be too late for you to get pregnant.

I'd give up on the baby, that ship has sailed.

Do you want to continue the relationship?

What rubbish! I had ny 4th at age 42, my best mate had her 1st at 41 abd 2nd at 43, and another close friend had her last age 50 by IVF.
Listen , blokes come and go but your child is your family always. If you feel the urge then go for it.

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